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[km276]

Salaam again,

Ok - all that makes sense aH!
 
I have had a look at the ppt - and see what you mean, but I don't know how to help! The only thing I could think of was to copy and paste from houseofquran directly into LR and then just type in the word box in English - I did a quick test and it works fine.  The word(s) will appear after the Arabic, in the same size, not below the picture as with your other files...

[km276]

Also, you can't use the pointer function.

See attached.

[Ayesha Nicole]

JAK.  I see what you mean with the category file . . .i could also use Arabic text on the 1st flashcard, followed by the translation on the 2nd flashcard . . . but i like the little footnote, and it makes randomization easy; i could also just use the Arabic text from the Othmany doc as the text for the .ppt, and it won't cut off at all - that is the script that i use for the individual words, and it is fine . . . hmmmm . . . i also tried something  new today . . . by color coding the rules in the individual word flashcards for surah al-Qadr (red for medd, green for ghunnah, aqua blue for qalqalah) for illustrative purposes only (as i personally don't read/recite from a color-coded mushaaf; but think it is good a as a teaching reference only) . . . it helped to remind them of the rule; i also added the last word of each ayah with sukoon (to illustrate the difference between written/pronunciation for the last word of an ayah); and the houseofquran.com site is black ink only . . . and i am beginning to think that just making the individual words will be enough for juz 'amma; along with the HOQ.com; because they can follow along in the mushaaf after those two steps; and as much as i would love to make the Doman 5 steps for each surah, it is extremly time intensive and i can barely keep up with them for the individual words at this point and keep them moving along on a reasonable memorization schedule. . . maybe in the future i will do it; wa Allahu 'alim . . . jak

[km276]

Hmm..can't view the fonts on the qadr file properly...

Out of interest, have you taught your girls the tajweed rules - such that they can recognise what a madd is etc?

[Ayesha Nicole]

. . . i will create a .cat file for you and upload it tomorrow, insha'Allah . . . yes, i teach them the rules and this is the beauty of al-Qai'dah al-Nooraneeyah, is that the tajweed rules are embedded in the lessons, and it is learned indirectly; and in both the Arabic and English editions, there is some color coding for medd, ghunnah, and qalqalah; and in the Juz 'Amma mushaaf and the last 3 ajza', there is color coding for these three rules only (but the colors are different than what I am using which is based on the Syrian Easy Quran publication:  http://www.easyquran.com/en/first.htm ) . . as I spell read the word, and words together, I point out the rule and explain that the individual word is written this way and it is pronounced in isolation this way; and the sound that it makes with applied tajweed rules for pronunciation sound like this. . . i make sure that they hold ghunnah for 2 counts; medd for 4 - 5 counts, apply the basic rules properly, because if they memorize it wrong now; it will be 10x harder to correct it later . . .

.. .for example, in Lesson 6, an exercise lesson, the word:

"jeem fathah alif medd = jaa/aaaa / hamza fathah = aa / pronounciation of "jaa/aaaa/a" . .

. . . so yes, they learn to recognize medd from the teaching methodology . . another example of a noon sakin & tanween rule:

"hamza fathah nuun sukoon = an / taa fathah = taa / pronunciation of an/ta (with ikhfaa applied) . . and i tell them the tajweed rule is noon sakin followed by taa = ikhfaa, and this is the sound . . . it is pre-tajweed training for them, and i really want them to learn/memorize the matn of tufaah al-atfaal, insha'Allah . . .

. . . how do you teach the tajweed rules? just as applied through recitation? . . . i tried this and when i spell-read and point out the rule, they pronounce clearer and more accurately every time, because they have the visual and the sound taught simulaneously . . . my method is Noorani taught via Doman method of teaching "facts" in a fun way   . . . alhamdulillah . . . and Sheikh Muhammad ar-Ra'ee, thinks it is very strange since i teach differently than he does, yet he is impressed with the results, masha'Allah . . . wa 'Allahu 'alim . . i just want to get them through the mushaaf, insha'Allah . . . ya Allah . . . and I thought converting Noorani was a challenge . . . may Allah give me the strength to finish what i have started, ameen . . .   



 

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[km276]

Salaam

Yes I teach just by applying through recitation and aH Hammaad doesn't seem to have any problems at the moment.  This is how my last tajweed teacher taught us - purely through talqeen. Hammaad has always sat in my lessons since he was a baby so he is familiar with the method.  When we get to the stage of reading individual words I will try your method iA - important so they can progress to learning Quran independently iA.

Jk once again for all your input - its really useful mA.  Please keep updating us - I personally find it very useful, especially as your girls are only a few months older than my son.  May Allah make our children bearers of the Quran and grant them true understanding of His words Let Him open our hearts to His words, iA - like the boy talked about in this video iA.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/HQZONHP-YII&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/HQZONHP-YII&rel=1</a>

[Ayesha Nicole]

wa 'alaikum as salaam . . . masha'Allah . . .you, masha'Allah, are more seasoned than I am at reciting . . . ameen to the nice du'a and jak for the video - really amazing . . .

. . i am attempting to create the Doman Steps 1 - 5 for Surah al-Fatihah in .ppt; and am having major issues with copying couplets/two words from the Othmany doc and pasting into .ppt as a text box. . .it is pasting with the words backwards, even though the text direction is set to right-to-left in both ms-word and .ppt ?!?  . . so, i decided to just copy the individual words as separate text boxes and place them side by side on the same line; not exactly as pretty, but will work for now  . . . i could also copy from ms-word and "paste > special > ms- word document object", as i did before, and it will display properly, with slightly smaller text, but it is an insignificant detail at this point . . .

so i am trying to figure out the words as 2 word couplets and 3 word phrases from a grammatical standpoint, because it is not my language? maybe i will just combine the doman step 2 and doman step 3 together (and just randomize the playback order of the .cat for couplets & phrases, to prevent 'playing with' the order of the ayat with missing words from the complete ayah; if that makes sense, because the object is to combine newly learned individual words that have a new meaning when combined together):

bismi Allahi
alhamdu lillah
rabbi alalaameena
arrahmaani arraheemi
maliki yawmi addeeni
iyaaki na3budu
wa iyaaka nast3aeenuh
ihdina as-siraatal al-mustaqeema
and so on . . .

and then just have step 4 sentences (ayah), one per page, and a book is made up of the sentences on seperate pages with images following (which we will not do) . . so, maybe have step 5 as the whole surah on one page, up to what the madinah mushaaf page displays? . . . what do you think? . . . and are you fluent in Arabic? . . . jak . . . 
 

[Ayesha Nicole]

hmmm - i thought emailed you the othmany doc and fonts, yes? if i have not completely lost my mind and confused you with someone else   , then it should display properly, because it is text from that doc . . . also, when i am looking at the .ppt on my computer, the font for the arabic text is "arial"??? (although i don't know why, considering the special fonts for the othmany doc where the text is copied from). . . .would you try to change the font in the downloaded .ppt to arial and see if that works for you? . . . and if you don't have the othmany doc and fonts, then please PM me your email address and i will forward the files for you!     . and i will still upload the color coded cat file once i complete it - maybe in a day or so, insha'Allah . . .

Hmm..can't view the fonts on the qadr file properly...

Out of interest, have you taught your girls the tajweed rules - such that they can recognise what a madd is etc?

[km276]

Salaam

Yes you have emailed the Othmany doc to me - my pc is in saudi so a bit limited with what I can do at the moment...don't worry about it.

Unfortunately not fluent in Arabic - pls make dua as I would love to be and one of the reasons for moving to Saudi is to facilitate that for the children iA.

What you have outlined for Fatihah sounds great iA.  For step 5 do you mean displaying a picture of the page from the mushaf? I think that's a great idea, mA.

[Ayesha Nicole]

wa 'alaikum as salaam . . . yeah - i thought so    . . . ahh, then it is easy, just access your e-mail and re-download the zip file, install the fonts, and save the othmany .doc . . . and taa-daa! you have it on the computer you are currently using!    . . .

. . . thus far, i have finished the surah al-fatihah .ppt words, couplets, phrases, sentences, and book/surah on one page (enlarged as much as possible); now i will "save as" another set for the color-coding of the tajweed rules; save each .ppt set (black and white; and colored sets) as jpegs and create a LR a .cat file for each step, and upload it and then you can see what i mean . . . and i don't have the soundclips for each step, only the ayah and surah; although, i suppose i could record the other steps, as an audio example of noorani method in doman format; i then have to create the daily sets/playlist schedule based on doman method of 5 sets of 5 cards for 5 days . . .but that takes a little time, because i will have to copy/paste each word (for each step) into an excel spreadsheet as a list, which filters into a schedule; one for each step, proof it, and then set it up in LR as playlists (like for Noorani Lesson 1 daily sets) . . . see what i mean about production time? . . .   alhamdulillah for everything . . . insha'Allah, you will learn arabic and can teach us! . . .  

[Ayesha Nicole]

WASWRWB,

I just saw information about this program and am unable to download from either of these sites:

Badongo
http://takemyfile.com/433147
this is also an index of the books that are taught to kids in the course.



http://ia311011.us.archive.org/0/items/noorbian3/
u can choose the .exe u want and download them they include Arabic , math in Arabic as well as English,..
sorry for the too long story but i wish it could be of some help to the Muslim believers

It is obvious that for reading Qur'an, it is based on Noorani, and I am more interested in the other subjects, especially 'iraab.  Would you please help me find a way to view these online, for my husband to review, and then we can order them from Egypt, insha'Allah.  Also, what is the teaching methodology?  Is it rote memorization via songs?  or what exactly?

JAK
ASA
Ayesha

asawrawb ya jama'at al khayer
i have been longing to this for such a long time.look guys, i am a Muslim Egyptian mom of 2 kids noureldeen3 years and 3months and omar 8 months.i was an English lecturer and a house wife now.i started with nour English first since he was 30 months. at first i was not satisfied cos i was worried did he acquire what i taught him specially it was in a different language.by time he uttered his first word "FRUITS"when he saw it on a plate while i was washing the dishes
since then i kept doing flash cards sorted by category and showing him PPS or downloaded pdf and i pronounce them for him
also ,i think it was the most important thing the video i downloaded for him from the u tube .they were much fun for him and by the passage of time it became a part and parcel of his life and he kept saying after them .
he knows dozens of categories now alhamdulleh  الحمد لله
concerning Arabic ,i  was a little confused ,whether to teach him whole words as English or mere letters.
i started with letters,i also ,downloaded nourelbayan software and play it with him often .it is so interesting and i recommend u download it.
the alphabet section is illustrated with sound and pictures.
he knows all the letters now accompanied by  a word or more as an example..
i am working nowadays with his first letters by tshkeel or harakat.according to al tarika al bughdadeya u have to teach all the letters with the same haraka first (al fatha)and then kasra and then dammah and then start to combine 2 letters to make a word likeأب أ/و,and so on i have a lot of source if u want me to send them willingly i will.
u can download the nour el bayan program from these links.

RapidShare
http://takemyfile.com/433156

Big & Free
http://takemyfile.com/433151

SendSpace
http://takemyfile.com/433143

HotFile
http://takemyfile.com/433155

EnterUpload
http://takemyfile.com/433148

KewlShare
http://takemyfile.com/433153

FileSend
http://takemyfile.com/433150

Zshare
http://takemyfile.com/433144

Ifile
http://takemyfile.com/433141

2Shared
http://takemyfile.com/433146

DepositFiles
http://takemyfile.com/433152

EgoShare
http://takemyfile.com/433154

Badongo
http://takemyfile.com/433147
this is also an index of the books that are taught to kids in the course.



http://ia311011.us.archive.org/0/items/noorbian3/
u can choose the .exe u want and download them they include Arabic , math in Arabic as well as English,..
sorry for the too long story but i wish it could be of some help to the Muslim believers
و السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

[Ayesha Nicole]

ASA again . . .are these all of the books in the curriculum?

http://www.archive.org/details/noorbian3

JAK
ASA
Ayesha

WASWRWB,

I just saw information about this program and am unable to download from either of these sites:

Badongo
http://takemyfile.com/433147
this is also an index of the books that are taught to kids in the course.



http://ia311011.us.archive.org/0/items/noorbian3/
u can choose the .exe u want and download them they include Arabic , math in Arabic as well as English,..
sorry for the too long story but i wish it could be of some help to the Muslim believers

It is obvious that for reading Qur'an, it is based on Noorani, and I am more interested in the other subjects, especially 'iraab.  Would you please help me find a way to view these online, for my husband to review, and then we can order them from Egypt, insha'Allah.  Also, what is the teaching methodology?  Is it rote memorization via songs?  or what exactly?

JAK
ASA
Ayesha

asawrawb ya jama'at al khayer
i have been longing to this for such a long time.look guys, i am a Muslim Egyptian mom of 2 kids noureldeen3 years and 3months and omar 8 months.i was an English lecturer and a house wife now.i started with nour English first since he was 30 months. at first i was not satisfied cos i was worried did he acquire what i taught him specially it was in a different language.by time he uttered his first word "FRUITS"when he saw it on a plate while i was washing the dishes
since then i kept doing flash cards sorted by category and showing him PPS or downloaded pdf and i pronounce them for him
also ,i think it was the most important thing the video i downloaded for him from the u tube .they were much fun for him and by the passage of time it became a part and parcel of his life and he kept saying after them .
he knows dozens of categories now alhamdulleh  الحمد لله
concerning Arabic ,i  was a little confused ,whether to teach him whole words as English or mere letters.
i started with letters,i also ,downloaded nourelbayan software and play it with him often .it is so interesting and i recommend u download it.
the alphabet section is illustrated with sound and pictures.
he knows all the letters now accompanied by  a word or more as an example..
i am working nowadays with his first letters by tshkeel or harakat.according to al tarika al bughdadeya u have to teach all the letters with the same haraka first (al fatha)and then kasra and then dammah and then start to combine 2 letters to make a word likeأب أ/و,and so on i have a lot of source if u want me to send them willingly i will.
u can download the nour el bayan program from these links.

RapidShare
http://takemyfile.com/433156

Big & Free
http://takemyfile.com/433151

SendSpace
http://takemyfile.com/433143

HotFile
http://takemyfile.com/433155

EnterUpload
http://takemyfile.com/433148

KewlShare
http://takemyfile.com/433153

FileSend
http://takemyfile.com/433150

Zshare
http://takemyfile.com/433144

Ifile
http://takemyfile.com/433141

2Shared
http://takemyfile.com/433146

DepositFiles
http://takemyfile.com/433152

EgoShare
http://takemyfile.com/433154

Badongo
http://takemyfile.com/433147
this is also an index of the books that are taught to kids in the course.



http://ia311011.us.archive.org/0/items/noorbian3/
u can choose the .exe u want and download them they include Arabic , math in Arabic as well as English,..
sorry for the too long story but i wish it could be of some help to the Muslim believers
و السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

[Ayesha Nicole]

ASA . . . how is everyone? . . .ahamdulillah, the girls finished Noorani a few weeks ago, masha'Allah; and we are about to begin Surah 087 al-A'laa (pdf attached of individual words) . . . and I am beginning to make word-for-word translation of the du'a (image attached) . . . what is your progress?

[Ayesha Nicole]

Surah 087 al-A'laa as ayat (pdf) attached

[km276]

Ws Ayesha.  Nice to hear how the girls are progressing - they are doing really well mA!

Here's an update on our progress:
Reading: I am using a slightly different qaida to noorani, but we are about to finish the equivalent of lesson 7 iA.  I have switched to teaching from the qaida (as opposed to LR) because I couldn't keep up with getting materials ready on time!  Hammaad seems to be picking things up fine, and I try to get him to read selected words form the mushaf for more practice.  Once we're through with Qaida I'd like to use to go through the suwar as you have done iA.  If you have any materials (LR files with words/ayat from suwar, even if they are without sound files) that you are happy to share - please let me know!  I tried downloading the A'laa pdf file but unfortuantely was unable to do so - the kalimah file looks excellent mA.

Memorisation: We should finish Mutaffifeen in the next few days iA.  We're aiming to complete juz amma by early September iA - and then spend some time revising the juz.

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