Need non vaccinating support from other

[cokers4life]

We have been battle a virus all week and Micah's (my youngest) got it on Friday.  His condition became worse last night and now he has been admitted to the hospital with pneumonia.  Now I am being lectured by my in laws that I need to vaccinate as if that is why he ended up pneumonia.  I just need prayers and support.

[waterdreamer]

Perhaps kindly asking them to keep their opinions to themselves would be all they need to realize the have overstepped the line.
We have decided to not vaccine our youngest after my oldest had a reaction to his 18month shots and stopped talking the very next day.

[Tamsyn]

I'm sorry!  We are not vaccinating as well.  I have a dear friend who did YBCR, and after a shot she stopped reading.  She knew then that the vaccine was responsible, and it was very frustrating because the doctors didn't believe there was something wrong.  She went from an articulate speaker and early reader to a typical toddler overnight.  She was cranky and irritable as well.  It was a serious thing, and it took very serious diet changes to help her overcome it, but luckily she was able to recover and get her abilities back.  My brothers had very, very serious reactions to vaccines.  I'm not going there.

My inlaws were shocked when they heard that we weren't vaxing, but after they heard my brother's story, they were willing to look at think twice.com.  They still don't agree, but they do respect our choice now.  I agree that ultimately it's none of their business, but as grandparents they do have a more vested interest in the children than most and for the sake of family relationships I think it best to acknowledge their concerns.  They need to acknowledge yours too and respect your decision and authority.  I recommend giving them a little homework to help them understand where you are coming from.

Sending prayers to your sick child.

[Skylark]

So sorry, cokers4life, praying for your little one! And hope he is better soon. I know it is not easy, but you've done the best informed parent choice.

Kids get sick, -- both vaccinated and unvaccinated. There are simply more complications and more risks in case child is vaccinated ( that is why we do not vaccinate as well). It is not easy in either case, to see your LO being ill.

It is difficult to have in-laws questioning your choices, I am praying for your strength and wisdom. In our case we are lucky, both my husband's and mine parents were educated enough to not vaccinate us, so they are really supportive of our choices regarding our children. My mom is a medical scientist, member of the National Academy of Sciences and most of her colleagues ( immunologists including) do not vaccinate. My parents managed to protect me from most vaccinations in a country which back at the time of me growing up did not give many choices to the parents, they were simply too informed to risk my health.

I know it is difficult and demoralizing to face opposition -- but it will pass and in a long run, you will be thankful you made right choices for your children. Let us know how it is going!

[waterdreamer]

*Hugs* Forgot to mention I'm praying for your LO

[cokers4life]

Thanks guys.  My Lo is doing well with the treatments.  He is even eating. I just glad to vent here instead of elsewhere.   I know they mean well.  I just don't know if I can hold my tongue if another doctor comes in and looks at their chart and asks "so you don't vaccinate?"  Yes, you and the last ten people read your chart correctly.  Give yourself an A in reading.   I feel like they are waiting on me to explain myself or change my mind but I never do.  It would be in vain to explain myself to a doctor.  They know more than me. 

[TRexMom]

Stay strong! You are the parents, & even if it could e unequivocally proven that the lack of vaccine allowed him to become sick, it is still your right to decide to take that risk. This is no different than allowing your child to get in a car with a friend's mom or buying his a skateboard...he might get hurt in any case, but he probably won't &, if he does, he'll probably be okay!

Our son (a preemie) received a couple of shots...before he was "ours" legally. In one case, the pediatrician flat-out LIED to me. In another, she basically threatened not to sign his medical for the adoption agency if I did not allow a pneumonia shot. Stupidly, I allowed it. My son's leg swelled to the size of his waist, & my happy little bundle degenerated into a red-faced screamer for 3 solid days. (Thankfully, that was the worst of it!) After that, I found a new doc for him. I still get automated calls from the pediatrics clinic reminding me that our son (2) is overdue for his 12month vaccines! HAHA! They are relentless! I have called repeatedly and told them he is no longer their patient.

One thing we have started to do recently is to just "circle the wagons". We just made a decision to keep our family life (mostly) inside the family. With the exception of discussions with like-minded families (like here), we just don't talk much about early learning, vaccines, our fairly conservative Christian practices, etc. Our son's health, happiness & actions speak for themselves. People still "know" we are "weird", but they really have nothing to nag or gossip about. And before anyone asks...NO, we are not ashamed or "trying to hide something". We just decided that not everyone needs to know our business. Now, the more our son talks, I am sure he will talk about his "picture cards" or whatever. That is just fine with us. I can't imagine even the snippiest of old bitty relatives coming down on a two year old that knows the difference between a zebra & an okapi!

[Drjuliadc]

Prayers to you.  My husband and I are both chiropractors. We don't vaccinate either but we have a very supportive family mainly because of years of me educating myself, then them, long before we had children.  I think it would be harder otherwise, but we would still not vaccinate.

Know that they do mean well, but unvaccinated children are much healthier overall.  In chiropractic college, those students whose parents were chiropractors and had never been vaccinated and had been adjusted all their lives never got sick with much of anything.  It was a stark contrast to those of us who grew up conventionally.  Not many people have the advantage of knowing a large group of unvaccinated people.  It was eye opening and it makes it much easier to be convicted about it.

There is so much money spent to convince everyone that vaccines are the most wonderful things, that I don't blame anyone for buying it.  If you have a big enough advertising budget you can fool all of the people all of the time.

We found a pediatrician who is OK with us not vaccinating.  That helps tremendously.  Most of your local chiropractors will know which pediatricians to direct you to.

This won't help you immediately, but Ted Koren D.C. has great info on why not to vaccinate, explained simply.  I also love the DVD by Sheri Tenpenny called Vaccines.

[bella]

i didn't vaccinate mine and i am proud to say they are the healthiest kids among their friends . i just got this on my face book page today : http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2013/02/04/multiple-vaccine-doses-have-resulted-in-up-to-145000-child-deaths-in-past-20-years/

xxx
viv

[elmo0209]

We don't vaccinate either. My 2 yo is extremely happy and healthy.
I would NEVER inject those chemicals onto her!
If your family asks again mention to them that the Doctors and Pharmaceutical companies have zero liability if your child gets injured from a vaccine.

If the Doctors mention it again, ask them to sign a Document guaranteeing that your child WOULD NOT have any side effects, mild or serious! Haha they will change the topic of the conversation REAL quickly!

I drew up my own document for my daughters pediatrician to sign when they were pushing the vaccinations. Of course they wouldn't sign it and they haven't brought up the topic since then!

[elmo0209]

A article from USA today regarding the flu shot! Sudy from Dec 2012-Jan 2013.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2013/02/21/flu-vaccine-doesnt-work-over-65/1934651/

"When broken into age groups, the vaccine's overall effectiveness was:
6 months to 17 years, 58%.
18 to 49 years, 46%.
50 to 64 years, 50%.
65 and older, 9%."

58% is sure not enough protection to convince me that my daughter needs those toxic chemicals!

[waterdreamer]

We don't vaccinate either. My 2 yo is extremely happy and healthy.
I would NEVER inject those chemicals onto her!
If your family asks again mention to them that the Doctors and Pharmaceutical companies have zero liability if your child gets injured from a vaccine.

If the Doctors mention it again, ask them to sign a Document guaranteeing that your child WOULD NOT have any side effects, mild or serious! Haha they will change the topic of the conversation REAL quickly!

I drew up my own document for my daughters pediatrician to sign when they were pushing the vaccinations. Of course they wouldn't sign it and they haven't brought up the topic since then!

That is so smart! I'll have to remember that.

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