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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2012, 05:28:44 PM »

Hi! I just constructed the flash cards and started showing my 4 yr-old the video clips this morning - however, I think I want some assurance before continuing. Before - for example,  if I ask him 3x3, he knew to skip count by 3, 3 times or he would grab 3 of our Math U See blocks and know it's 9. It's a rather slow process - but he gets the concept. After showing him the website clips this morning though (which he loved)...there's a lot silliness as he tries to remember that "tree times tree equals line" and he goes off telling me all the words that rhyme with tree.   So....I'm wondering if this is a good thing to continue? Or am i worring too much? I'm pretty confident he could learn all the tales quickly and therefore know the whole multiplication table - which is great! But is it worth it having him stop thinking in terms of skip counting and instead in terms of shoes, tress, doors, etc - LOL. I'd love your thoughts!

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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2012, 10:11:26 PM »

Babymum, that clip is similar but it is far too complicated. The memorize in minutes is much much easier to grasp, especially for younger kids. A two year old has no point of reference for a boy with a 6 on him being in first grade, they don't know from personal experience that 6 year olds are in first grade. Multiplication in minutes is pegged to rhymes, much easier to teach rhyming to a toddler.
Theycan, if your son understands what multiplication represents ( that 3 groups of 3 objects makes 9 objects.) then you have nothing to worry about, continue with the stories and memorize the whole lot. It won't be long before the "silliness" turns into a rapid fire of multiplicaton answers. It doesn't take long for children to stop saying the "tree times tree equal line" and jump to " line, nine" and then to just "nine"
Lets face it if you wait until rhyming isn't fun for him you are stuck with rote learning like most children learn in grade 3. Boring!
Personally I see no reason not to teach the stories even if your kids don't skip count or understand times tables. At some point you need to teach them the understanding but I can't see why it has to be first  smile Of course if they understand it first or as you teach it it'll be much more interesting for them.

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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2012, 11:38:35 PM »

BabyMum-
Alex has done really, really well with the Memorize in Minutes material because the stories are so cute! In the very beginning, I tried to go slowly and make sure she could do on the RS abacus what she was memorizing...but she just wanted to get on with it LOL
I did do demos with her on the abacus the first time we read each story, and she does see it as repeated addition (yes, I know some will disagree strongly with this, and we have taught her that it works that way for whole numbers yes )
Occasionally during a math playtime, I will have her show me on the abacus the multiplication, but really, that will come in time if you didn't strictly check understanding as you taught. My kid just always wants to know the why of it......

I also have the Times Tales material that my mom sent, but, as MandaB said, they are far more complicated. Even the pictures themselves are more complicated! Since this is a very RB way of learning them, I also had her close her eyes to visualize the pictures (and to re-tell the stories to me!). I can't imagine she would have learned as fully or cohesively with a DVD, even if the stories/pictures were more enticing... But again, that could be due to her age.

Also, as we did the reading of the stories, it was cuddle time/reading time with mom, which I think she learns from much faster (of course, that too is a RB way of teaching, so they go hand-in-hand)

One thing I did do: since I started these with Alex just after age 2.5, I showed her the number association cards several times over the course of a week. I wanted to make sure she didn't struggle to associate, but I am not sure this was strictly necessary-but it did make the process flow a bit better for us!

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« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2012, 12:12:44 AM »

Okay - I think I'm a fan now : ).  I'm having him also skip count after he tells me the answer and it's going well.  My thoughts before on why not to have him know it first, was that it seems I should get him used to doing mental math...to "see" the three 3s in his head when you say 3x3 (maybe my question is - are you supposed to see that???) I just hoping I'm not mess anything up with mental math here in the beginning our journey  - LOL! Know what I mean? 

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« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2012, 03:10:35 AM »

Think of it more like adding bits of info to what they already know. If he already knows the answers it will be simple for his brain to picture three lots of three and KNOW that there are 9 objects all together. Like I said at some point the need to understand it but not necessarily first.
We dont stop flashing word cards because our baby has never seem a dinosaur now do we? Or we don't not teach them about atoms because they don't see them....
Think IMPUT!

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« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2012, 02:22:44 PM »

Hi, I have a great update too.  My daughter who is almost 4 also is doing a great job with the Multiplication in Minutes.  She loves the stories.  Sometimes, she gets confused because the stories are similar but I have tried to go slow and make sure she knows each one and the distinction before moving further.  We are starting 8 now. 

Thanks soo much everyone for the great ideas!  I always dreaded teaching the multiplication tables.  I thought it would be terrible, memorizing is!  But it was soo easy with that, I would never have thought  of it till Nadia and Manda encouraged.  Super Thanks  smile

Looking forward to more great ideas.  Nadia, if you have anywhere written down the things you do with Cammie, I would so appreciate it. 




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« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2012, 09:52:50 PM »

Wonderful! That great to hear. The kids truly love these stories don't they. Such a great idea for young children.

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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2016, 08:43:55 PM »

If you're looking for useful site where u can learn multiplication tips you must  visit Aztekium - http://www.Aztekium.pl/Master
I've learn my kids how to count well by this site  Cool   Cool   Cool 

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« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2016, 07:26:12 AM »

Thats' great.
many thanks
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