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« on: December 05, 2008, 03:06:35 PM »

Have any of you heard about raw/living food recipes?  I don't know much about it... just heard of it today.  Do any of you know anything about the raw/living food "diet"? (it's not a diet to loose weight or anything, just a way of eating, I guess.)

I'm interested in finding some of these recipes that would be good for a toddler/kids.  Any ideas? 

Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2008, 03:26:02 PM »

I don't really think I know what you're talking about...I've never heard of recipes or things.

When our guy was about 9 months old we bought raw goat's milk (unpasteurized) for him to drink because it's supposed to be a lot better for him. You can read about it at rawmilk.org, I believe.

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 06:27:56 PM »

my daughter drinks raw cows milk
and we always have lots of raw veggies
not sure about raw/living food recipes


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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 06:37:02 PM »

my daughter drinks raw cows milk



Do they sell raw milk in the stores where you live? In Texas they have so many regulations and it can't be sold in the stores.

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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2008, 01:14:40 AM »

Apparently, raw or living foods have about 50%+ more nutrients than cooked foods.  Additionally, I read that living foods have important enzymes that help out body digest things better, and without them the nutrients in food may simply pass through us.  I know from biology that when you heat/cook something, it destroys many nutrients and that is why you should avoid reheating food multiple times.  So this concept makes sense to me.  I've also heard that pasteurizing and other processing kills essential vitamins, minerals, enzymes, etc. too.  As does, cutting, boiling (leeches nutrients into the water), and exposure to air and light. 

I've done a google search and found the living-foods.com website, which seems to have some good information about the topic.  I assume that it would be in my daughter's best interest to see that she gets as much nutrition in the food she eats as possible, and that this could only aid in her ability to learn.  So I'm trying to find some good, yummy recipes that a toddler can and will eat.  Many raw foods are to tough to chew or might pose a choking hazard, so these recipes and ideas are hard to find. 



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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2008, 02:22:21 AM »

I agree that in general raw foods are the best nutritional bang for your buck  But, please keep in mind that milk is pasteurized for safety. Especially for young children.  My MIL lives on a ranch in Montana and when my son was 1.5 yrs old she gave him unpasteurized goats milk and he became very ill (along with everyone else who drank it).  My brother in law threw up roughly 30 times in one night. Blaise couldn't keep anything down and nearly had to be hospitalized. Raw milk can carry diseases like Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria. Here is what the FDA has to say about it: http://www.foodsafety.gov/~dms/rawmilk.html. Please just keep in mind that although raw vegies, nuts, fruits and other foods may be good unpasteurized milk can be dangerous or deadly.

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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2008, 03:46:42 AM »

I agree that pasteurization is for our health and safety, and that of the population as a whole.  I understand there are benefits to it and know there are dangers if it does not occur- even in O.J.!  (I heard in the news awhile back that there was a widespread illness caused by unpasteurized OJ.) 

But let me now play a little "devil's advocate" (wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_advocate) - because I want to point out that there is another point of view on this, where it is believed that unpasteurized or natural milk is safe.  I don't know the facts and if it is true, but the following is an excerpt from www.realmilk.com :

"Pasteurization destroys enzymes, diminishes vitamin content, denatures fragile milk proteins, destroys vitamins C, B12 and B6, kills beneficial bacteria, promotes pathogens and is associated with allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer. Calves fed pasteurized milk do poorly and many die before maturity. Raw milk sours naturally but pasteurized milk turns putrid; processors must remove slime and pus from pasteurized milk by a process of centrifugal clarification. Inspection of dairy herds for disease is not required for pasteurized milk. Pasteurization was instituted in the 1920s to combat TB, infant diarrhea, undulant fever and other diseases caused by poor animal nutrition and dirty production methods. But times have changed and modern stainless steel tanks, milking machines, refrigerated trucks and inspection methods make pasteurization absolutely unnecessary for public protection. And pasteurization does not always kill the bacteria for Johne’s disease suspected of causing Crohn's disease in humans with which most confinement cows are infected. Much commercial milk is now ultra-pasteurized to get rid of heat-resistant bacteria and give it a longer shelf life. Ultra-pasteurization is a violent process that takes milk from a chilled temperature to above the boiling point in less than two seconds. Clean raw milk from certified healthy cows is available commercially in several states and may be bought directly from the farm in many more."

And a quote from someone else: "I think the answer is, make sure you know where your raw milk is coming from. And, if all cows were treated properly, milk wouldn't need to be pasteurized."

I suppose this is much like the vaccine debate and many other related topics, stemming from a distrust of modern methods and the big overseeing committees.  I struggle to decide what the best thing is, but I'm also cautious and wary to go against the norm when it comes to health and safety.  I try to get both sides of the story, but it is so difficult to determine what is right.  Just because we think we "know" something based off scientific evidence, doesn't necessarily mean that it is accurate- think of the world that believed the earth was flat, or the scientists that just knew that sperm contained tiny complete humans (instead of genes that created cells that divided, etc.).  There may be a lot we don't know. 

Nonetheless, I agree that everyone should stay safe!  Right now, the general consensus is that pasteurization is one of those things that keeps us safe!

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2008, 08:05:41 PM »

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i live in mexico where i buy organic grass fed raw milk at the local heath food store
by your name i assume you live in texas
if so there are a number of places you can buy raw milk
i am not sure where you live so here is a small list hope this helps
this list is just what i found online
i am sure there are many more farms selling real milk
as far as the safety of raw milk i posted quite a bit about it in a different discussion

 Abbott: Nors Dairy is state certified with a "Grade A" retail raw milk permit. This is a family operation milking jersey and jersey cross "grass fed" cows. James and Cathy Nors have been in the dairy business since 1980 and sell raw milk by the gallon. To schedule a pickup call (254) 744-2172 or (254) 582-8440. Located 60 miles south of the DFW area and 25 miles north of Waco on IH 35. Additional milk and farm products will be added at a later date. Email: [email protected]  . Website: http://www.norsrawmilk.com/

 Abernathy: Albert Pereira, (806)518-9081, [email protected] . Grass based dairy with a small herd
of Jerseys and Brown Swiss cows. All natural; they don't feed any soy products. Raw milk through a cow share program. They also offer cream and cheese.

  Alvin: 45 Farms, 5825 County Road 182, Alvin, Texas 77511. [email protected] . (713) 261-6409, 30 minutes south of Houston. Sells raw milk from a family herd of grass-fed Jersey cows and eggs from free roaming chickens NO anitbotics or hormones are used. They plan to add cheese.

  Alvin (south of Houston): Proverbs Farm, a small milk/show goat herd frequently has raw or pasteurized milk available for cheese- and soapmaking. E-mail [email protected] for milk availability and directions. Web site: www.proverbsfarm.com/.

  Amarillo/Canyon: Heritage Dairy Farm, 9951 Country Club Rd., Canyon, Texas. Real fresh whole milk (no added hormones, un-pasteurized) is available through cow share program. Real fresh milk is available at all times. Jersey and Jersey cross cows are pastured. Raw milk cheeses and natural beef (no hormones, no antibiotics) coming very soon. Call (806) 655-6900 or e-mail at [email protected] .

  Big Sandy: Trimble Dairy Farm, They have fresh, clean Jersey Cows milk for sale. Sold as pet milk with no antibiotics or hormones and heavy cream by the gallon fresh or frozen. Soon to be grade A raw for retail. They currently milk four nice Jersey cows. Call or e-mail Bobby Trimble at [email protected] and (903) 576-0393 for more information.

   Blue Ridge: (40 miles Northeast of Dallas) 11033 CR 574. Zenubi Creek Farm. Family owned and operated. They have a small herd of healthy Nubians and a happy, healthy flock of free-range chickens. They offer from the farm, fresh/frozen raw goat milk, Artesian Cheeses, farm fresh eggs, and some wonderful goat milk soaps that are made here at the farm. They are also involved in a seed share program to encourage the propagation of flowering plants for honeybees. Contact (214) 592-2252 or email [email protected] with "real-milk" in the subject line. They milk from March - December.

  Bridgeport (Wise County):Truckin' Blues (member ADGA) has a small herd of Nubian dairy goats and offers fresh raw goat's milk. The goats are healthy and content. They do not feed antibiotics, steroids or hormones. Contact: Tami Shepard at (940) 210-8280 or [email protected] . Located approximately 12 miles south of Bridgeport, TX. Please call for further information or to arrange for pick up (or just to come out and meet the "ladies").

   Bryan and College Station: WaterOak Farms, Mark & Pam Burow, located in the woods North of Bryan/College Station, Texas (979) 279-2373, www.dairygoathaven.com. Grade A Raw Milk (fluid and frozen). Licensed since 1998, whole milk ricotta Cheese, yogurt, ice cream (48 flavors): their ice cream was named #5 of the top 10 desserts in Austin, Texas in 2003, Austin Chronicle newspaper. Cameron: Sand Creek Farm, 1552 CR 267,  

 Cameron, TX 76520. Licensed, Raw, Grass-Fed Only Cow milk, grass fed beef, soy free pastured eggs, butter, cheese, yogurt, kefir and non-certified organically grown produce. The First Licensed Grade A Raw for Retail Cow Milk Dairy in Texas. Share the drive with a group in your area. The farm is located less than an hours drive from Bryan/College Station - Temple/Belton - Waco - Killeen/Copperas Cove * ~2 1/2 hours from DFW & Houston. Visit their website: www.SandCreekFarm.net . Phone: (254) 697-2927, e-mail: [email protected] or [email protected] .

  Cleburne (southwest of DFW in Johnson county): All Natchur-L Dairy Farm is licensed to sell Grade A raw cow milk. They plan to add more products. Please call ahead for directions and orders as they have milk available at all times upon request. (817) 645-5198, [email protected] .

  Cleveland (North of Houston): Lonesome Doe Nubians has been supplying raw and pasteurized goat milk to the area for 18 years. Their milk makes local Cajeta, milksoap, and cheese. A small milk and show herd. Call (281) 592-6914 , or email [email protected] or [email protected] , with "Real Milk" in the subject line. They milk from March through December.

  Cleveland (Tarkington Prairie) Little Dairy on the Prairie. Raw goat's milk for sale, fresh or frozen. (281) 622-9973 or e-mail Allison [email protected] with "real milk" in subject line.

  Coldspring (north of Houston): Pomona Farm, Raw Jersey cow's milk for sale. Small family farm was previously certified organic by the state of Texas. Compost grown fruits and vegetables available in season. Email [email protected] , website: http://irina100.tripod.com/.

  Collinsville: R & C Dairy and Farmstead, Rocky and Carol, 40 Crossroads Road, Collinsville, TX 76233. Phone: (903) 429-2319. Email: [email protected] . Website: http://www.randcdairy.com. State- certified, Grade A raw milk dairy. Goat milk, jersey milk, kefir, yogurt, buttermilk, goat milk butter, jersey butter, fresh goat cheese, etc. Also offer goat meat and beef, goat milk soap, eggs and gift baskets. Please see their website for more details.

  Conroe: Texas Findley Follies Farm offers raw goat milk, yogurt, and kefir to the Conroe, Woodlands, Kingwood, and North Houston areas. Contact [email protected] or (281) 686-5925.
 
 Crockett: 48 miles N.N.E. of Huntsville. Hilltop dairy. Email [email protected] . Raw goats' milk and products available through the community goat share program. Goats are low butter fat Saanens fed on fresh grass, high quality alfafa hay, beet pulp, corn, oats, cotton seed meal, sunflower seed and unmedicated (un-doctered) high protein pellets. They have Milk, Feta Cheese and High content mineral and protien Whea. Also, pastured farm fresh brown eggs. They also have meat goats and a weight loss program. . (936) 544-2004.

  Dallas/ Ft. Worth: Flower Mound, Agape Oaks Nigerian Dwarfs. Pam Ebert (214) 435-2020, [email protected] , www.agapeoaks.com . Small herd of nigerian dwarfs with fresh or frozen milk available. Grade A raw for retail license . Small herd of mostly Nigerian Dwarf goats & milk year around. Raw milk and occasionally yogurt for human consumption.

  Dallas/Ft. Worth (Azle): A2Z Dairy Goats is a small herd of dairy goats, milked March through December. Frozen milk available year around ; contact them for availability: Rod and Sondra Peterson, [email protected] , (817) 270- 8528 .

  Dallas/Ft. Worth (Grandview): Utterly Divine Dairy, 8377 East FM916, Grandview, TX 76050 (817) 825-4357. Located 30 minutes south of Fort Worth and within easy reach of the DFW Metroplex. Raw goat milk from certified disease-free herd. E-mail [email protected] or visit the website at www.utterlydivine.com.

  Dallas/Fort Worth/Greenville: Good Earth Farm LLC, 8629 FM 272, Celeste TX 75423, http://www.goodearthorganicfarm.com, (903) 496-2070. Grade A Raw goat milk, pasture raised lamb and chevon (goat meat), free-range eggs from hens on pasture, pasture raised chicken and turkey, organically grown vegetables and some fruit. Visit the website for more details and current availability.

  Dallas/Ft. Worth/McKinney (Windom): Willow Tree Jerseys, 277 County Road 2970, Windom, TX 75492. Pat Hunstiger (903) 227-8416. State certified raw Jersey milk on pasture. Milk available in traditional gallon or half-gallon jugs. 50 miles NE of McKinney.

  Dallas/Fort Worth/Waco: La Cuesta Farm, 6383 FM 56 Clifton, (254) 622-2751, [email protected] , www.lacuestafarm.com. Non-pasteurized Grade A Raw goat milk and pasteurized goat cheese.

  Dayton-Liberty (Tarkington Prairie) Little Dairy on the Prairie. Raw goat's milk for sale, fresh or frozen. (281) 622-9973 or e-mail Allison [email protected] with "real milk" in the subject line.

  Dayton:Green Acres Goat Farm. Family owned and operated farm provides free range brown chicken eggs, meat goats, show goats and frozen raw goats milk from nubians for soap, cheese, yogurt, lotions, or anything you want to use it for! Please email [email protected] for availability or call (713) 240-4351. Put "real milk" in the subject line. www.greenacresgoatsfarm.com

  Edom: Leche de Tejas Goat Dairy, 10471 FM 279, one of the few licensed goat dairies in Texas selling Grade A Raw and Pasteurized Goat Milk, owned and operated by Alan and Charlene Callicoat. They are 20 miles west of Tyler, 22 miles east of Canton in Edom, Texas. Visit the farm for fresh cheeses, milk and fabulous goat milk soap. (903)852-5006 or (903)372-1113. http://www.lechedetejas.net.

  Giddings:Serbin Ziegen, Dennis & Carol Sander,2541 CR 217 Giddings, TX 78942, (979) 366-2461, [email protected] . Goat's milk available. Occasionally has Goat Milk Soap. Free range chicken eggs and seasonal vegetables also available.

  Granbury: (30 miles southwest of Fort Worth on HWY 377): Star of Texas Creamery is now a State Permitted Grade A facility selling raw goat's milk by the quart or gallon container. All Nubian herd is disease free and graze on ten acres of their land. Milk pickup at the farm only. Call or email first for availability and scheduled pickup times. Member ADGA, INBA.The Hughes Family at 7720 Glen Rose Hwy. Granbury, TX. (817) 279-8959. [email protected] visit us online at www.texasnubians.com (under construction).

  Greenville (45 miles northeast of Dallas), Rehoboth Ranch, 2238 County Road 1081, Greenville, Texas 75401, Phone (903) 450-8145, email [email protected] , website www.rehobothranch.com. Robert and Nancy Hutchins and their 12 children own and operate this 300 acre organic farm and ranch, a Grade A Raw Goat Milk Dairy, with grass-fed beef and lamb, pastured chicken and pork, and eggs from free- ranging hens. Milk is available for sale from the ranch only per the state regulations. Please email or call for availability. Grass fed and pastured meats and eggs, plus cheese and jerky is available at the Dallas Farmers Market each Friday and Saturday, 9am - 4 pm, year round. Ranch store is open Monday - Saturday, 9am - 5pm. Please call before you come.

  Hawkins: Fair Meadow Farm Goat Dairy, John & Carol Pinckard, 226 County Road 3819 Hawkins, Texas 75765. Phone: (903) 769-4980, website: www.fairmeadowfarm.com. State Licensed Grade A Raw for Retail Dairy, family owned and operated. Nubian goats are rotationally grazed on their meadow. No pesticides, insecticides, herbicides, antibiotics or chemicals. All goats are registered with the American Dairy Goat Assoc. Milk is available fresh and frozen. Yogurt is also available on a limited basis. They also offer handcrafted goat milk soaps. Goat kids are occasionally available.

  Houston: Anala Goat Company and Earth Mother Farms, contact: Roy and Linda Atkinson, (281) 343-5991, members only pre-orders: [email protected] , raw goat and cow milk, raw goat's milk chevre, feta, kefir and whey, one of 13 licensed raw dairies in Texas, 50 southwest of Houston. Website: www.analagoatcompany.com.

  Houston/ Tomball:Gramen Natural Farms, Theresa, 20158 Bauer Hockley Rd, Tomball, TX 77377. Phone: (281) 642- 4937; Email: [email protected] ; Website: www.GramenFarm.com . Fresh goat milk.

  Houston: For those wanting raw milk and good food; Houston Milk & Native Nutrition Club starting. Visit http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HoustonRaw/.

  Houston: Visit the Houston Milk Club at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/houstonmilkclub/

  Houston: Visit the discussion group for the Houston Texas area for raw milk: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/houstonrealmilk

  Houston (North): See Cleveland TX listing, above.

  Houston: The Houston Organic List discusses all things natural and organic in the greater Houston area including where to find raw milk & other dairy products (cow and goat), fresh eggs, local organic farms, farmer's markets, natural food co-ops, etc. Some members participate in alternating their trips to local farms ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HoustonOrganic

  Huntsville: see Riverside.



 

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2008, 08:06:29 PM »

  Keller: Homestead Farms, 4072 Keller Hicks Road Michael Farris (817) 307-5847, [email protected] . www.homestead-farms.net . Suppliers of raw and pasteurized goats milk, cheese and ice cream, Free range eggs, produce and meats availibe in season.

  Kingsbury: Twelve Gates is a small, family operated, goat dairy in the Austin/San Antonio area. They offer raw cheese and milk. Contact them Sun.-Fri. at [email protected] . Ask questions and tell them what you would like to see them offer!! Thanks for supporting REAL MILK!! The Willhoite Family.

   Lampasas: Bradley Farm, 1046 BCR 111, Lou Bradley, (512) 556-3109, [email protected] . Raw goat milk and cheese. Call or email before coming.

  Lockhart: Three Does Farm, Robyn Gammill, [email protected] . Fresh, delicious raw French Alpine goat milk, AVAILABLE THROUGH GOAT SHARE PROGRAM. Delicious free-range eggs. Please e-mail with 'Real Milk' in the subject line.

 Lorena: Crystal Creek Farms located at 810 S. Frontage Road Lorena, TX 76655 is starting a Cow Share Program licensed by the state of Texas to sell whole raw milk at the farm. This milk is from a small herd of young registered Jersey cows whom are organically fed with grains and grasses mixed on site. These cows are also pastured in green fields eating green grass. Milk testing is performed monthly, through Stephenville guaranteeing the highest quality of milk possible. Hand Churned butter and cream also available. The farm is operated by Ben and Debbie Glinsmann. E-mail [email protected] or call (254) 857-9178.

 McDade: Evan's Farm, 427 Herron Trail, Jason and Amy Tiemann, (512) 321-5892. Raw milk from grass-fed Jersey cows.


 Nacogdoches/Carthage/Shelby County (Timpson): Texadus Family Farm runs a small herd of LaMancha & Mini La Mancha dairy goats. Goats milk, fresh farm eggs, and seasonal produce available. They usually milk year round. Harold and Lynn Jones, [email protected] or (936) 615-3050 (leave a message with your phone number).

 New Braunfels: Ragels Ziegenhof, 2850 Bunker ST, Claudia Ragels, (830) 620 5980, [email protected] , drinkgoatsmilk.com. They have a small Nubian herd, and sell their fresh Raw Goat milk for animal use.

 New Caney (15 minutes North of Houston Intercontinental Airport. Next to Kingwood): Hammond Farm, 23652 James St., New Caney, Texas 77357 Cell# (832) 298-4161. They offer raw milk and farm fresh goat milk soap. People Tested; Goat Approved, tm. e-mail: [email protected] , website: www.hammondfarm.com

 Riverside (Near Huntsville): Phil Riggs, [email protected] , (936) 661-3664. They have a small herd of registered Nubians, with milk and soap for sale. They will begin making cheese this fall. Also farm fresh eggs.
 www.stardatenubians.com. They are located in the north east corner of Walker County, about 15 miles north of Huntsville.

 Rusk: Able Oaks Ranch, (903) 530-1009. Email: [email protected] . Raw and pasteurized goats milk and farmstead cheese available through community goat share program. Goat milk and colostrum available for pets and soap-making occasionally. Call in advance for pick-up and directions to the farm.

 Saint Jo, Montague County: PO Box 250 Saint Jo,Texas 76265, phone: (940) 987-3033, Roger and Summer Nunneley, offering raw goats milk and fresh free range eggs. [email protected]

 Schulenburg: (Halfway between San Antonio and Houston and an hour Southeast of Austin): Stryk Jersey Farm, 629 Krenek Stryk Road @ Interstate 10, Schulenburg, Tx 78956. Pastured, grass-fed Jersey cows since 1950 and family farm is transitional organic. Grade A - Raw Milk for Retail (TX Permit # H480316) to provide fresh milk and other raw milk products straight from the cow to you. Website www.texascheese.com or call (979) 561-8468.

 Seguin: Everything Jesus Ranch Dairy, 12060 FM 466, Seguin, Texas 78155, Pastor Gina, (830) 379-9700 or 491-8557 or 491-8893. www.genesischristianchurch.org . Licensed by the State of Texas as a raw milk hand milking dairy! Jersey cow milk by gallons, yogurt, soft cheese with herbs, and butter.

 Sulphur Springs: Remember When Dairy, Mark Ganske, 903-810-7153, [email protected] , certified raw dairy selling raw milk and butter, also selling low temperature pasteurized, non-homogenized milk, yogurt and butter. pastured cows with minimal grain fed at milking. call for more information and directions.

 Texarkana: Rose of Sharon Acres, 3907 CR 1202 N, Maud, Texas - (903) 585-5113. Small family run ADGA Nubian herd 25 minutes from Texarkana will supply raw milk for pets and soap use. No hormonoes or antibiotics. Organic heirloom veges in season as well as fresh eggs. See www.roseofsharonacres.com for availibility of kids and goat milk products.

 Tyler: Leche de Tejas Goat Dairy, 10471 FM 279, one of the few licensed goat dairies in Texas selling Grade A Raw Goat Milk, owned and operated by Alan and Charlene Callicoat. They are 20 miles west of Tyler, 22 miles east of Canton in Edom, Texas. Visit the farm for fresh cheeses, milk and fabulous goat milk soap. (903) 852-5006 or (903) 372-1113. http://www.leche-de-tejas-goat-dairy.com

 Waco: Greenock Farms, (254)836-0698. Small family homestead offering raw cow (Jersey) and goat (Nubian) milk. They also make available dairy products such as: butter, buttermilk, sour cream, yogurt, mozzarella & ricotta.

 Waco: World Hunger Relief Farm is located at 356 Spring Lake Rd, Waco, TX 76705. (254) 799-5611 They have a small state-certified Grade A Raw Goat Milk Dairy and sell raw goat milk. They also sell free-range eggs and offer farm-fresh vegetables through their Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) membership program. World Hunger Relief, Inc. is a Christian organization committed to the alleviation of hunger around the world. Their farm operations, including the goat dairy, serve as a classroom for their Agriculture Development Interns who are training to work with farmers and communities in the developing world. In purchasing their products you are supporting development efforts around the world! For more information, visit www.worldhungerrelief.org

 Waller (NW of Houston): Swede Farm, LeeAnne Carlson, phone (936) 931-1863, email [email protected] . Goats milk, farm eggs, raw honey and seasonal farm produce such as veggies and herbs.

 Wichita Falls: Mesquite Creek Farm, Wichita Falls, Texas. Raw Goat's milk available from a small herd of Alpines. Goat's Milk Lotion and Soaps (scented with essential oils and naturally colored) are also available: www.mesquite-creek.com or (940) 613-2180

 Winnsboro: Jersey Girls Milk Company, A small family dairy presently milking approximately 150 Jersey cows, 20 of which are qualified for raw (unpasteurized) milk sales. Cows are pastured (not confined) and have never been given rBST or rBGH. They receive nominal amounts of feed concentrate twice daily while being milked. The remainder of their diet consists of grazing and seasonal forages harvested locally and baled and/or ensiled. Farm is located near Winnsboro, Texas and is approximately 1 hour north of Tyler and 2 hours east of Dallas. They welcome visitors and are glad to discuss operations with anyone interested. Please visit the website at
www.jerseygirlsmilk.com. Telephone (903) 365-2449 for hours, directions to the farm, current pricing, or if you have questions.

 Zavalla: JnK Farms, 21 miles south of Lufkin, (936) 897-8310, [email protected] . They are a small farm with a few registered Nubian goats. RAW Goats milk, a variety of Goat Cheese, Kefir and yogurt. ON the farm they hand make Goat's milk soap and lotions and other skin care products, gift baskets available. They also offer goat meat and beef and Farm fresh Free Range eggs.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 01:20:19 AM »

I agree that in general raw foods are the best nutritional bang for your buck  But, please keep in mind that milk is pasteurized for safety. Especially for young children.  My MIL lives on a ranch in Montana and when my son was 1.5 yrs old she gave him unpasteurized goats milk and he became very ill (along with everyone else who drank it).  My brother in law threw up roughly 30 times in one night. Blaise couldn't keep anything down and nearly had to be hospitalized. Raw milk can carry diseases like Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria. Here is what the FDA has to say about it: http://www.foodsafety.gov/~dms/rawmilk.html. Please just keep in mind that although raw vegies, nuts, fruits and other foods may be good unpasteurized milk can be dangerous or deadly.

But then you have to think--milk hasn't been pasteurized for that long. How did my grandfather and grandmother stay healthy when they grew up on a farm? I know lots of homeschool families around my area who own local dairies and their kids drink completely unpasteurized milk...and they're so healthy!!

I think the point is to know where your food is coming from--whether it is from the store or a goat at a local dairy. Even commercially-made, super-restricted and enforced formula can harm your child (with the recent contamination), so you've really got to weigh your options!!

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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2008, 03:51:47 AM »

But then you have to think--milk hasn't been pasteurized for that long. How did my grandfather and grandmother stay healthy when they grew up on a farm? I know lots of homeschool families around my area who own local dairies and their kids drink completely unpasteurized milk...and they're so healthy!!

I think the point is to know where your food is coming from--whether it is from the store or a goat at a local dairy. Even commercially-made, super-restricted and enforced formula can harm your child (with the recent contamination), so you've really got to weigh your options!!

Good points texaslady22, and well put.  I find it so difficult to decide what would be best for us.  I don't think that the way things are done is the best way, but I'd hate to give my daughter unpasteurized milk and then see her get sick!  I would feel awful!  Know what I mean?  I guess if she gets sick from pasteurized stuff, that I would feel that it's a fluke, but otherwise, I'd see at as my fault.  Ugh.  So tough to figure out!

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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2008, 05:40:14 AM »

there is a lot of information online two great sites are
http://www.rawmilk.org/
http://www.realmilk.com/

before we started raw milk my daughter was very small and in good but not great health
once we started her on organic grass fed raw milk the difference in her health was incredible
she was on raw milk for a whole year and was not sick a day
i have been back in the US now for one month and she has been drinking organic pasteurized milk for this month
in this last month she has lost weight, been sick twice, had trouble sleeping and has had low energy
her diet has not changed at all
she still never has sugar or white flour
any way it is a hard decision to make but i am very happy we will be home soon and back to real milk


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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2008, 10:25:53 PM »

there is a lot of information online two great sites are
http://www.rawmilk.org/
http://www.realmilk.com/

before we started raw milk my daughter was very small and in good but not great health
once we started her on organic grass fed raw milk the difference in her health was incredible
she was on raw milk for a whole year and was not sick a day
i have been back in the US now for one month and she has been drinking organic pasteurized milk for this month
in this last month she has lost weight, been sick twice, had trouble sleeping and has had low energy
her diet has not changed at all
she still never has sugar or white flour
any way it is a hard decision to make but i am very happy we will be home soon and back to real milk


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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2008, 05:32:46 AM »

there's a book called RAWvolultion that is very good, and i believe there's one by Juliano called Raw: the Uncookbook.

both are really great.

i am not a raw foodist, but my husband and i do eat a lot of raw foods (we also eat a lot of cooked foods. our dairy is also raw dairy (butter, yogurt, cheese, and milk--which is legal to sell here in PA).

a friend of ours runs a raw food cafe, and we love to eat her food! we go there about every 6 weeks or so (it is expensive!), and it's wonderful. she loaned us these two cookbooks and we dug out our favorite recipes.

my husband loves juliano. here is juliano's web site: http://www.planetraw.com/

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