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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2009, 08:24:48 PM »

It's not totally on the subject, but we traveled to Uganda in the midst of Ebola outbreak 8 years ago. I was 7months pregnant and planning on having the baby there. The outbreak was a big thing on the news, but contacting the mission (we had to decide whether to cancel the trip for at least 4 months) we thought it was overreacted to. True, people died from it (I think it was more serious than a flu), communications with the town of outbreak was cut off and we were advised not to use public transportation. All that to say media often blows things out of proportion to sell their story.
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Mad journalism disease--more contagious than swine flu?

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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 10:16:51 PM »

Well. the swine flu... did keep us busy in Mexico. since all parks, schools, malls, restaurants, churches, and clubs were closed... it was hard to take the kids anywhere. We were "locked up" for two weeks...
Though I really wasn't. Being a nutritionist, with both my parents medical doctors... did not care much for that. My parents went to the beach.. haha... so hygienic.
My sister and I became creative with all the kids at home with nowhere to go, swimming pool, sandbox, watercoloring, playdoh, experiments, crafts, active games etc...

At least we had mandatory vacations


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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2009, 06:49:34 AM »

update-in my country 32 death,including baby-1year 4 month old,kid-5 years old(immediately die after fever at night) 

this is really a nightmare!! 

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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2009, 04:18:14 PM »

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/08/11/Swine-Flu-is-NOT-the-Problem---It-is-the-Vaccine-that-May-Harm-or-Kill-You.aspx

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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2009, 03:37:28 AM »

thanks so much skylark,for this site,I have heard about this before,some expert people told me that the disease is not actually the problem,but its that the way we protect our body and how to handle it...but my concern is our babies..maybe we adult can take it,but the they can't..
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well this is really good info,I'm totally agree about the vaccine.thanks again.

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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2009, 11:50:26 AM »

This is a summary by Dr. Mercola of a recent article that can be found on LewRockwell.com.  The below was copied and pasted from mercola.com.  Please inform yourself before lining yourself and your kids up for this vaccine.

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This year it is more important that you protect your children and loved ones from the flu vaccines than influenza itself. This article on Lew Rockwell discusses how:

1. The swine flu is simply another flu. It is not unusually deadly.

2. This is the first time both seasonal and pandemic flu vaccines will be administered. Both seasonal flu and swine flu vaccines will require two inoculations. This is because single inoculations have failed to produce sufficient antibodies. This is an admission that prior flu vaccines were virtually useless. Can you trust them this time?

3. Adjuvants are added to vaccines to boost production of antibodies but may trigger autoimmune reactions. Some adjuvants are mercury (thimerosal), aluminum and squalene. Why would you sign a consent form for your children to be injected with mercury, which is even more brain-toxic than lead?

4. This is the first year mock vaccines have been used to gain FDA approval. The vaccines that have been tested are not the same vaccines your children will be given.

5. Over-vaccination is a common practice now in America. American children are subjected to 29 vaccines by the age of two. Meanwhile, veterinarians have backed off of repeat vaccination in dogs because of observed side effects.

6. Modern medicine has no explanation for autism, despite its continued rise in prevalence. Yet autism is not reported among Amish children who go unvaccinated.

7. Researchers are warning that over-use of the flu vaccine and anti-flu drugs like Tamiflu and Relenza can apply genetic pressure on flu viruses and then they are more likely to mutate into a more deadly strain.

8. Most seasonal influenza A (H1N1) virus strains tested from the United States and other countries are now resistant to Tamiflu (oseltamivir). Tamiflu has become a nearly worthless drug against seasonal flu.

9. Public health officials are irresponsible in their omission of any ways to strengthen immunity against the flu. No options outside of problematic vaccines and anti-flu drugs are offered, despite the fact there is strong evidence that vitamins C and D activate the immune system and the trace mineral selenium prevents the worst form of the disease.
For even more reasons, please review the full article on LewRockwell.com.

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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2009, 05:17:08 PM »

Thanks for the post I was about to post this article as well!

here it is the video and direct link to the article for everyone to see.

karma to you ! 


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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/E1z7KSEnyxw&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/E1z7KSEnyxw&rel=1</a>



http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/06/Why-You-Should-NOT-Vaccinate-Your-Children-Against-the-Flu-This-Season.aspx



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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2009, 06:09:09 PM »

So sorry for the lose of family. We here have several family members that has tested positive, one is to far to give the vaccine to, and yes it is a small child. A crew of my family (6) has tested positive after eating resteraunt food. They all ate the same thing, 1 hour later all were sick, next day tested positive. Be careful and pray. We have decided to stay in, dad is the only one that goes out to get what we need and to go to work, plus we home school. We do not allow people in our home without using sanitizer. Touching my chilldren is a no, along with other guidelines if you enter my home or my vehicle.
As far as vaccines go well I would rather not allow my children to recieve them but do to circumstances we don't have a choice. Also I don't know if your school systems do this but ours takes our children during school to the doctor or dentist with out the parents consent and recieves medical attention. The parents are not even called to inform the parents of this visit. They find out when the child returns home. Parents complain to me all the time, so that's why they homeschool. I live in the US.

My mom said she was going to get a flu vaccination I informed her not to. We do not like recieving vaccinations for we ourselves have seen serious reactions when a child has been given the vaccines to many together at one time. It is to scary to even mention on here. One minute your child is fine the next hour your child is different.

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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2009, 10:42:13 PM »

If you are concerned about the school issue and vaccinations, contact the following attorney to discuss your options.  Not vaccinating should not prevent your child from attending any school of your choosing.  If you decide to have this attorney draft you a letter to use with schools, the fee for preparing it is very reasonable.  The fee includes ongoing consultation so that if a school has a problem with your letter, they are to contact the attorney and not you.  He is located in New York but can help with any state.

Charles C. Nicholas, Chesney & Murphy, LLP, 2305 Grand Ave., Baldwin, NY 11510, (516) 378-1700, fax (516) 378-7633,  email[a]chesneymurphy.com

Mother of Faith, the situation you describe with children receiving medical treatments at school without parents' consent cannot possibly be legal!  Most schools will not dispense so much as an aspirin because of the legal and liability ramifications.

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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2009, 12:43:21 AM »

Thanks for the info. The reason that they do this is because the parents or legal guardian have signed up for special assitance program so therefore the assistance program does this, so I guess who ever signed the application gave their permission even so they should still call before recieving treatment but they haven't and the parents where unaware of this special service that this assistance program was giving. The child had a fever so they sent the child to the doctor, the child come home with a statement from the doctor, a school excuse. The parent was astonished and so was I. Maybe it is do to the swine flu? Who knows. I never would have thought that they would do this but if the school has a policy stating this then ?

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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2009, 01:04:57 PM »

Okay, that makes more sense.  It must be somewhere in the fine print of the program that parents don't have to be notified prior to the child receiving medical attention.  That's pretty bad if it's not made very obvious on the form, though.

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« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2009, 03:50:26 PM »

I plan on investigating it more though. It must be in there somewhere written.

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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2009, 12:04:28 PM »

Latest article from Dr. Mercola on the swine flu.  I found it to be a Great eye opening read.  To long to attach, so I copied and pasted web site link.


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/03/What-We-Have-Learned-About-the-Great-Swine-Flu-Pandemic.aspx

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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2009, 02:22:59 PM »

Dear Everyone,

Please find below some practical information that I received in an email from a friend.

- Ayesha

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Prevent Swine Flu - Good Simple Advice
               

(Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS,DRM,DNB (Intensive Care and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital, Bombay Hospital, Saifee Hospital, Tata Memorial etc. Presently, he is heading the Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W).
             
Preventing Swine Flu:  The only portals of entry are the nostrils, ears and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.
     
While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock up on N95 or Tamiflu):

     

      1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).
           

      2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all20temptations to touch any part of face or put your fingers in your mouth.
           

      3. Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you prefer it to salt water). H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.

         

     4. Similar to 3 above, clean your ears out with drops of hydrogen peroxide; clean nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (Neti Pot is a very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), although it is easy to do once you get used to it...but blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.  (Neti pots and sinus rinse kits are available at the drug store, or online, and are relatively inexpensive. under $15. 
           

     5. Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). If you supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc, or you can take extra zinc, to boost absorption.

                     
     6. Drink as much of warm liquids, such as tea, as you can. Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. It washes off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.
             



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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2009, 03:42:26 PM »

Well, our local media has just been over the top about their reporting.  Yesterday, on the radio the news caster was saying something like "Please, don't camp outside of the clinics.  There will be enough vaccine for all of the high priority groups."  Camp outside of clinics???  C'mon now, it's like freezing at night, who would even think to do that. I don't like the level of manipulation in the reporting, making people think they should be desperate for the shot and that everyone else is desperate and only the lucky ones that get up early in the morning will get it.  My son doesn't get shots, I used to get them but I don't anymore, my husband doesn't really get sick so he doesn't bother.

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