Baby Math Genius

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Baby Math Genius

This child (13 months old) is two weeks into their math program, and the parents recorded Anthony's first "test". He knew the true number of dots without counting.

His parents used right-brain training methods developed by Glenn Doman.

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Author Lappy	Rating 4.89 (9 votes)
Date January 19, 2009, 07:12:46 AM	Views 6283
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[Ayesha Nicole]

Dear Lappy & All,

Amazing! And I now feel a little more confident in reading the book, and beginning the program with Sarah & Salma.

Thanks.
Ayesha

[DomanMom]

Hey look it's me and my nephew! We really need to take an updated video of him, he's two now!

[KL]

Yes, please do!

Did you or his parents keep up the math program with him? How did it go?

[DomanMom]

I did the math program with him for a while when he was a baby (between 10 and 14 months old) but then his mom graduated so I wasn't watching him in the mornings anymore, hence the program got put on hold.

But I've been watching him 5 days a week now and we've started on the program again, he is doing great. We've been reviewing numbers 1-20 and doing addition. He knows his numbers quite well and he really enjoys the addition. He turned two in November so it's really of utmost importance now that I follow through with the whole program, before his "window of opportunity" closes. I'll keep you all posted how he's doing.

[Chris1]

Hi Elizabeth,   

Re: Subitizing: what is it?
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2009, 05:02:52 PM »
   
Quote from: DomanMom on January 02, 2009, 07:13:27 PM
Yes, we have done math problems with Cheerios, raisins, beads, candies, etc. If I lay two piles of objects down and ask him which one has 17, or which pile has the square root of 81, or which one has 29 divided by 29, plus 7, minus 3, he will pick the correct pile. He has not, however, ever been able to simply look at a dot card, or pile of candies, or whatever, and shout out how many there are as rainman did. It's strange but, everyone I've talked to so far who has done the Doman math says this is the case, that their children can solve the answers to amazing calculations (pointing to the correct answer, whether there be two possible answers or ten) but they are not yet able to verbalize what they know. I wrote a blog post about it here, it's a little long, but it might be useful to helping with understanding this perplexing mystery about verbalization.

http://worldsbesteducation.blogspot.com/2008/11/math-mystery.html

Have you tried showing Hunter a quantity card and then asking him to place an item over the matching numeral on a 1-100 number grid?  Can Hunter write the correct answer or use a number line or grid to indicate the answer?     
 
Chris.

Taken from a Shichida site-     

I was surprised to find that my daughter can solve subtraction problems. But I have noticed that when I asked her orally, for example, "What is x plus y?" she answers incorrectly. However, when I write the formulas for her, she writes the correct answers. It is the same thing with subtraction. Also she can solve two digit plus two digit problems quicker than me! Orally, she can't solve anything.

[Malathiprasad]

When can I start teaching my daughter these maths programs

[rose08]

Does anyone know how young children can see things this way? To me it just boggles the mind 

[jemjem]

Hi Malathiprasad,

You can teach math to babies at around 4months.  THe cut-off time is 30 months old.

 

[ketty rain]

wow
nice  dose the baby count the dots?or what? i really cant understand it?

[Chris1]

Babies are not able to subitize these large quantities, Kim Peek-The Real Rain Man is not able to instantly recognize large quantities. Savant Syndrome-Daniel Tammet states that no examples exist of savants with the ability to subitize large quantitities. Savants are slightly better at estimating the quantities but are not able to state exact quantities.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/7bVVQ0FZeys&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/7bVVQ0FZeys&rel=1</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/k2T45r5G3kA&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/k2T45r5G3kA&rel=1</a>

Confirmation bias and gestural cues can account for these posted vidoes.

[Maddy]

At the very end, Kim Peek's father says, "About the only thing he can't do - he can't reason out mathematical problems" (!).

So I guess the director of Rain Man cherry picked the tootpick subitizing ability from another savant!

Chris, are you sure that no savants can subitize? It seems odd for the director to completely invent this ability.

Daniel Tammet says that he sees "little sparks" that eventually become numbers. His brain works out the answer and presents it to him. Naturally, there's no way to tell whether subitizing is involved.

[Chris1]

Hi Maddy,
  Daniel Tammet doesn't just see sparks -Numbers, according to Daniel, are special to him. He has a rare form of synesthesia and sees each integer up to 10,000 as having their own unique shapes, color, texture and feel. He can "see" the result of a math calculation, and he can "sense" whether a number is prime. Daniel has since drawn what pi looks like: a rolling landscape full of different shapes and colors.

10 Most Fascinating Savants in the World  http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/10-most-fascinating-savants-in-the-world/

Daniel has met Kim Peek and he stated in his book that savants are not able to subitize large quantities, including himself.
 

[momof3boys]

My baby doesn't seem to like seeing the dot cards, so we stopped for a while. Any ideas to help?

[GloriaD]

some ideas ....
Get her favorite toy to teach her the dots, do it faster, celebrate the lesson with extreme affection (hugs - kisses - tickles) - change the location where you offer the lesson, wear a wig, change tone of voice while giving the dots at the speed of light, change the time at which you give the lesson (make this one your first lesson in the morning when baby is at her best), the more exagerated and funny the better. Dont worry if at the begining the baby focus just on your face - as it is the most interesting piece for her anyway-  soon will get the idea and just keep doing it.
this is one more advantaje of doing paper dots it gives you more flexibility instead of being glue to a screen.  (for older kids 2 years and older definitely go for LM- for babies I prefer paper)

At 1 year old or even 2..... I would say the response is 90% parent driven - most be creative and pls do not have any expectation; babies can feel it, they may be getting all the knowledge they need at a glance - offer a funny short - fast - intense session and let it go.

This process is not one of those that will offer us (parents) inmediate gratification.

What ever you do - pls just do it with joy and free from expectations.


Regards,

Gloria

ps: would love to hear from more experienced moms - I have an older child 5years I am sure other Doman moms with younger babies can contribute tons!!! 

[garry]

Hi all,
I missed the right age. My daughter is 3 yrs old now and I have put her to a montessori school.
I want to know how I can teach her now. the wonders of calculation you are talking about now seem amazing but what is it? Is it Little Math?
Garima

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