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« Reply #75 on: March 15, 2013, 07:00:15 AM »

Lol, Poker Dad, you are awesome.

And Chris is right about the magicians.  I'm feeling a little dumb about my comment that they were using midbrain activation skills now.  I gathered that they aren't from this thread:  http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=1486&forum=15.  I even found a book you can buy to learn how it's done (and I'm seriously considering it, I wanted to be a magician when I was younger.).  http://www.martinbreese.com/bookpages/blindfold.htm

Cokers4life is right though, questioning how believable the actual blindfold-reading is not the real point, although it would be awesome.  We aren't after a parlor trick, we want educational and life benefits.  Frankly I'm a lot more interested in helping my children achieve skills like in the following video than in reading a book blindfolded.  Their are many testimonials on the internet who have photo-reading skills, and I really want that for my family.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/joUZpw93eqE&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/joUZpw93eqE&rel=1</a>

I think it's time to play "What do we know".  (any fellow square one tv fans out there?  Wink)

We know that many reptiles have a parietal eye, and depending on the species, that eye is quite capable of seeing.
We know that people have the pineal gland associated with the third eye of reptiles, but lack the parietal organ.
We know that there are many species of animals sensitive to electric and or magnetic fields, such as migratory animals, or bees. (http://eartheasy.com/blog/2013/03/bees-guided-by-flowers-electric-fields/)
We know (I'm assuming, because we are on this forum) that tiny children have a much larger capacity for learning than society gives them credit for.
We know that midbrain activation centers are fairly new and are growing in popularity in Asia.  They are popping up everywhere, almost like an informational gold rush.  We know that many of these activation centers focus on 2-day workshops, and that they involve listening to alpha-wave music, brain gym exercises, and a variety of blindfolded activities including color sorting, reading, puzzles, and physical activities such as catching and throwing balls, navigating obstacle courses, and riding bicycles.
We know that white people, generally speaking, are not very interested in midbrain activation.
We know that some people cheat/peak.

For myself, I'm very skeptical that all of the children in these videos are cheating.  For one, I know that all children instinctively tilt their head up when they are blindfolded even if the blindfold is secure.  Think of the last time you did a pinata.  It takes seasoned magicians a lot of practice, even years, to perfect and pull off a blindfold act.  Most kids aren't very good at magic tricks, so to see a room full of children doing "blindfold tricks" on their first or second day of practice seems doubtful to me.  I also doubt that these learning centers would be so successful if they weren't producing results.  I'm still pursuing it!

I also know that since I started doing the elements that I understand, I have had some real experiences.  My kids have been more creative.  My 3 and 5 year-old have started writing mostly on their own.  Granted, I've been working with them on this with a few other resources, but I also think that it is also related to the midbrain-ish stuff, especially brain gym for my son.  So if blindfolded activities and ESP scare you, that's totally fine, there are still some elements that may benefit you and your kids.  I'm excited about midbrain stuff in that it is stuff that I the mommy can do for ME.  It's too late for me to change my past and become an early reader, but it isn't too late for me to develop a photographic memory or speed-reading abilities.

I also have to say that something different is happening in my brain, or at least I'm more aware of it.  I think photo eye-play has a lot to do with it.  I previously mentioned the image of my sheets, as well as my son's moving arm.  For the religious people out there that are squeamish about midbrain activation, I will briefly say that I am a Christian, more specifically LDS (Mormon).  I have had many experiences which we call "feeling the spirit", or in other words, the beautiful, peaceful feeling of God's presence.  I have also been in the presence of evil spirits that have accompanied specific people.  As a child I was especially sensitive to that.  I had an uncle that was involved with the wrong crowd and whenever he approached the home I would begin to cry uncontrollably.  When he walked in the front door I would freak out and run away from him.  So I like to think that I recognize both evil and good spirits, and I wouldn't associate the stuff happening in my head with either of them.  I have had an "aha" moment from this thread, that intuition is not the same as "feeling the spirit".  My whole life I have thought they were, but I now think that intuition is perhaps more related to an actual skill.  It's not the same thing as communicating with God.  But that's my own conclusion and we few of us are on the same religious journey.  It's hard to look into midbrain activation without questioning how it fits within your own religious and philosophical beliefs.  I would be open to talking more about the religious aspects of midbrain in private messages if anyone is interested.  But back to the non-spiritual phenomena, something is happening in my brain related to images in my eyes.  I now have greater power in my dreams, so that's pretty cool.  As I go to sleep I've become more aware how my brain is sorting through the images of the day.  I've been awake during rapid eye movement moments and "seen" several image outlines rapidly flash in the screen of my mind.  That's not something they advertise at these midbrain schools, but it is something new to me, and I'm optimistic that it's beneficial.  We'll see.

There's something to all of this, I just haven't been able to pin it down yet.  Maybe my kids won't read blindfolded, and that's okay.  Everybody's educational journey is different.  So far, whatever it is, I like it.

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« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2013, 06:16:23 PM »

1) TMT - perhaps you might want to move the other relevant threads here: Midbrain activation home study program and Testers wanted.

I will take a look shortly and see what I can move/link for you.

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I am glad you found comprehensive information at the blindfold reading site - I paid much more but didn't find anything useful.
For one thing, the man is anonymous - even when he sends a parcel by post.
According to GMC - the creators of MBA - he is an Indonesian copying their material.
The hardcopy I received was full of grammar and spelling mistakes.

Is this the guy? His contact information is listed here. http://press-release-distribution.net/all-press-releases/97616-midbrain-activation-training-stimulates-brain-to-sharpen-the-intuition.html I just figured the mistakes were due to ESL language barriers.

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Some interesting studies about movement and the brain. I debated starting a new topic but put it here on account of the midbrain/athleticism and exercise/memory connections.

Study shows that mice bred for athleticism have larger midbrains.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Athletic-Mice-Have-Bigger-Brains-UC-Riverside-Research-Shows-187918971.html

http://news.menshealth.com/exercise-and-memory/2012/12/15/

http://www.fi.edu/learn/brain/exercise.html

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A study on the effects being blindfolded has on the brain
http://www.asrn.org/journal-nursing/433-scientists-unmask-brains-hidden-potential.html

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 Also, here is a general overview on ParaPsychology. It's interesting to learn that " both Harvard and Stanford Universities have fellowships endowed explicitly for psychical research (but they don't advertise it, and most of the available funds have been usurped for other purposes)." 
http://www.deanradin.com/para1.html
http://www.deanradin.com/para2.html#ninec
http://www.deanradin.com/para3.html

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« Reply #77 on: March 22, 2013, 03:38:25 AM »

For anyone interested, I came across a book written in 1924 about Mid Brain Activation. I found a copy for about $25 that should be here in a few weeks so I have not read it yet, but the book is also available on worldcat.

http://www.worldcat.org/title/mobilizing-the-mid-brain-the-technique-for-utilizing-its-latent-power/oclc/718085502



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« Reply #78 on: March 22, 2013, 03:59:22 AM »

Thanks I just got a copy for $35.  I knew there was a reason why I was still awake.  Look forward to sharing notes with you.

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« Reply #79 on: March 22, 2013, 03:04:56 PM »

Sweet!  I bought it too.  smile Thank you.

Edit:  Nevermind, my order was cancelled because they couldn't locate it, and the rest are above my price range.  But I did find a tidbit about the book:

http://www.deepdyve.com/lp/psycarticles-reg/mobilizing-the-mid-brain-eouv4CNeqh

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« Reply #80 on: March 23, 2013, 10:52:01 PM »

I called the Midbrain School in El Monte, California and they are charging $3,000 for their 2 day workshop. I asked if 4.5 is old enough, they said as long as they are able to follow directions, but an "immature" 4 year old or 3 year old is probably too young from what I can tell. They said to send them an email and get on their email list to be notified of promotions/discounted workshops. That's too rich for my blood because I know we can do it cheaper overseas.

This is kind of a loopy website, but it does mention the book in more detail. There seems to definitely be a suggestibility aspect to this. I am not against it personally ( like the article mentions I believe we are all "programmed"  on some level so intentional input doesn't bother me) but I bring it up because I know others are sensitive to this sort of thing.  http://www.sacred-texts.com/nth/ssug/ssug04.htm

ETA: They originally told me "twenty nine ninety nine" on the phone, and I was a little taken back and that's when I told her we could get it cheaper overseas. She called me back and didn't leave a message, so I returned the call the next day and she remembered me. I said "You DID mean three thousand dollars, correct?" and then she replied yes, that she wanted to call me back and mention to sign up for possible discounts.

Maybe there was still a language barrier and I misunderstood twice? I dunno. But at $500 I would seriously consider it as we may be passing through CA in a few months, I'd try to take a side trip.

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« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2013, 10:58:37 PM »

Hmm, Ashly did their free test evaluation at their clinic, and they told her  the 2-day workshop was $500.  There were some language problems though.  I'll talk to her again.

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« Reply #82 on: March 24, 2013, 01:58:41 AM »

Here is the full copy of Frederick Pierce's book.  You can even download it as a pdf.  Forgot to say its free too.

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t0qr5nb5j;seq=11;view=1up



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« Reply #83 on: March 24, 2013, 02:12:21 AM »

Oh I just wanted to add a thanks to TMT for mentioning such a fascinating book.  I am so excited to read it that I feel super nerdy right now...like just put on a super hero nerd suit kind of feeling.   LOL

Anyway, one of the amazing things that I continue to hear (watching interviews) from most children considered to be geniuses is that they don't feel they are any different or any smarter but that they just have a real burning passion.  The question I have always pondered is "how to instil this passion in a child?"  Is activating the midbrain more than just activating mental abilities or are we tapping also into an emotional connection as well.? It does appear to be that this book is about suggestion.   Is suggestion part of the answer?  ???  So much to ponder...

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« Reply #84 on: March 24, 2013, 02:36:49 AM »

well darn, now I need to see if I can cancel my order. :P Thanks for the link!

ETA: This book looks really neat but I think it is different than the Mobilizing the Midbrain book, it has a different title. So if you ordered it, don't cancel. smile  I am really looking fwd to reading both and I am grateful for the link!

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« Reply #85 on: March 25, 2013, 05:15:11 AM »

 Frederick Pierce's book.  You can even download it as a pdf.  Forgot to say its free too.

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t0qr5nb5j;seq=11;view=1up

The link does not work
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« Reply #86 on: March 25, 2013, 05:34:02 AM »

Yes, it works perfectly, I was able to download it

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« Reply #87 on: March 25, 2013, 08:29:33 AM »

Yep I have the book, the link worked for me. Thank you. I was between reads too!
I am all for suggestion. I have used it with my kids in the past to boost self esteem and also to improve concentration in my spacey child  smile
We have and do use alpha and theta music as well as subliminal suggestion music with good success also. I have a subliminal suggests MP3 that does amazing things to the concentration levels in my kids.
I am not sure if that is specifically anything to do with midbrain activation but it is suggestive. I am having trouble finding the line between left right and midbrain.

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« Reply #88 on: March 25, 2013, 08:54:58 AM »

Mandaplus3,
How do u use your alpha, theta, subliminal msg audios? As background music or do the kids need to be actively listening?
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« Reply #89 on: March 25, 2013, 10:16:34 AM »

couldn't download it Sad . Since it is free online , could somebody please send me the pdf by mail ??
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