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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2010, 07:26:41 PM »

Thank you, DadDude, for the detailed review! Karma to you!
From what age you think it is OK to start the program?
Would I find some interesting activities to do with 1 year old in Kindergarten Math A?
So if I understood you correct just the textbook will be enough for the start?
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2010, 07:55:33 PM »

Twinergy! Thank you for the info!
Your post made me to call up my library and ask!
I will need to go to the library and fill out the interlibrary loan form there smile
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2010, 10:40:21 PM »

I forgot to mention, the library loan will probably only be for a couple weeks (I have seen anything from on week on DVD's to 6 weeks for a physics course), but it should be long enough to determine if you really want to buy it. 

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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2010, 01:41:30 AM »

Please bear in mind...I'm JUST reporting our own experience here.  I didn't do an exhaustive review of all the curricula out there, and we made this choice on reasonable but NOT wonderfully well-informed grounds.  So, while I am flattered by your replies, please don't just jump on the bandwagon because I happened to pick this book!  At this age a lot of people are doing Montessori math, for example, and who knows, maybe we should be doing the same.  I myself don't have time to do all the investigation I wish I had the time to do...

1) How old was Henry when you started Singapore math with him?
2) Did you teach him using another method (Doman, LM) before this program? You mentioned that he was able to do simple addition before starting Singapore math? Did you use something else to teach him?

The reason I ask is because I have been teaching my 2 year-old using the Doman method (initially using flashcards then subsequently, Little Math) since she was 15 months old but it has been inconsistent - mainly because she has not taken to math like she has to reading and she goes through periods when she would even refuse to watch LM. Since I can't test her to see whether this method is working for her, I am in a dilemma as to whether to persevere using Doman or to switch to another method entirely. Before we stopped (4-5 months ago), I was showing her quantities up to the 50s and multiplication equations. Thanks again for your input.
(1) We started about a year ago...when he was 3 years and 3 months, I believe.  The only problem with that was that he couldn't write his numbers very well at the time.  He still needs dots to trace for the harder numbers.  I have him figure out the answer and then I write dots for him to trace.  Lately he's gotten much better and faster at drawing letters and numbers so soon he'll be doing it all on his own, I think.

(2) Doman math is for babies (by the time they're toddlers most don't seem to like it), and Singapore math is a K-12 program.  We tried something like Doman math when he was 2 years 4 months or so, and he just couldn't get into it.  It was too late.  As far as I am concerned, something has to come in between Doman math and a workbook-type approach like Singapore Math--we did a lot of manipulatives when he was 2 and 3, taking inspiration from Montessori methods.

From what age you think it is OK to start the program?
Would I find some interesting activities to do with 1 year old in Kindergarten Math A?
So if I understood you correct just the textbook will be enough for the start?
I think it depends entirely on your child when it is OK to start the program.  Who knows, maybe we started too early.  Without pushing him, we have taken over a year to go through the first year's material, but that's because we've repeatedly put the books down for many weeks or even months at a time.  Currently we're back into it--he's interested once again.  Educationists generally recommend against doing too much worksheet work with kids younger the 5-6, and for perfectly understandable reasons: it's hard for them, requires attention and concentration most of them don't have, and it makes them associate a subject, or learning, with boring worksheets.

Well, if I thought that were true of my boy, I wouldn't be doing it, and that is why I am very quick to put the workbooks down as soon as he shows the slightest resistance.

Sure, you can get ideas for activities from Kindergarten Math A, but there are probably better sources of ideas of math activities to do with a 1-year-old.  No offense, but the idea of trying to go through Kindergarten Math A with a 1-year-old is silly.  You have to be able to meaningfully communicate with a little one in order to do these exercises.

The textbook alone was great.  We might be using both a textbook and a workbook for 1A, however.

I learned a lot from Einstein Never Used Flashcards, which goes into some depth about the stages children go through as they learn math concepts.  It's quite interesting.  I find this book's animus against "flash cards" and Doman to be misplaced, but otherwise it has a lot of great info.  It points out very helpfully that there are certain skills that pre-K kids learn, which are important to learn, but which most parents are probably not aware that they are learning.  For example, it is one thing to be able to recite the numbers 1-10, but it is another thing to count ten items; it is quite another to count ten items consistently well (without recounting the same item, for example); and it is another still to be able to "count on," for example, Papa counting a set of items up to six and then the kid going from item seven on.

Kindergarten A does try to strengthen such concepts, by the way.  But if you don't have the capability to learn them yet, you just don't, period.  It's like walking or handwriting: some things just don't arrive until the child is ready, and you can't make them learn such things (much) earlier.

Do check these reviews out, together they're much more helpful than what I've written: http://www.homeschoolmath.net/curriculum_reviews/

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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2010, 02:17:43 AM »

Thank you, DadDude once again!
Of course I completely understand that you can't go straight from LM to EB KM  yes  LOL
But since I have luxury of time, because my DD only turning one, I want to find out as much info as possible not only for the moment but for future references as well.
 And your reviews always candid and honest that is why I will be with  interest reading all the updates on the EB KM .
Said that I completely understand that every child is different, and even if it is the best reviewed program, it doesn't mean it will work for us as well.
Thanks for the link to the curriculum reviews! Looks very interesting.

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2010, 03:12:50 PM »

Lately I have been doing some research on this topic and I like the Mathematics Enhancement Programme. I haven't seen Earlybird Kindergarten Math.  So, I can't say if it's the same or not but based on some discussions it sounds similar. 

The best part is it is "FREE". I like their worksheets.

http://www.cimt.plymouth.ac.uk/projects/mepres/primary/default.htm

I am planning to do Reception and Year1 this year and then use Math Mammoth for grade 1.  This is similar to Singapore math and is lot cheaper.

http://www.mathmammoth.com/

For critical thinking I am using

http://www.criticalthinking.com/index.jsp

Little bit expensive but I think the material will overlap some of the above.  I bought the following bundle.

http://www.criticalthinking.com/getProductDetails.do?code=p&id=01440

Has any one tried any of the above?  Any comments?





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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2010, 02:02:59 AM »

Thank you dadDude for your review and sharing your experience. I am happy my grandson is a little younger than yours because i can be guided by your posts which i consider very valuable.
Being spanish our native language and his english is not develop, do you think it is better if i translate the material before going over it with him or should i wait for him to work more on his english and working the workbook in english will also help in learning english besides math?

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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2010, 03:51:25 AM »

Heath,
 Thanks a lot for  the all links (espesially for  the free one LOL )!  Karma to you!

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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2010, 05:19:55 AM »

heath, thanks a lot for those links I like the MEP method with a lot of playing.
Also found very usefull the critical thinking e book with examples

http://www.criticalthinking.com/company/free_gift_ebooks/Preschool-Academics-eBook_2010.pdf

Karma to you for that link

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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 03:22:21 PM »

fabulous link 2010bebes!  karma to you!!
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2010, 06:38:41 AM »

this is great..

Anyone knows how to get the bundled set of critical thinking materials in Singapore?

Shipping cost is really expensive for buying direct from the site.

http://www.criticalthinking.com/getProductDetails.do?code=p&id=01440

Any info will be good. email me direct at [email protected]

Thanks.

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« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2010, 07:44:22 PM »

Thanks again for the reviews they have been very helpful - I have looked at a number of programmes but have seen none of them so personal experience is always great to hear. It is also great that you say the writing could be a problem - my daughter is 3 years and 1 month and cannot write the numbers though she will try so I am very loathed to do worksheets that involve a lot of writing. We have also been using a lot of manipulatives, counting to higher numbers and skip counting now too. I know she has been able to do basic addition for a while though not to high numbers so it is great to hear what is in the curriculum. I guess for now I will have carry on as I have been until she is more ready for worksheets and writing. Does Singapore teach money and time at all and if so at what stage? Like you I also want my daughter to understand the maths but also be able to apply it later on (and even now) Does this programme help with this?

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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2010, 10:04:56 PM »

Thanks again for the reviews they have been very helpful - I have looked at a number of programmes but have seen none of them so personal experience is always great to hear. It is also great that you say the writing could be a problem - my daughter is 3 years and 1 month and cannot write the numbers though she will try so I am very loathed to do worksheets that involve a lot of writing. We have also been using a lot of manipulatives, counting to higher numbers and skip counting now too. I know she has been able to do basic addition for a while though not to high numbers so it is great to hear what is in the curriculum. I guess for now I will have carry on as I have been until she is more ready for worksheets and writing. Does Singapore teach money and time at all and if so at what stage? Like you I also want my daughter to understand the maths but also be able to apply it later on (and even now) Does this programme help with this?

Tanikit,

I have been using this program for the last couple of months with my 2 year old. I had anticipated that she would have problems with writing down her answers but, cognitively, I thought she was ready to start the activities. So I bought a set of number stamps from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Stamp-Jumbo-Numbers-Symbols-Stamps/dp/B000JLNC96/ref=pd_sim_t_5) -  I actually got the regular sized number set and not the jumbo ones but couldn't find the link now. Anyways, for the activities that require writing numbers, I would let her pick the right stamp, stamp in her answer, and then trace it with her pencil. So it turned out to be two activities in one - doing math and practicing her tracing/writing skills. It has worked great - we are now about 1/3 of the way through the textbook and she enjoys the activities because she can play with stamps. Her pencil-holding skill and fine motor skills have markedly improved as well. Just thought I'd share this solution if you're concerned about the writing activities. smile

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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2010, 10:38:04 PM »

aangeles,

Thank you soo much for sharing so many helpful tips!  Not only about EB math, but also Ella's reading program.
 I hope you'll start your blog, to share more about  this wonderful journey you and your daughter are on smile
IT is just soo inspiring to see your daughter's progress.
I bought EB KM book A with "Paternables"wookbook  and  Patern Block cards for about ~ $20 on eBay during back to school time.
My Isabella is 14 months and of course it is too early for her to start EB KM or Jones's Geniuses Math, now we're concentrated on LM + learning colors and shapes,
BUT  I looked through those materials, it gives me idea in what direction I need to work with her.

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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2010, 11:42:41 PM »

aangeles,
Stamps are brilliant!

I believe these are the non-jumbo numbers.
http://www.amazon.com/Alphabet-Number-Stamps-Numbers-Symbols/dp/B0006I70C2/

They also have a number and letter set.
http://www.amazon.com/Alphabet-Number-Stamps-Numbers/dp/B0006J333Q/

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