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Title: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: Twinergy on September 07, 2010, 01:45:54 AM
First off I want to thank DadDude for sharing his Fleschcards with everyone.  My kids are crazy about them and frequently ask to play the game where I sound out a word then they guess it, even when we don’t have the cards with us.  The go through 40-100 cards a day, usually limited by my available time rather than by their attention.  I think that laminating the cards and allowing the twins to handle them has really piqued their interest in the cards.

Recently I peeked at future card sets and realized I’m getting close to the lost card sets.  I’m wondering if anyone would like to collaborate and recreate the missing sets?  I have ordered the book “Why Johnny Can’t Read” from the library and should be getting it soon.  My plan is to make up lists of the missing words and could really use some help tracking down the corresponding pictures.  TIA.


http://www.mediafire.com/FleschCards


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: DadDude on September 07, 2010, 02:14:58 AM
The nonprofit I'm working for has asked me to come up with a proposal to make a free, fancy Flash version of the entire set of Fleschcards.  Also an iPhone/iPad app.

The silent e card sets, yeah, those are not complete.  Also, there was a set that I printed out for ourselves and then it dropped.  So...

Of course, I'll make sure the whole set is there with the Flash site/app.  I can't tell you when this is going to be done, but I'll be under pressure to deliver quickly.  I can't even tell you DEFINITELY that it will be done, but I'm pretty sure it will.  My second child will be arriving in about a month, so we'll need it soon enough!

If it is successful, we'll use the platform I'm designing for a massive multimedia "children's encyclopedia," essentially my presentations, but "on steroids" with various useful options (and there will be a "flashcards" view of the presentations--using the same pictures, instead of full sentences, we'll have single words and, maybe, phrases).  I'm pretty excited about all this.

If you have any special requests for features, this is the time to tell me.


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: kizudo on September 07, 2010, 03:11:28 AM
DadDude,
I just want to tell you how thrilled I am with your news!  I know you said not to hold our breath, but I am going to start my happy dance!
Kizudo


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: rugrat on September 07, 2010, 03:56:35 AM
I have yet to download all the fleschcards, I think I've only done 12 downloads!  :rolleyes:, but I'm so excited to read that DadDude maybe be putting together an iPhone/iPad version... I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  :D


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: Frechesmaedl on September 07, 2010, 08:19:19 PM
Thank you Daddude for your Fleshcards!

My little girl will be three in two weeks and she can read in large (overwhelming!) part due to your Fleshcards. I consider the definition of reading to be the ability to read words in other settings/formats/contexts and sounding out words she has never seen, but not just CVC words. We did the following:

- ABC flash cards, board books and songs from 9 months onward
- YBCR DVDs and cards and Starfall from 12 months
- LF fridge phonics and wordwhammer from 1 year
- Fleshcards from 2 years onward
- Phonics books including Nora Gaydos and various free internet ones and phonics wheels from 2 years onward

We have primarily concentrated on the short vowel CVC words and are cycling through all the short vowel CVCs for the third time. This cycle, we are staying on them for 1-2 weeks and bombarding ourselves with all of our other materials for the particular vowel being covered. We will soon move onward, so this update is great Daddude!



Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: DadDude on September 08, 2010, 03:06:15 PM
Frechesmaedl, I'm so glad to hear this--it's very motivating to me!


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: TeachingMyToddlers on September 08, 2010, 03:45:12 PM
sounds really cool!


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: Twinergy on September 08, 2010, 10:19:27 PM
That is fantastic news DadDude I really hope the project gets approved.  It sounds like there aren’t as many missing cards as I originally thought, more great news.  I have the book on reserve anyway so I will be looking at it in the next few weeks. 


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: Frechesmaedl on September 09, 2010, 01:36:00 AM
Oooops, Daddude, I forgot to add that your Fleshcards are her favorite out of all the materials. For her second to almost third year of life we probably used them 70% of the time, as fridge phonics somewhat intimidates her. We used to tote around a stack with us when we were on the bus or at the doctor's office etc. We also looked at them when she woke up from her nap and this was at her own initiative "Mommy, I want to look at the cards"  or "Mommy, I want to hold the ____ card". With the latter, she would proceed to carry said card around for half the day  lol


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: LMsMum on October 28, 2010, 08:56:52 AM
Bringing up this topic.

I have recently started using fleschcards with my daughter and she seems to like them. We only read these cards when she feels like and she has been making progress. She seems to remember most of the words after she has seen them a couple of times or so, but I don't think she actually reads them phonetically, I think she simply remembers what they look like. She knows the "drill", so she sounds out each letter and then blends them into a word, but sometimes after sounding out the letters correctly, she would blend the sounds into a wrong word. She has not been able to read an unseen word either.

She is quite a strong visual learner and she has been good with the whole-word approach. Her auditory processing is quite a challenge at the moment and I read somewhere that such kids may take longer to start reading phonics. Have you experienced something similar with your kids? Should I continue with the approach?

I will appreciate your opinion.


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: waterdreamer on October 28, 2010, 03:39:37 PM
I'm excited that flashcards will available on both iPhone and iPad. I have my iPhone with me ALL the time so this would be helpful in waiting rooms or while waiting in line at the grocery store.


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: Twinergy on October 28, 2010, 10:48:14 PM
Hi LMsMum,
I have spent some time reading through your past posts to understand a little more about your DD.  My son also has sensory processing issues, mostly sensory seeking behavior, but auditory processing has been brought up by his OT as a possibility.  (We just had his anual review today and he has responded so well to speech therapy that he no longer qualifies for speech therapy.  :D He has responded very well to working on more eye contact.)  How is your DD's speach therapy coming along?  Does anything in her speech pattern indicate something similar to what you have seen with teaching phonics? (i.e. can pronounce individual phonemes but has difficulties stringing them together.)  How long have you been trying the fleschcards?  My DS can do do the Fleschcards so I don't have any BTDT advice, but I might suggest trying this special needs parenting forum (http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=157) for some ideas. 


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: LMsMum on October 29, 2010, 07:49:09 AM
Hello Twinergy,

Thank you very much for your reply. I am glad your son has graduated from ST, congratulations!

We are actually having ours today, in less than three hours. LM is not yet at the age-appropriate level, so, in theory, we should qualify for more therapy, but as we live in the UK, where this help is very limited and restricted, you never know! We have only received 6 hours in total in a year and a half!

We are due an OT assessment, so that may give some more light on the matter.

I have only been trying fleschcards for about 2-3 weeks and I have to say they have been a great articulation exercise, as LM got to practice each sounds. So I can see this is beneficial, and she does seem to remember many of the words. My concern was more about whether this is the best method for her bearing in mind her learning style (big picture before details) and if, perhaps, there are some alternatives. I remember reading that fleschcards did not work for some parents on this forum and was wondering if they may have found another way.

Thank you also for the link to the forum, I will search it for ideas.


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: Twinergy on October 30, 2010, 05:48:52 AM
Hello Twinergy,

Thank you very much for your reply. I am glad your son has graduated from ST, congratulations!

We are actually having ours today, in less than three hours. LM is not yet at the age-appropriate level, so, in theory, we should qualify for more therapy, but as we live in the UK, where this help is very limited and restricted, you never know! We have only received 6 hours in total in a year and a half!

We are due an OT assessment, so that may give some more light on the matter.

I have only been trying fleschcards for about 2-3 weeks and I have to say they have been a great articulation exercise, as LM got to practice each sounds. So I can see this is beneficial, and she does seem to remember many of the words. My concern was more about whether this is the best method for her bearing in mind her learning style (big picture before details) and if, perhaps, there are some alternatives. I remember reading that fleschcards did not work for some parents on this forum and was wondering if they may have found another way.

Thank you also for the link to the forum, I will search it for ideas.

2-3 weeks isn’t very long, and it sounds like at least some words are sinking in.  It took my kids about a month to even try to blend the words so it sounds like you are ahead of us on that.  My inexpert opinion is to continue trying the Fleschcards a little longer, until you see her OT.  Working the OT has been very beneficial for us in understanding my DS’s behavior, maybe you can also gain some insight into your DD during this meeting.  I found this book  (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0743428641/mothering-20) which looks like a good resource, from reading the reviews it sounds like the book is helpful in understanding different suptypes of APD.  I also came up with a lot of hits when I did a google search for  "auditory processing disorder + teaching strategies."



Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: LMsMum on October 30, 2010, 07:39:37 AM
Twinergy, thank you very much for your reply and the link to the book, and karma to you! It has been quite a rollercoaster trying to pinpoint what is LM’s problem, as each professional we have seen seems to have a different view. As her cognitive abilities are quite strong, opinions vary.  It looks like this book may be a good read before she is seen by the OT.

I will also continue with the fleschcards, as you suggested, and see if she picks it up. It could also be that perhaps, she needs to see very many CVC words before she is able figure out the phonics.

(By the way, my worries regarding LM’s SLT assessment earlier on were not groundless, as she will not be getting any more individual SLT. The system has changed and now her school nursery teachers will be required to undergo a training to be able to help her in school. I really don’t see it working very well as her school is not even on the register for training yet and I don’t think a short training will enable LM’s teachers to help her a lot. As I can’t afford private SLT, looks like I will be doing a lot of reading trying to help her!)


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: Yimmy on November 24, 2010, 08:08:35 PM
Hello,

Just a quick question about fleschcards as done by Daddude (thank you, Daddude!!).. Can someone kindly advice me on if i have to cut each word individually or i show the whole paper of 4 words to my baby at a go in each set. Wanted to know before i cut them all up!! Thank you.


Yimmy
 


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: kizudo on November 24, 2010, 08:15:38 PM
They're meant to be cut into strips across.  Then you can fold it so that the word is on one side and the picture on the other.  Show the word, then the picture.  Later, if you DON'T glue the folded paper together, you can cut down the fold and play a match up game with your child.


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: Yimmy on November 24, 2010, 08:23:33 PM
thank you! will do. i aim to start using the cards, in a few weeks, so been busy preparing them all. takes so long!!!! but almost done now.

Pray my daughter takes to them partially because of all the work i have done  ;) . She loved YBCR flashcards, so im hopefully she will get it.

tks again.


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: kizudo on November 24, 2010, 08:52:58 PM
No problem.  My son is not interested in flashcards anymore so I am using the words and pictures to make word wheels for him to spin.  So when he spins to "man" he can lift the flap and he'll see DadDude's picture of Einstein, when he spins it to "pan" he'll see a pan under the flap,etc.  Hopefully that will keep him interested for a while :)


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: Twinergy on November 27, 2010, 03:29:44 PM
What a great idea Kizudo.  Mine are not interested in the flashcards anymore either so I'm trying out books.  I just made the first one and will see if they are interested after a few days.  So far it is working but maybe it is just the newness.  If it doesn't work out I can always try cutting them up and making a game too.  If it does continue to hold their interest I will be making more books to share.

The book is organized with 4 rhyming words per page (lad, glad, sad, dad.)  My kids are old enough that they are pointing to text (one started at 14 months and the other at 22 months) so I don't think I need to break them down into bits of information as a flash card would do.  Plus by grouping them with similar words it will help the kids see a pattern. 


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: kizudo on December 03, 2010, 08:47:46 PM
Someone asked me what my word wheel looks like.  Here it is.  It's a little rough, but it will do.  I'm planning on changing the word families by just sticking on a new label with the new ending and then making a new "insert" circle with the first letters and pictures.  That way I can use the wheel more often.

I just used an old cereal box but reinforced the handle with two popsicle sticks and a second strip of cardboard, then wrapped it with masking tape.  I probably could have made it prettier...maybe next time :)


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: shaman on February 04, 2011, 01:50:25 PM
Dad dude, thank you for making the Fleschcards. Karma to you!

I need some advice please:

I just made the first batch of Fleschcards for my son- and he loved them- loved holding them and looking at them that is :) I read the words as instructed and then showed him the pictures. After showing them to him 2 times, he started showing me the picture and telling me what word it is- just like the EK cards.

I broke a rule by starting these cards with him when he knows about 2/3 or 3/4 of his letter sounds. I think we are supposed to start these when he knows all the sounds. But I was impatient and just wanted to see what happens when we do these cards, since he knew the sounds of the letters in most of the words. I wanted to show him where we use the sounds we learnt.

Should I continue doing these cards with him or is it too early?

Making cards without the pictures will be a big risk since he loves books and cards with pictures.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Shaman


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: TeachingMyToddlers on February 04, 2011, 02:02:15 PM
Kizudo- so creative I love it~!!! :D


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: DadDude on February 05, 2011, 02:34:48 AM
Shaman, I'm sure (having read all the creative things people are doing with these!) I don't know everything that can be done with these cards.  It certainly doesn't hurt if your son is naming the things in the pictures, I'd say.  Good vocabulary practice.

If he knows 2/3 of his letter sounds, he's almost there.  At least, it didn't take my boy long to fill in the gaps.  We finished the job with the LeapFrog Alphabet Bus (there are many other electronic toys that help with this, to say nothing of apps and Starfall's ABCs page) and also refrigerator magnets.  Of course, keep reading alphabet books too, he needs reinforcement for everything.

But if you followed my practice of sounding out the words letter by letter first slowly, then faster, then blending the sounds together slowly, and finally prompting your child to say the word at regular speed--well, I am sure your child will quickly pick up any missing letter sounds.  If your boy is game, I'd try teaching him the rest of the letter sounds and the cards as well.

What I would really like to know is if anyone uses them the way I used them, viz., sounded them out for the child, then prompted the child to put them together--and if, after that, the child learned to sound out the words silently himself.  I know a lot of people have been using these cards with one-year-olds, and it might be difficult to do this at that age.

Now I'm starting it all over again with E. (my second), who just turned four months.  The interesting news here is that, as I carefully watch his eyes when we look at the iPad (up close, so he can see it easily), I notice him looking back and forth between words and pictures.  He looks at words with great interest.  On screens with both words and pictures on them, he even seems to be looking at the words more than he does the pictures.

It occurred to me that this is pretty close to the sort of early work I did with H. (my first), although we did that work with board books and commercial baby flash cards, which are fine, but not as good as Doman cards, or the ones available for the iPad, or the ones I've made.  But I do remember running my fingers under the words when he was a baby, and then pointing to the pictures.  One big difference between H.'s environment and E.'s is that the house was quiet when H. was in babyhood, but with H. being four and all, E. is constantly hearing prattling and conversation when he's awake (and often when he's asleep).

In other news, I'm designing an early reading survey--have been working on it all week while I wait for the coding on Reader to get started in earnest.  First of its kind, that I know of.  When I have a more advanced draft, I will post it for you all to comment on/add to/edit.  This will ask detailed questions about use of all major methods and products, as well as about how people have done with various skills.  I'm really REALLY curious about the results.  I will specifically be asking for people who have NOT had good luck with YBCR/Doman; I want to know what works and what does NOT.


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: lzp11 on February 05, 2011, 11:26:20 AM
Hi DadDude
Could you please confirm if the Fleschcards are now available on the ipad / iphone?  If so, how do we find them?
Thanks in advance - I'm really looking forward to using these and I be extra keen to use them electronically if possible.


Title: Re: Who is using Fleschcards to teach phonics?
Post by: shaman on February 05, 2011, 02:39:55 PM
Thanks DadDude. I will keep doing the cards with him and try your technique (sounding out each word and blending it)- will let you know how it goes.

The survey you are working on sounds very interesting....I know its early but I had to write something....please try to keep it both subjective and objective, otherwise the companies making these educational products will use it for their benefit and parents who do not understand that these things work best when there is parental involvement will just put on the DVD's and expect magic. I am saying this from a recent experience with a friend who asked me about what I was using with my child ... and after she bought it, expected her child to learn everything by himself and later told me....'that thing you told me....doesn't work'....some people donot realize that a highly expensive activity/toy cannot do what an involved parent can do with simple home made things.

I believe these activities work best because of dedicated parents. Other things are very difficult to judge (age to start at, health status, siblings etc...) we are still learning about that. Its like a study we were doing on 'what things cause a particular cancer'...the air we breathe, the food or family to blame?....'oops did you make a note of the fact that I love peas and ate it every evening'  :)  It is difficult to pinpoint...but atleast we get a general idea...it is a very difficult job for the investigator...good luck to you!

Also, if you need one more question   ;)  , please add 'prenatal stimulation'....I believe that did wonders for both my son and me.

Take care,
Shaman