Progress Update

[Ayesha Nicole]

wa 'alaikum as salaam wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh,

Wow.  Fantastic!      Masha'Allah.  Tabaaraka Allah!  What is the daily talqeen hifdh schedule and review set by the teachers?  And how do you review at home?  And do they memorize the last 3 ajza or 5 ajza, and then move on to 002 al-Baqara?  I am thinking that we will have the girls memorize to Ya Seen (7 ajza), and then start with 002 al-Baqara, insha'Allah.

We are now learning at a pace of 3 lines per day, at their insistence; and I was planning to increase from 2 lines to 3 lines for Hizb 58.  Ya Rabb.  I am doing the best I can, alhamdulilah for learning Noorani method, and I could not do it without the WFW recitation with Sheikh Gamal here:

http://www.houseofquran.com/qsys/quranteacher1.html

And my husband helps with review and corrections, alhamdulillah.  I personally am being challenged because I had planned on the girls going to Sheikh Sayyed after Ramadhan, and he take over from Juz 'Amma.  Yet I was really devastated when he, as our resident professional Egyptian Qari of 12 years, moved to another city right after Ramadhaan.    I literally cried for three days! 

So, I am still making flashcards!     And they get sooo bored with repetitions, so I created the ayah sequencing sets that they seem to enjoy.  I also recently had them try to trace Surah al-Fatihah with colored pencils.  I copy the text from:

King Fahd Glorious Quran Printing Complex, released "Quranic Font" with complete typed Data of Quran in MS Word file.

Its free Unicode based OTF Font, and complete typed Data you can distribute and forward it to anyone. Website link is;
http://fonts.qurancomplex.gov.sa/

For Direct Download OTF font Link
http://fonts.qurancomplex-dev.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/UthmanicHafs1-Ver08.zip

For Direct Download Word Data file
http://fonts.qurancomplex-dev.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Complete-Ver08.zip

into a new MS-Word document, enlarge the font size, and change the font color to gray @ 30% so it is light and they can easily trace over it, to the best of their abilities; at least until they can write it out themselves, insha'Allah.

Ya Rabb.  At times, I wish I could put them into a hifdh school, but the minimum age is 8 years old.  So, I do the best I can, insha'Allah.  Alhamdulillah for everything. 

I am also in the process of re-formatting the older flashcard sets for Juz 'Amma with WFW with English translation and the ayah cards to include the KFGQPC font, which is more stable than the other one that I had formatting issues with.  I am also including the "hamza + tashkeel" that is 'hiding behind' the hamzatul wasl (looks a little strange, but really helps with knowing the technical spelling of the word), and adding a space between "wa" (and/or an oath) and the next word, because it always joined together in writing, so they don't think it is included in the spelling of the actual word itself.   

And then I will move on to Juz Tabaarak, insha'Allah.      May Allah (swt) give me strength to get through this.  Ameen.  Please keep us in your du'as, and we will keep you and yours in ours, insha'Allah.   

[km276]

Salaam Ayesha.

Have tried to jot down some notes on how they do things at the Quran School we attend here.  We go 5 days a week (3 hours/day), there are classes for mothers and children - so boys usually only go until they are 6 or 7.

Hifz schedule:

As an example, weeks schedule at the beginning of term:
Saturday Al Qalam, Ayah 48-52
Sunday Al Haqqah 1-7
Monday Haqqah 8-12
Tuesday Haqqah 13 -24
Wednesday Haqqah 25-27
Minimal revision of Juz Amma in school

They stepped up the pace towards the end of term though - Mursalat finished in 3 days, plus one day for repetition, and this was the previous weeks schedule (gearing up for exams):

Saturday Insan 6-12, revision of Jinn and Mulk, mothers asked to revise Naba, Naziat and Abasa
Sunday Insan 13 -22, revision muzzamil and qalam, mothers asked to revise takweer, infitar, mutaffifeen
Monday Insan 23 - 27 revision muddathir and haqqah, mothers asked to revise infitar, burooj, tariq
Tuesday Insaan  28-31 revision qiyamah and maarij, mothers asked to revise Ala, Gashiah, Fajr
Wednesday Mursalat 1-19 revision Nuh, mothers asked to revise Balad, shams, layl.

They memorise the last few ajzaa first - usually 5-6 I think.

Review at home - For hifz, the groundwork is done at school aH.  If I say the beginning of the ayah, he usually knows the rest so I mainly work on connecting the ayat, and play the relevant ayah for him.  Despite this, I am spending much more time on Quran than before - mainly revision. We go through the surah he is working on, the previous surah, one more from Juz Tabarak and some revision from Juz Amma.  The pace they set is much faster at the school- I would always wait until I was confident he knew the surah before moving on, but here they just go ahead.  I panicked a bit at the beginning, but with repetition Hammaad has managed to learn the suwar.  As I mentioned before I am planning to spend the next month doing revision only to make sure it is more solid.
(Am so glad I taught him to read early so we can concentrate on this! It is sometimes very frustrating - I had planned on homeschooling the English side of things, but after school and Quran revision, we dont manage much - practice some reading and writing and thats it!)

Am pleased with the way they teach though - Hammaad really enjoys school and loves his teacher.  Have sat in a class before, and this is what I have seen of the teaching method:
-talqeen, repeating after teacher
-emphasis on looking at how the teacher recites - when I sat in a class, the teacher went up close to the children so they could see her mouth and imitate
-some basic tajweed teaching - eg they show the makahrij when teaching the children letters of the alphabet
-the teacher wrote out the ayat they are learning on the board - I've noticed Hammaad is really keen to look in the mushaf more
-they explain the ayat (in Arabic, so not sure how much he understands!) but when I have been reviewing with him he sometimes shows one finger for wahid, or shakes his head as in dont do this! 
- Aside from Quran they teach the children to write the Arabic letters and numbers, basic stuff really.  The children in his class are mostly 5 year olds, under 10 students.

Al Hamdullillah, have made a lot of dua for a suitable teacher and programme like this, this is all from Him alone.  I ask that the children continue to learn and retain what they have already learned and develop a real love and understanding of the Quran.  Please continue to remember us in your duas and we will of course be remembering you.

[bk87]

Bismillaah

Assalaamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuhu

Maashaa'Allaah, its so lovely hearing the progress of your kids.  I have a question for you,

My daughter has learned around 50% of her arabic alphabet now alhamdulillaah, so should I move on to the next chapter of joining letters or should I keep repeating the alphabet until she has mastered it?

[umm_amani]

Assalaamu Alaikum dear all,

OK I have been slacking for a while as I was caught up with full time work - pregnancies and the like....Alhumdulillah I am not on maternity leave and keen to get back and make up for all the lost time insha'Allah (I know Allah is the best of planners....)

My first issue is I am short on time between my 3.5 year old and 2 month old and all their activites.  I also noted that there have been upgrades and all sorts so I am essentially starting again insha'Allah. PLEASE keep us in your dua and I am grateful for all your inspiring posts which I wil use to motivate us to do whatever we can....

If you have any tips re where I should start with my 3.5 year old or the 2 month old do let me know....

Ayesha Nicole - if you still need help with any of the recordings please let us know - I have my mum in law here till mid March and we are using her to record some stories etc too...

I am planning to post when I can so that I can keep ourselves motivated insha'Allah....

fee amanillah w jazakum Allah for all your efforts and inspiration...

Reshmi - Umm Amani w Adam

[Ayesha Nicole]

Bismillaah

Assalaamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuhu

Maashaa'Allaah, its so lovely hearing the progress of your kids.  I have a question for you,

My daughter has learned around 50% of her arabic alphabet now alhamdulillaah, so should I move on to the next chapter of joining letters or should I keep repeating the alphabet until she has mastered it?

wa 'alaikum as salaam wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh,

Because letters are the foundation for Qur'anic words, I would make sure they master it first, followed by forms / connecting and then tashkeel.  Are you using the Doman schedule to teach the letters, because it only takes 11 days.  Also, I used flashcards and would lay out two cards and ask them to find "baa" and if they found it - lots of hugs and kisses; and if not, then I would point to the correct letter "baa" and say "this is baa", and then ask, "where is taa?",  and they would automatically know which is which; and then lots of hugs and kisses;  I would make a mental note of which letter needs more review and then continue. 

I hope that helps. 

Baraaka Allahu feek.

as salaam 'alaikum,

Ayesha

[Ayesha Nicole]

Assalaamu Alaikum dear all,

OK I have been slacking for a while as I was caught up with full time work - pregnancies and the like....Alhumdulillah I am not on maternity leave and keen to get back and make up for all the lost time insha'Allah (I know Allah is the best of planners....)

My first issue is I am short on time between my 3.5 year old and 2 month old and all their activites.  I also noted that there have been upgrades and all sorts so I am essentially starting again insha'Allah. PLEASE keep us in your dua and I am grateful for all your inspiring posts which I wil use to motivate us to do whatever we can....

If you have any tips re where I should start with my 3.5 year old or the 2 month old do let me know....

Ayesha Nicole - if you still need help with any of the recordings please let us know - I have my mum in law here till mid March and we are using her to record some stories etc too...

I am planning to post when I can so that I can keep ourselves motivated insha'Allah....

fee amanillah w jazakum Allah for all your efforts and inspiration...

Reshmi - Umm Amani w Adam

wa 'alaikum as salaam wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh,

Welcome back!    Alf alf mabrook on the latest edition, masha'Allah!  May Allah (swt) make yours, and our children, the coolness of our eyes, ameen!

Remember to figure out a routine/schedule that works for you and yours - and that is enjoyable.  If you can only do one set of 5 words per day, then it is fine - it is better than nothing.  When I feel overwhelmed with everything I wish I could do, but am unable due for various reasons, I am comforted when thinking of the hadith, "Rasulullah (SAW) said: “The most beloved of deeds to Allah are the most consistent of them, even if they are few.” [Muttafaqun ‘alaihi]"

If you would kindly remind me what your daughter learned, then perhaps I can be more specific; and for your son, there are downloads for babies:  http://forum.brillkids.com/downloads/?cat=69;pg=2;sortby=date;orderby=desc

Ohhh - that is an excellent idea!  I want to make a LR version of this Arabic reader and if she could record the soundclips that would be great! 

http://almashriq.hiof.no/lebanon/400/407/arabic-reader/index.html

and I will contact this organization to see if we can use their materials as well:

http://www.childrenslibrary.org/icdl/SimpleSearchCategory?langid=309

We can also do ahadith, du'a, etc.; but there are already soundclips done for those, alhamdulillah.

Look forward to hearing from you soon, bi ithni Allah.

wa iyaaki. 

as salaam 'alaikum,

Ayesha

[zaku]

Assalaamu Alaikum
my son is confusing fatha and kasrah when used together in a word. he read nicely words with fatha or kasrah only 
I have been explaining him the difference between fatha and kasrah but he still confusing. I dont know what to do i am very sad    and need your help

[Ayesha Nicole]

Assalaamu Alaikum
my son is confusing fatha and kasrah when used together in a word. he read nicely words with fatha or kasrah only 
I have been explaining him the difference between fatha and kasrah but he still confusing. I dont know what to do i am very sad    and need your help

wa 'alaikum as salaam wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh,

How did you teach him fathah and kasrah?  When my children had this issue, I just reviewed those lessons really well until they mastered it.  Do you have flashcards with each letter with each tashkeel?  They are easy to make if you don't - even hand write it out with index cards.  You could even color code the tashkeel to make it easier.  And then lay out two cards - one with fathah and one with kasrah and ask them to find "letter + kasrah" and if they choose the correct one, lots of hugs and kisses, and if they choose the wrong one, then show and say "this is [letter] with kasrah" and then ask them for the other card which they should pick out correctly; and then lots of hugs and kisses; and then ask them again for "letter + kasrah" and they will correctly choose it because it is the only card out; lots of hugs and kisses; and then do another set; keep this up for a little while and stop before they want to stop.  make it a game and then increase to three letters, etc.  start using the cards to spell the words that they are having issues with except mix up the letters, and then put them in the correct order of the word to show them how they appear next to each other.

I hope that helps.

JAK
ASA
Ayesha

[zaku]

Salaam Ayesha
I teach him fatha and kasrah by using a book,but sometimes I write on a note book or on white board to teach him. first learned all the letters then the letters with fatha after that letters with kasrah.... then damma and the letter formations. After learning letter formations we started three letter words with fatha. he got it very easily, but when we started with fatha and kasrah mixed together in a word he got confused. I dont have flash cards    never used flash cars for arabic. Thanks for the ideas an help. I like the idear of color corded tashkeel.
jazakum Allah
salaam

[Ayesha Nicole]

Salaam Ayesha
I teach him fatha and kasrah by using a book,but sometimes I write on a note book or on white board to teach him. first learned all the letters then the letters with fatha after that letters with kasrah.... then damma and the letter formations. After learning letter formations we started three letter words with fatha. he got it very easily, but when we started with fatha and kasrah mixed together in a word he got confused. I dont have flash cards    never used flash cars for arabic. Thanks for the ideas an help. I like the idear of color corded tashkeel.
jazakum Allah
salaam

wa 'alaikum as salaam,

Which book are you using?  Is it for Arabic?  or for tajweed?  if it is for tajweed, do you use professionally recorded soundclips to ensure proper pronunciation?  And what was/is your daily teaching schedule?  And how old is your son? 

It sounds as though either the lessons were too long and/or too fast, because when a student masters the base lessons of:  letter in isolation, forms of letters/connected, letter with each tashkeel (fathah, kasrah, dhammah, tanween), it prevents any confusion when reading three letter words with the tashkeel learned in the previous lessons.

Baraaka Allahu feek.

as salaam 'alaikum,

Ayesha

[zaku]

salaam
the book is for arabic reading by a maldivian sheikh. I am teaching him arabic everyday in the evening for about half an hour. my son is 4y and 9m old.

JAK
ASA

[Ayesha Nicole]

wa 'alaikum as salaam.

Hmmm - here is an image of some flashcards from Malaysia:

http://www.islamicparentingnetwork.com.my/_item?item_id=049001

Just go slow and keep it fun.   

wa iyaaki.

as salaam 'alaikum,

Ayesha

[km276]

ASA Ayesha.

How are the girls progressing with their reading skills? Are they able to read independently?

Hammaad is now able to sight read the sections of Quran he has memorised, but independent reading needs a lot more work.  I am also slightly concerned about the accuracy of his reading skills - if he is sight reading, he often just looks at the letters and ignores the harakaat! At the moment, they teach by talqeen at his hifz school, I play the ayat for him at home and recite them for him, and I have him "read" the section he is memorising.   Would love for him to be able to read independently - as the hifz progresses, there will be less talqeen at school, yet I need to free up some of my time to give my daughter, Safiyya, time for her Quran and I have another baby on the way!

Any tips would be appreciated!

Thanks

Karishma

[Ayesha Nicole]

ASA Ayesha.

How are the girls progressing with their reading skills? Are they able to read independently?

Hammaad is now able to sight read the sections of Quran he has memorised, but independent reading needs a lot more work.  I am also slightly concerned about the accuracy of his reading skills - if he is sight reading, he often just looks at the letters and ignores the harakaat! At the moment, they teach by talqeen at his hifz school, I play the ayat for him at home and recite them for him, and I have him "read" the section he is memorising.   Would love for him to be able to read independently - as the hifz progresses, there will be less talqeen at school, yet I need to free up some of my time to give my daughter, Safiyya, time for her Quran and I have another baby on the way!

Any tips would be appreciated!

Thanks

Karishma

wa 'alaikum as salaam wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatuh,

Masha'Allah!  Great progress   And you will be very busy soon - may Allah (swt) make it easy for you, ameen. 

Alhamdulillah, they do read independently for Qur'an and Arabic books (with most tashkeel).  It is easily accomplished with the modified Noorani method that I use to teach them.  I am unsure what method the hifdh school used to teach him to sight read, which will determine when he will be able to read independently. 

With the Noorani method, when taught by a trained teacher (and not by someone just picking up the book and teaching from it without being trained how to teach each lesson), the student should spell-read every single word, phrase, and sentence/ayat in each lesson.  And most base lessons must be perfected before moving on to the next lesson, and the lessons with exercises are about 80 - 90% proficiency.  Once they complete the book with correct sight reading and recitation, they then move to the mushaaf, and begin spell-reading each ayat, and pronounce the last word with tashkeel and with sukoon, and all applied tajweed rules. However, they don't teach the individual words, and unless the student already knows vocabulary, each line looks like and sounds like one big word.  And they also don't teach any comprehension - it is basically sight reading and memorization only - which goes against what the field of linguistics knows when teaching foreign languages, that meaning aids in memorization.  It is alarming and sad to me that the Qur'anic/tajweed scholars are unaware of modern pedagogical methods for teaching language, and the result is that it produces parrots, with no comprehension - which is actually warned against by early generations. 

However, I found that it is far more effective and efficient to first teach each word in the ayat as in Noorani Lesson 6 (English edition) and pronounce each word with the last tashkeel and any applied tajweed rules within the word itself; and then show an ayat card with double spacing between each word, and have them spell read the connections, as in Noorani Lesson 17, and pronounce the last word in the ayat (or phrase if there is a waqf) with the last tashkeel and with sukoon.  And we also read the English translation for Hilali and Khan because it explains abstract concepts in a more concrete manner, although it is rather verbose.  As they get older, I will switch to Sahih International translation, insha'Allah.  I also created sequencing activities for them to arrange the ayat (the ayat number is covered) and the translation in the proper order - and they recite both the ayat with tajweed, and read aloud the translation to me.  They love this activity because it is hands on and a challenge for them, and with repetition for memorization, they get bored.   

So, yes, my children can spell-read and correctly pronounce most words independently, for both Qur'an and Arabic books with most tashkeel, and our focus in is more on quality of recitation and comprehension, than on quantity.  My husband and I strongly dislike the cramming methods that are used in hifdh schools of 'memorize in 2 years or less'.  So, our progress is slower, but far more comprehensive.

Currently, we are reviewing Juz 'Amma (with their right pointer finger and reciting aloud) daily, along with one page worth of sequencing sets, and then they will recite to a new teacher for mistakes soon.  And then I have to figure out the new schedule because I want to them to benefit from the Islamic Montessori Pre-School/KG classes this year and next year, insha'Allah. 

How did your son learn to sight read?  And what methods do they use in the school for teaching independent reading? 

I hope it helps.   

[km276]

Salaam.

They don't teach them any reading as such at the school we attend - hifz is purely by talqeen (repetition) at this stage, and kids normally learn to read at regular schools here, which they start at age 6  (Hammaad is 4).  They do however, give them simple words to write (which my son reads) that are without tashkeel, so I think he sometimes assumes he doesn't need to pay attention to the tashkeel! I have taught him to read using a variety of methods - he is able to read single words/couplets fine, but we when we go to the mushaf it is not accurate enough.  Having thought about it a bit more, he had a similar problem with English before - he would sight read - which was not always accurate, now that his phonics is better it is as though something has clicked and he can read with accuracy.  I hope the same will happen with Arabic! I guess we will have to spend lots of time practicing in the summer, and I might try the ayah cards you mention.

How do the girls memorise? Do you still use the same technique? I would really like to have Hammaad reading independently to aid his hifz - the school we attend is not a traditional cramming school.  It is a tajweed school with classes for children of mothers at the school. Usually children would leave after completing Hammaads class (they are currently on the 28th juz) but because he is younger they have agreed to let him stay on - so for hifz I will need to do the talqeen for him at home...

JK for your input!

Karishma

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