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« on: April 19, 2009, 05:25:17 PM »

http://media.photobucket.com/image/printable%20periodic%20table/crissytrewin/PeriodicTable.jpg

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 05:29:42 PM »

I love that table! Awesome! I could have used that back in chemistry class. smile

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 06:07:34 PM »

I've been working on the periodic table for LR. I hit a road block b/c I was using some pictures from wikimedia and I didn't realize that a few elements were missing. I actually had 2 pictures for each element, and the fist set of pictures is complete. DadDude, maybe you could help?

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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 06:14:48 PM »

Thanks for the link!! I can definitely use this smile 

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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2009, 12:53:04 AM »

nbhockaday, I've made three chemistry presentations that introduce elements (and other aspects of chemistry), which my little boy really likes.  I'll bet you will be able to get some good ideas from that.  I'll have to make them available soon.

What I personally would like to have in a presentation of the elements is: the element name (e.g., Potassium); the abbreviation (K); the element number (19); and labelled pictures of 1-2 things that the element is found or used in.

Also, I'd exclude all the higher elements that no one but chemists cares about...isn't it enough to learn the familiar ones and info about them?  Maybe all of them through 30, and then selected ones after that?


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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 01:20:18 AM »

I'm doing all of them, with 11 (I think) in each category. So people can just download whatever they want. I say the element and then I say the elements number for the picture audio (which can easily be turned off). The first picture I have is the shell pictures from wiki commons (it also shows the element abbreviation and number and some chemical info too). I wanted the other picture to be the abbreviation and the number like what you find on the periodic table, but I can't find the full table of individual elements like that. This is the one that I was getting my individual elements from, and as you can see, there are many missing. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Albedo-ukr/Periodic_table
But I would like something like that. I can't find it anywhere.

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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 06:43:00 AM »

I have posted some periodic elements on the EK flash card printouts at least the ones i know how to explain .... its EK so canbe used for 1.5 or 2 yrs up.


http://forum.brillkids.com/downloads/?cat=156


There is no point flashing the entire periodic table as there are too much information on it for the little one to see, also the words maybe too small ..... I think as a introductory would be fine..... breaking each bits of intelligence smaller you can have more intelligence or info to read.

However, it would be good to make it into LR, which i don't have it yet still trying to get my points, would be to intro the periodic table, and then show colour of the element table like gas or metals, and then the periodic element table with its atomic weight, symbols, number of electrons on each shell, and then the electrons on the shell as a diagram and the pictures of the raw element, where the element can be found in, eg K, potasium can be found in bananas .... easy abc linking for babies ..... but unfortunately that kind of work is .... woo documentary level .....

Nevermind hope somebody going to churn it out in blu ray form, including many other docu-baby info too, You know like those from BBC or NASA or National Geagraphic. (You know stuff like the blue planet, the solar system etc)(hmm but then again there is the internet probably i just teach her how to read and use the internet .... yes ) Just the lazy me talking.



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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 02:45:20 PM »

Hi the table is awesome ... I did not even think that I could teach my girl chemistry at an earlier before reading this mail

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 03:32:40 AM »

Hello everyone!

I'm new so I'm sorry if my questions are too basic. How would you guys actually teach chemistry? Would you flash the presentation that Trinity Papa did and then use the periodic table that DadDude posted to reinforce palying with it?

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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 12:49:25 PM »

I don't know, I just gave him a "tape-laminated" copy of the periodic table to play with, and have shown him my Chemistry 1-3 presentations.  He seems to be rather interested in them.  FWIW he saw a bottle of Clorox the other day and got excited.  I asked him what's in it, and he said chlorine.  So it must be sinking in.

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2009, 01:41:39 PM »

Hi have actually considered teaching chemistry.  It is one of those subjects that can be difficult for most people to grasp later in life and involves a lot of memorization.  I have seen it hold back people from their desired career path.  I also think some preschool kids would like playing with chemistry models.  Maybe one of my kids will show and interest in science, if they do I will definitely teach chemistry.

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2009, 05:54:36 PM »

DadDude, I was going to post this in your tips thread, where you mentioned that you don't think parents should teach certain elements, but this is a more appropriate thread. You do know that kids have to take chemistry in high school, right? I had to learn all the elements. I think it would have been easier if I would have had some kind of introductory foundation to chemistry when I was younger. If we teach elements to kids (or not necessarily teach them, but show them) then they may have an easier time learning them later. It's just like all the Doman encyclopedic knowledge stuff. Some of it is unnecessary, but some of it will help later in school if the child recalls the info.

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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 06:13:21 PM »

nhockaday, please don't take offense.  I won't fault you or anybody for teaching all the elements, if you can get the kid to sit still long enough to learn them.  I don't mean to say that it's worthless knowledge or anything.  There is much more trivial information out there.

I had two years of chemistry at a good public school.  I never had to memorize all the elements, as far as I can recall (it was a long time ago though), and knowing every one of the elements wouldn't have especially helped me at the time.  It is much more useful to have solid knowledge of the most important and commonly-used and -discussed elements.  Besides, if my little boy were to memorize them at age 2, I really doubt he would remember the more obscure ones at age 10, or 15, or whenever he was studying chemistry at a high school level.  I'll bet it would be easier to re-memorize them then, for whatever that's worth.

My concern is mainly the opportunity cost--what you aren't doing, because you are doing this.  But that of course is up to each parent to decide for him- or herself.

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 07:07:02 PM »

I didn't mention that many college degrees, not just a chemistry degree, will require the student to take chemistry in college. I think we all agree that learning is much easier the younger you are, so why not take advantage of teaching everything that a child may need later in life? I like some of the things said on this page http://www.universalpreschool.com/ask-an-expert/science-expert.asp

I did not take offense, I just think that learning the periodic table is something that will help a child later in life. I agree that things like learning obscure birds will not be something that will benefit a child later, but chemistry is all around us and it is a hard subject to learn. If a child already has a basic knowledge, then it will be easier. You are right when you say that it is better to teach the important elements, and I agree that's where the focus should be, but why not (at least) introduce them all? I am not saying make your kid memorize every one, but let him/her know what's out there that makes up our world.

Although a child who is shown the elements may not remember every one of them later, he may find it easier to learn them or recall them. There have been instances that I have read about in which older children and adults could recall encyclopedic knowledge info that they were taught when they were young.

And parents can show the periodic table, lets say once a week or a few of times a month, and then they have all of the rest of the time to teach more important subjects. I don't think that spending a few minutes occasionally on a subject will take away from the things that a child should be learning. But like you said, to each is own. It is definitely not something I am going to spend a lot of time teaching, but I think it will be beneficial if it is taught in a rapid-flashed fashion.
And FYI, I had to memorize all the element abbreviations and many of the numbers  wacko .


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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2009, 03:47:57 AM »

Hi guys!
I am sooooo sorry but if anyone can help me on how to teach this I will really really apperciate it.
Sorry but I have forgotten it completely I just cannot recall it at all It is like this part has been wiped off ..
Please please help me thank you smile  smile  smile  smile

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