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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2008, 06:05:51 PM »

Hi Zaja,

Most of the books are written in traditional chinese and are from taiwan printers. You can get them in taiwan or hong kong. Although it is not that easy to find initially unless you know shichida's chinese name and not many book retailers heard of it.

In singapore, they do have too but limited titles, but its also in traditional chinese. Singapore shichida school doesn't help much too, they would just tell you to go ...... look for them yourself in the local bookstore without telling you that it's mainly in traditional chinese.

I have over 10 TC shichida books from fetus education to how to feed the baby right and its methodology and how to steps .... but as like GD more than half the book is about his concept and his belief .... so trying to source the DIY for parents ... unfortunately maybe limited.... probably half of it can be found in the books the other half .... held only in their class ....  but the gees of the class is in how to conduct a succesful class so that the child can learn vs learning itself .... you can flash but the child isn't absorbing.....

oh i also have a few other books binded by shichida japan in english specially ordered from their acedemy in japan for cross referencing .... its about the same written in TC. Except those written in TC covers a wider range and concept .... if you can read TC i recommend as much as you can get your hands on .... as its pretty wide from pregnancy to toddlers.

Oh yeah to give a few observation, shichida is about learning how to learn, so that subsequently you can aquire knowledge easily like speed or wave reading ..... but acquiring knowledge is just one aspect of right mind, whereas GD is about input of info or knowledge ...., but both emphasies joyous learning environment ..... i believe GD copied some from shichida, and shichida copied some like math from GD. There is another observation, shichida emphasis a good heart to be a better person thru power of suggestion, GD on the other hand cold hard knowledge .... i would say shichida is the real right mind program .... GD treats the right mind as a hard disk to store as much info as possible ....

but of course the real question is "what really is the right mind to you"?

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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2008, 06:55:35 PM »

seems to be that the Shichida method is about making money
it is very hard to find information about it
you have to pay tons of money to go to his schools
parents are told not to talk about it
and you can't even find books about it
if Shichida emphasis is a good heart to be a better person
why wouldn't he try to make this available to all children?
why should just rich kids be able to learn this stuff if it's so great?

Glenn Doman to me is all about the mom is the best teacher
you can do all of his programs at home
information is easily available to all though cheap books
everyone who wants can use his method
and tell others about it
he has done a lot of work for poor nations
and his goal is for all children to be healthy smart and kind
which would make a better world for all

maybe i am misunderstanding Shichida
if so i would love to learn more





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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2008, 12:43:19 AM »

I agree, Tatianna. That's my only problem with so many of the early education methods, whether DVDs or other forms of teaching-- So many of them are outrageously priced. You'd think that the creators of these programs would want every child to have the opportunity to learn and excel, but it seems that many of them are just out to make a buck. That's why I love that Brillkids is giving everyone the opportunity to get Little Reader for free or discounted. You can tell that KL and his team really want all children to have the tools to reach their full potential.

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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2008, 11:42:13 AM »

Thanks for the reply Trinity Papa. It seems that it's really quite a challenge to get hold of Shichida materials as most are written in traditional Chinese and they only share the info by enrolling your child to their school. I wish they can also do what Doman is doing with books and DVDs apart from the courses they offer so they can reach a wider audience. Oh well...I guess those living in Singapore, Malaysia and Japan may just be fortunate to enrol their children in the Shichida class. 

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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2008, 12:16:51 PM »

I am sorry i tried many ways trying to think write and rewrite how best to reply ..... but i do not wish to offend or sound presumptious.  So i will simply say try understanding theory of relativity, do some deep buddhism studies, and get as much shichida books as possible. Your personal life experience if your open enough would guide you with the rest.

The other qn we have to ask is what really is this new hype ...."Right Brain". Is it simply the grey matter that sits in our right hemisphere of our skull? What is its ability? Is flashing card the only way to communicate with it? Or are we only tapping on source of it. I mean selling the idea of baby can read is already pretty hard with last generation, but with time it slowly becomes more acceptable, wow baby's can read. But it took him almost 50 yrs. I doubt they are going to be ready for shichida's right brain. If done wrongly, it could be labelled and condemned by those who fear it, creating a witch hunt. Same thing i guess GD may have suffered in their initial stages.

I would simply say GD simply scratches the surface of right brain, but its the best we have, its tested its open, and in the 21st century its acceptable. We simply just started thinking our baby's aren't just cry babies wailing away and waiting to be fed. And GD is smart by limiting it, he knows it would be more easily acceptable by the all fearing public. Shichida method you need guidance otherwise .... anyway i doubt i can do it, so i wouldn't bother teaching my girl using shichida method...., except to learn how to focus and meditate.... anyway if you understand ESP, power of suggestion, visions, telekinetic.... and more you would know what i mean. But then again .... its not everybody who has that inborn ability .... even if you go thru 10 yrs of shichida method .... so to be safe stick to GD.

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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2008, 12:33:50 PM »

I am sorry i tried many ways trying to think write and rewrite how best to reply ..... but i do not wish to offend or sound presumptious.  So i will simply say try understanding theory of relativity, do some deep buddhism studies, and get as much shichida books as possible. Your personal life experience if your open enough would guide you with the rest.

I totally know what you're talking about, Trinity Papa.  Wink

Actually, the branch of science that is now starting to prove a lot of the 'weird' stuff you mentioned is Quantum Physics. The observations made in this field would give you a new definition of 'weird'!!

And I agree with what you said - I think one key reason why Shichida is so 'under wraps' is cos it (or parts of it) is very easy to be mocked and ridiculed by the layperson.

That's why I love that Brillkids is giving everyone the opportunity to get Little Reader for free or discounted. You can tell that KL and his team really want all children to have the tools to reach their full potential.

Aww... thanks. smile Yep, we certainly do feel that early learning (esp reading) is too important to be kept just to the privileged!

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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2008, 05:09:41 PM »

Yes Dear very sorry ... it's quantum mechanics where a particle is an object and a wave at the same time ..... theory of relativity was on space time .... sorry did my stuff in my teens confused the 2 .... that's some 20+ yrs ago ...


zaja ... its supposed to be quantum ....


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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2008, 07:09:02 AM »

Dear all:

I just saw this discussion, and found it very interesting. Actually, there are three right brain systems in the market today. Most people heard of Shichida and Doman, but more and more people now are discovering the Wink and TweedleWink program. It is a gentle early learning program developed by Pamela Hickein in a Montessori environment.

We often receive questions about how our program differs from Shichida and Doman early childhood programs. I am attaching an email response from Pamela to one of the parents.

The Doman method focuses on intellectual and physical development.  It is based on anecdotal evidence of children improving their capacities after repeated exposure to flashcards, music, foreign languages and kinesthetic vestibular exercises.  The parents teach
their children at home, with love and enthusiasm.  It is a terrific program, but there is definitely
something missing, as you yourself have found.

Shichida's method actually began with Doman's method, but in the early 80's he combined it with accelerated learning techniques (from Buzan, Rose, Lazonov, and others) because he felt that children could do much more than Doman's method had touched upon.  His particular interest was in the right brain, where he believed photographic memory, speed reading,
computer-like math calculation, perfect pitch, instant multiple language acquisition, intuition and other unique abilities were located. 

He also believed that only children ages 0-6 had access to the right brain and that it closed soon after, if not exercised during those critical years of development.   (We now know
that this pathway can be reopened later with encouragement and gentle right brain play.)

In his experimental right brain classes he also found that the right brain pathway closed EARLY when a child sensed negative emotions, such as stress, fear, or boredom.  Thus, the main foundation of his classes became assisting  the child's loving relationship with his parents and fun learning play with many different forms of stimulation.

Doman's method works with inputting information with repeated exposure to images to help a child learn.

Shichida maintains that the right brain soaks up every image, and so his emphasis is on strengthening a child's learning abilities through memory enhancement and photographic imaging.

We believe both are important.  Our right brain program takes these theories to the next step by teaching parents and children together.  Parents learn how to function at the alpha wave frequency (8-13Hz, the frequency where most children's brains function) so that they can communicate effectively, which allows a natural figure-eight back-and-forth flow of loving
and learning within the family.

When we first heard of Shichida's method in the early 90's, we were very skeptical, yet equally curious. After years of research and use of right brain education, we have found that all children are capable of photographic memory, multiple language acquisition, perfect pitch, speed reading, computer-like math calculation abilities and the other abilities he attributes to the right brain.  HOWEVER, children will develop the talents that their innermost passion
dictates.

In other words, we have seen incredible talents developed, which have surprised and pleased us all--yet the child is in the driver's seat, so to speak.  A child may develop perfect pitch and begin composing beautiful compositions.  A child may begin seeing the answers to complicated equations in his mind without any conscious mental computation.  A child may invent incredible things on the screen of his mind.  A child may draw and write like the
geniuses of the day.  Yet most commonly, the results of right brain training help a child learn quickly, almost absorbing the material as he progresses through school without much effort at all.

96% of all children who have attended our classes have increased photographic, auditory or kinesthetic memory abilities.  Mental imaging--the imagination or visualization faculty used by geniuses of history like Albert Einstein, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart or Leonardo da Vinci--is reawakened in those who have started to lose it, including the parents.  The whole dynamic is
a whole-brain enrichment process which sharpens the senses, fills the heart and encourages children and parents to learn with passion.

Our form of right brain education is the only other developed program on the market at this time.   But, our focus is a little different.  It is a gentle, yet effective approach, and not as much as "cookie cutter" curriculum as is offer through those disseminating Shichida's theories.

In the United States, the focus is on a wholesome left and right brain approach.  The most recent brain research confirms that the hemispheres work together much more than conveyed in the 1968 "split brain" research.  The WINK program includes activities designed to marry the hemispheres, while keeping the right brain active.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Wennie
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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2008, 07:40:19 AM »

Hi there,

Both my boys have attended Shichida.

Just to share with you:
My first boy was with Shichida, when he was 1.5 year, for 1 year before we withdrew him and taught by ourselves. We were amazed by their teachings. The usual exercise would include drawing energy ball (where your kids gather positive energy and washing away negative energy), imaginary play (i.e. picking out a strawberry just by looking at the card), ESP (mind reading), photo memory, flashcards session, speed reading, linking memory, finger training, songs, language training (usually in Japanese, Spanish, Chinese etc).

For Shichida, they advocate that parental involvement and lots of praises are important, and not so much of 'getting right answers' or 'testing' the child. So, during class of 60mins (once a week), a parent will be there with the child to do activities together. The rest of the week, there will be a homework that you will need to do with your child together.

What we did during non-class:
I drew my own flashcard series, flashed flashcards nightly. Did the Shichida homework religiously and we played telepathy games. We read 4 books nightly, to a max of 16 books per night. Now, we do lots of work together and I find myself spending like 15-30 mins every night just to do his work with him. My first boy was not exposed to LR then.

At 18 month old, he could sit still in class for 60 mins and participated in all of the activities (except for linking memory), while other children in his class scream and cry. He was able to get all the ESP games correct every lesson. I handed in my homework every quarter to the Shichida teacher, I spent time as a parent to flash flashcards with my boy.

Now he's 5, he writes very well and has very high concentration skills. And sometimes, he surprises me by asking me if this/that is on my mind. He's highly matured too so I can't tell him white lies easily. He loves to complete his daily assignments and is thrilled when I reward him with story-reading because he finished his homework. And his progress is tremendous.

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« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2008, 12:11:30 PM »

that's amazing! Thanks for sharing that, Winth!

Could you tell me a bit more about how you would play the telepathy games and imaginary play?

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« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2008, 01:33:30 PM »

For telepathy, we use the boy's 'magic eye' - in the middle of his forehead.
We get him to use his 'magic eye' and look through a few cards that are faced down. And say we ask him to look for the card with 'strawberry' on it. And that's it, simple as that. To add to the feel, we put dramatic sounds to it, as if his 'magic eye' is doing the reading. Sometimes, we even ask him to guess which elevator (in the shopping mall) will stop to pick us up.

For imaginary play, we make him imagine that he can actually pull the cute teddy bear out from the picture and cuddle it. My boys like 'imaginary play' and they like it on foods stuff. So, they will pull out foods from advertisements and banners while we are on the road and put them into their mouths. My 5 year-old will actually tell me when the fruit tastes sour after popping into his mouth. My 18 month old will reject fruits, before he even tasted by giving me a very sour look. And well, I was trying to trick him to eat the green kiwi.

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« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2008, 02:31:16 PM »

Winth as we all are aware that shichida's classes are only available in Jakarta,Singapore etc.But it is not available in USA.so pls can u guide me for activities in little brief like magic eye as u said that we ask my kid to search strawberry picture fromthe cards that are facing down.So what does it mean first u will show that card to your child and than make them to face down an than u will ask your child to search right??And how do you us finger training an telepathy??
Can u pls share with all of us so that even we can do with our kids.And can u even tell us that is this course available in any dvd or cd form ??so i will ask my brother who has  recently visite Jakarta for some wrk and i will ask him to bring something like dvd course.Pls help us Winth.

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« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2008, 03:55:23 PM »

can u please tell some more games( imaginary game) that i can play with my daughter. im sure it would be very much interesting. ur idea is very new to me and eager to know from u. to winth

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« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2008, 01:38:04 AM »

Hi Sapna and rixu,

I don't know Jakarta, bec it seems to be only in Singapore and Malaysia, as well as from the country of origin - Japan. For some of the materials, parents with students in Shichida class will be able to buy them, but not so for outsiders. They do not have dvds to show you what goes on during classes, neither do they conduct classes via dvds, so it might be difficult unless you attend the class. We are not permitted to video the class session too.

For the picture cards, I will tell my boy that one of the cards has a picture of a strawberry. I will show him first the strawberry and let him do his smelling, touching etc. Then I will shuffle 2 or 3 cards, face down. Tell him to use his 'magic eye' to search for it. For pictures which shows cars, trumpet etc, he will use his sense of hearing. Hope you get the idea.

Another method is I will show him 2-3 cards with shapes on them, face up. Then, I'll tell him that I am thinking of this shape, and I will 'transfer' this image in my brain into his brain. He will receive this brain wave of mine and point out the shape that I'm thinking of.

As for the imaginary game, the correct term is called 'image training'. Usually, the teacher starts by saying, let's go to the ~ today. So e.g. in the park, she will paste flower pictures around the classroom and the students are suppose to go around to smell and feel the soft petals on the flowers. If it's to the zoo, animal pictures will be in the classroom and students will be taught to touch the animals. If it's a spikey animal, like a porcupine, parents are suppose to let them touch the picture and be dramatic about it. E.g. when the child touch the animal pic, we are suppose to say 'ouch, that hurts' and make a face that says it's painful to touch spikes. Well, at least that's what I do.

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« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2008, 06:09:38 PM »

Winth u said that u will first show him strawberry right is that mean that u will show him actual starwberry or the picture of strawberry??? and what abt car and trumpet u will show him actual car and trumpet and than u will ask him to use his listening senses to find the picture which are facing down????pls explain.and pls give us few more tips of what we can do at home as we cannot attend shichida's classes

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