Progress Update

[Ayesha Nicole]

ASAWRWB Everyone,

I wanted to share some good news that both the girls are now able to recognize the Arabic alphabet and pronounce them (almost clearly)!, masha'Allah.

Next we will work on combined letters from al-Qa'ida an-Nooraneeyah/Noorani and then move to the short vowels. 

How is everyone else coming along?

JAK
ASA
Ayesha

[ketty rain]

asa ayesha
i want to ask you about teaching arabic progress .did U start with the alphapets or words?arabic alphapet has at least 3 forms atthe beggining and middle and end also altashkeel?so what was your way because for memy child can read 300 word but when i teach her alphapet she refuse to accept !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ayesha Nicole]

Dear Ketty Rain,

I was going to use whole words with Arabic - until a teacher pointed out to me that the tashkeel would be confusing for the children and it is best to start with the alphabet and then add the short vowels, etc. - which is the teaching methodology of al-Qai'da an-Nooraneeyah/Noorani (it is also known as al-Qai'da Baghdadeeyah or Yasarnal Qur'an). 

I began with the individual alphabet letters and the corresponding soundclips that I use within Little Reader, which I show 2 - 3 times per day.  I will begin Lesson 2 - Combined letters which show the various forms of each letter.

There is another similar Qur'anic Arabic learning program that I have the files for that could be used in LR if you want, although there are no sound clips - you would have to find a tajweed scholar to properly recite them for you.  Just PM your email address and I will send you the text of the program, insha'Allah. 

For fusha Arabic, my husband will translate my English Doman word list into Arabic (without tashkeel) and create the sound clips for them and I will follow the same Doman schedule in LR, insha'Allah. 

It is a lot of work to create everything - but so worth it to see the girls correctly identifying the Qur'anic Arabic alphabet consistently after a relatively short time, masha'Allah.

JAK
ASA
Ayesha

[Ayesha Nicole]

ASA.  Dear Jam'ah,

Alhamdulillah, I am so excited that Sarah & Salma are progressing with Lesson 2 - Combined letters.  And I also noticed that in our daily reading of the mushaaf, they are identifying individual Arabic letters correctly within various words.   

ASA
Ayesha

[Umm Sayyid]

Dear Ayesha., congratulations!

Has anybody so far succeeded in teaching their children to read Arabic? Any stories?

[noureldeen]

asawrawb ya jama'at al khayer
i have been longing to this for such a long time.look guys, i am a Muslim Egyptian mom of 2 kids noureldeen3 years and 3months and omar 8 months.i was an English lecturer and a house wife now.i started with nour English first since he was 30 months. at first i was not satisfied cos i was worried did he acquire what i taught him specially it was in a different language.by time he uttered his first word "FRUITS"when he saw it on a plate while i was washing the dishes
since then i kept doing flash cards sorted by category and showing him PPS or downloaded pdf and i pronounce them for him
also ,i think it was the most important thing the video i downloaded for him from the u tube .they were much fun for him and by the passage of time it became a part and parcel of his life and he kept saying after them .
he knows dozens of categories now alhamdulleh  الحمد لله
concerning Arabic ,i  was a little confused ,whether to teach him whole words as English or mere letters.
i started with letters,i also ,downloaded nourelbayan software and play it with him often .it is so interesting and i recommend u download it.
the alphabet section is illustrated with sound and pictures.
he knows all the letters now accompanied by  a word or more as an example..
i am working nowadays with his first letters by tshkeel or harakat.according to al tarika al bughdadeya u have to teach all the letters with the same haraka first (al fatha)and then kasra and then dammah and then start to combine 2 letters to make a word likeأب أ/و,and so on i have a lot of source if u want me to send them willingly i will.
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this is also an index of the books that are taught to kids in the course.



http://ia311011.us.archive.org/0/items/noorbian3/
u can choose the .exe u want and download them they include Arabic , math in Arabic as well as English,..
sorry for the too long story but i wish it could be of some help to the Muslim believers
و السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

[ketty rain]

السلام عليكم
nooreldeen
i am teaching my 3 years old child arabic and she can read alots of words now ما شاء الله
i start with words then alphapets then now i will start with altashkeel w al harakat but i dont now what is the best way to introduce it can u help
has any one else tried this?how

[Ayesha Nicole]

as salaam 'alaikum. 

It has been some time since I posted to this thread, and felt that I needed some motivation, because this process of converting Noorani to the Doman method in LR is long and tedious!!!  Alhamdulillah for everything. 

Thank you Nour el Deen for the links - although I am unable to download the files?

And Ketty Rain, have you progressed to couplets, phrases, sentences (4 - 6 words)?

The girls began an Islamic Montesorri preschool in August, and we still learn Noorani and Qur'an daily, alhamdulillah.  Currently, the girls are on Noorani Lesson 8b (al-Leen) and I am setting up lesson 9 daily playlists schedules.  This has been a long and tedious process (and I lost 3 months worth of materials production time because of computer system crash!) - yet well worth it since they can read and spell out the words from the mushaaf (they still have to learn lessons on sukoon and shaddah in the near future, insha'Allah). 

How is everyone else doing these days? 

JAK
ASA
Ayesha

[km276]

Wa alaikum salaam wa rahmatullah Ayesha.

Great to hear your girls are progressing mA.  We are still working on three letter voweled words and my son is now starting to spell them out in the mushaf/arabic books aH.  I think we have a way to go before we can progress on to the next lesson though.  My son has also started to ask for whole words (names of prophets etc) so that he look for these in the text, so we've started to introduce these but I haven't put together a schedule or anything yet.

I came across these which I plan to use at some point iA:
http://www.learningroots.com/lr/lvq003.php

[Ayesha Nicole]

as salaam 'alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh!

Masha'Allah!  It is exciting when they progress to the next level, isn't it?      And I like that your son is connecting the words to text - I have also been finding the exact location in the mushaaf for the exercise words in Noorani, to see if they can find the word in the ayah; and they have a sense of accomplishment when they see it in an ayah.  And I also tell them the English translation of the word in context of the ayah.

Have you read the Doman book "How to Teach Your Baby to Read - 4th Anniversary Edition"?  I am stuck in preparing Lesson 11 and need to bounce ideas off someone, who is familiar with both the Doman method and Noorani-type readers.

I love the website and have seen it before.  It is very nice.

JAK
ASA
Ayesha

[Ayesha Nicole]

as salaam 'alaikum,

Excited that the girls are almost done with Noorani Lesson 9 - exercise; and I am working double time to finish preparing Lesson 12 - Shaddah, with 504 slides! (28 letters x 18 forms of shaddah) 

And I have a question.  The girl's Qur'an class at school is now on Surah al-Ma'n.  We are ahead on our own home schedule, and began Surah al-Takaathur today. I began spell reading the individual words (with last tashkeel and any applied tajweed rules, along with the english translation) of each ayah to them (i have them as large flashcards in .ppt); and then the spell reading of the ayah with applied tajweed rules and translation; listen to the wfw recitation; listen to the surah repeatedly.

I then asked them to pick out random words from each ayah, and they could do it, masha'Allah.

So now, do I begin with spell reading the other words in the ayah/suwar from the istiaadhah/basmala, surah al fatihah, and then from their current school lesson of Surah al-Ma'un, and work down to surah al-naas; or backwards from Surah al-Naas to al-Ma'un, and those in between to Surah al-Takaathur? :S

What do you think?
JAK
ASA
Ayesha

EDIT > Su 01.23.2011 @ 6:48 pm EST | I decided to begin with the istiaadhah, the basmala, Surah al-Fatihah, and then Surah al-Naas, and backwards through Juz 'Amma.   

[Ayesha Nicole]

Hmmm - I am also wondering if i should include page numbers on the short suwar flashcards? each flaschard/page has one large uthmani script Qur'anic word, with the ayah marker on a seperate page; while it is easier for me to put the words back in order with the numbers; without them, it will force the children and myself to learn the ayat . . . what do you think? . . .

slide 1 - "Surah al Fatihah"
slide 2 - bismi
slide 3 - Allahi
slide 4 - al-Rahmani
slide 5 - al-Raheemi
slide 6 - ayah marker for end of ayah 1
slide 7 - al-hamdulillahi
slide 8 - al-rabbi
slide 9 - al-'alameena
slide 10 - ayah marker for end of ayah 2
slide 11 - al-Rahmani
slide 12 - al-Raheemi
slide 13 - ayah marker for end of ayah 3
. . etc.

* * * I decided to begin with the al-istiaahdah, and subhanAllah.  I showed the following Arabic flashcards to one of the children:

slide 1 - al-istiaadhah
slide 2 - at-ta'awwudhu
slide 3 - a'oothu
slide 4 - billahi
slide 5 - mina
slide 6 - shaitaani
slide 7 - al-rajeemi

. . spell read the words, one at a time, then mixed them up, and she put them back in the correct order and pronounced them correctly by herself, masha'Allah!!!   now on to the basmala . . . and then Surah al-Fatihah, Surah al-Naas, and backwards to our current Surah of al-Humazah, insha'Allah.

JAK
ASA
Ayesha 

[km276]

Assalamu alaikum wr wb Ayesha,

Firstly apologies for the late response.  Things have been very hectic here - we've just been packing up our home to move to Saudi Arabia iA!  My husband flies out there next weekend and the kids and I are staying with my parents whilst we await our visas.

JK for the progress update - Ma sha Allah it is great to hear how Sarah and Salma are doing!  If you still need to bounce any ideas off anyone I am happy to try and help - though it sounds like you have it all figured out mA!

As for our progress, we are still working on three letter words, but at quite a slow pace at the moment.  My focus is on memorisation - and this is purely oral.  I sometimes show him the words in the mushaf if he is having difficulty with the pronunciation, but otherwise reading is currently a separate activity. In my view memorisation is easiest the younger you are and Hammaad is like a sponge at the moment - and I want to make the most of that time.  We are on suratul qariah at the moment but I have heard Hammaad recite several verses from other sections of the Quran - especially the surahs I am learning. At some point the memorisation will need to shift so he can learn independently, but I don't see this happening for some time.  My nephew, who is 6 is currently half way through juz tabarak and although he can read the mushaf he still prefers to memorise orally.

I haven't introduced any translation yet - I was planning to go through translation/tafseer when Hammaad is a little older (he is currently 3 years and 3 months) and when he has picked up some arabic iA.  How have your girls got on with the translation?

 As for page numbers - in my view anything that aids memorisation is the way to go. 

Hope this is of some benefit to you.

[km276]

Also wanted to share this site - useful for tajweed, has audio

http://www.tajweedinenglish.com/

[Ayesha Nicole]

wa 'alaikum as salaam wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh,

KM276 - alf alf mabrook, masha'Allah!!! I am so happy for you and your family, may Allah (swt) make it easy, ameen!  Yes, it amazing that children's minds are so absorbent at this age.  And the traditional methods of teaching tafeedh are orally based, and then they learn the meanings, translation, tafseer and grammar as they become older and develop more critical thinking skills.  

This is the approach of the Islamic Montessori preschool, that the girls attend; and they are memorizing orally; and learning the Arabic alphabet in school (although they are ahead of their class because of Doman method applied to Noorani, masha'Allah); and yet they don't always pronounce the words clearly and correctly with tajweed; for example, they would say "deen-a-kum; instead of "deen-u-kum" - so I began this process:

1.  spell-reading the individual words to them, using Othmany Quranic suwar.ppt flashcards, with each word on a slide, with English translation in the footnotes, and ayah markers on a seperate slide as well; all in correct order.

2.  then i will use the word-for-word recitation feature of this website that pronounces the couplets/phrases with tajweed:  http://www.houseofquran.com/qsys/quranteacher1.html

3.  then I will have them memorize the surah.  

It only takes a few extra minutes per week, and this seems to help them, because I can tell a difference.  We are currently learning one ayah per day for Surah al-Bayyinah at home, and in their school, they are on Surah al-Fil.  

I also adapted the Mauritanian method of memorization to create this schedule for memorization and review daily that they listen to and will recite along with Sheikh Hussary, ra:

New Lesson (098 Surah al Bayyinah) @ 10 times (once they have learned all the actual ayat)
Previous Lessons Reviewed on this schedule:
099 @ 5 x
100 @ 4 x
101 @ 3x
102 @ 2 x
103 - 114 @ 1x

Also for the new lesson, daily I will review the individual words flashcards for the ayah/surah, for easier recognition (which is the same concept as http://www.learningroots.com/lr/lvq003.php ); and for review of the older suwar, I am going backwards from 114 at a pace of one surah a week, to teach them the individual words in the surah and the word-for-word recitation (since I began this new process once they had already orally 'memorized' most of the ones listed, but not really visually).

There is a great book that explains how to teach tafeedh and review, that you can get once in KSA, insha'Allah:
http://www.furqaanbookstore.com/index.php/children/al-qaidah-an-noraniah/al-qaidah-an-noraniah-juz-amma-with-surah-al-fatihah-2.html

and this may be good also for your children:
http://www.furqaanbookstore.com/index.php/children/al-qaidah-an-noraniah/al-qaidah-an-noraniah-electronic-education-device-2317.html

Furqan Group is actually in Jeddah (and a different company than the website above that is in America):
http://www.furqangroup.com/

and as you know, I am a student of Sheikh Muhammad ar-Ra'ee, who resides near Washington, DC, USA  He is the older brother of Sheikh Farooq, owner of Furqan Group) in Jeddah.  Sheikh Muhammad published the Noorani English edition (that I prefer to the Arabic edition, blue cover, common in KSA, because of the real Uthmani script, and slower recorded audio clips:

http://www.islamicbookstore.com/b9420.html
http://nooranilearningcenter.blogspot.com/
http://www.recitequran.com/default.htm

But either book obviously works!, and the girls can read from both, masha'Allah.  Alhamdulillah, the girls are currently half way through Noorani Lesson 10 on Sukoon (and I manually created the rest of the alphabet pattern), and they already know the whole lesson; but I am having them practice it.  They will begin Lesson 11 exercise, soon, insha'Allah, that I have scheduled out for 6 weeks (4 sets of 5 words per day); and Lesson 12 Shaddah will take 28 days (one letter with 18 forms per day - and I manually created the rest of the pattern from HAa - Yaa).  

I am in the midst of trying to complete the rest of the book's materials into LR, hopefully within a month; and the girls will finish everything by the summer, insha'Allah.  They could be done faster, but they are so tired after full-time preschool for 7 hours a day (without a nap), masha'Allah.  So, in a few more months, they will be 4, insha'Allah, and spell reading directly from the mushaaf, learning the individual words/translation; and continuing with memorization, bi ithni Allah.  

I think after Noorani, I will begin using Rosetta Stone Arabic v.2 for them, since the lessons are short and fun.  Please keep us in your du'a, and we will keep you in ours.  

JAK
ASA
Ayesha

P.S.  Thanks for the link, I like that site a lot, especially the quizzes!

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