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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2010, 10:47:49 PM »

It sounds like, at least for now, your boy may be more of a tactile-kinesthetic learner than your girls were.  Many toddlers start out very tactile then shift to aural or visual as their primary learning style.  About 15 % of the population remains primarily tactile-kinesthetic into adulthood.  I read a really great article on this, but forgot to bookmark it.  As I recall the shift took place for most children about the same time elementary school starts, but I could be mistaken.  It could be later for boys than girls too.  Unfortunately most schools don’t spend much time directed toward people with this learning style.  Here is the best link I could find on short notice http://www.pesdirect.com/lsitactile.html

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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2010, 11:22:34 PM »

Another good article on gender learning here http://www.ascd.org/publications/educational-leadership/sept06/vol64/num01/Teaching-to-the-Minds-of-Boys.aspx

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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2010, 07:18:09 PM »

Thanks, Twinergy. Interesting stuff. Of course, I'm always hesitant to pigeon hole any child, boy or girl... the science nonwithstanding.  Wink

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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2010, 02:44:46 PM »

This gender learning discussion reminded me of my school years.
 From the first grade we  girls were better studends, always active and participating in discussions,
and the boys were mostly playing, running, fighting and had to be disciplined!
But!!!
When we reached about age 10~ 11 and were introduced to physics, chemistry, geometry and algebra,
everything changed!!!  The boys were getting explanations and learning at faster speed!
I always remember this particular boy ( our first grade teacher was pulling his ears and calling him lazy and dumb and what not).
He became honor  student in high school, and graduated from university with honors majoring in nuclear physics.

I think boys need to be taught different, since most of the time they are interested in different things than girls.
That said I also agree that every child is different, unique and needs to be "discovered" and no labeling!

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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2010, 02:12:48 AM »

Right, but there is also stunning evidence that boys are 'favored' in math/science classes as they get older. I saw a news segment once -- boys called on more than girls, that sort of thing.

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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2010, 08:01:29 PM »

I hope I didn’t give the impression that I condone the labeling or “pigeon holing” of children; just the opposite in fact! I was in quite a rush when doing the original response and perhaps my thoughts were incomplete or unclear.  My understanding of the learning process as a whole is that everyone can learn through all their senses, although each child will naturally gravitate towards a learning style that  most interests them.  Nobody is exclusively a visual learner, tactile learner, or aural learner, but with that understood, I think there could be advantages to multisensory learning.

The problem, as I see it, is that many educators neglect tactile/kinesthetic learning while focusing on aural and visual learning.  While I don’t know the exact reasons for this I suspect that it is because of something like high student to teacher ratios or possibly for economical reasons since the materials are more expensive.  Personally I think that children are highly adaptive, but that being said some students invariably adapt better than others. Because of that disparity I think that sometimes adults don’t often recognize that education isn’t meeting children’s needs. At least with my kids I have found that often children will communicate that their needs aren’t being met, and it’s really just a matter of recognizing that communication for what it really is…

For example: I went to elementary school with a boy named Kenny who had difficulties remaining seated, quiet, and focused. Subsequently the teacher spent a lot of time disciplining him and labeling him as a kid that had a ‘discipline problem’ or ‘ADHD’ or some other kind of armchair diagnosis that indicates that the child was the problem. Looking back at that scenario from a parent’s perspective I think that that type of behavior can really underscore a need that kids are trying to communicate.  Kenny might be saying “I need something more stimulating”, but all that the teacher saw was that Kenny was disrupting the class.  Unfortunately, instead of recognizing that as unique individuals we all learn in slightly (or sometimes more than slightly) different ways and redesigning the learning process to meet everyone’s needs many educators will label these children as having a problem. In some cases these types of “behavioral problems” lead to conditioned learning deficiencies and sometimes even medical diagnosis related to learning disabilities, when in fact a change in the teaching approach may be enough to get them on the right track. It is sad how many children end up medicated simply because they are misunderstood and don’t fit the mold. 

RE: the boy v. girl learning styles: I don’t think that boys necessarily learn one way while girls learn another. As a girl growing up I more resembled the ‘boy’ model of learning which is why I prefer to look at it from the perspective of the child’s needs rather than a gender issue.  The second article I linked, Teaching the Minds of Boys, had some interesting points one of which was that in the studies cited both boys and girls showed significant gains when the educators made classrooms more “boy  friendly.”  I’m guessing that presenting the learning material in different ways reinforced the lessons so everyone could benefit.  Some of the suggestions I liked from the article were offering varied learning opportunities (experiential, kinesthetic, spatial-visual, purposeful reading/writing) and offering students a choice.  There were plenty of articles I chose not to link that advocated segregating boys and girls, i.e. all boy and all girl schools.  I don’t agree with this simply because I think children should be given different learning options. 

Children know their needs, but (I think) adults often have difficulties hearing them. On a side note I am not necessarily saying that “this approach” works over “that approach” per say, but I do strongly believe that being armed with as much knowledge about learning, and diversity of learning styles, as possible will lead to a series of well thought out and crafted solutions that will fit the needs of ALL our kids.

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PS – sorry for the quotation-mark-a-thon! Wink 


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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2010, 03:34:13 AM »

My experience has been the opposite.  My son has learned so much very quickly.  He has been reading independently since about a week before his 3rd birthday.  He loves to learn, and learns very quickly.  We have had two different teachers tell us that he is the brightest child they have ever worked with.  My daughter on the other hand is very difficult to work with.  She is very stubborn and will not show what she knows when asked.  You have to catch her using what she has learned to determine if she has learned any thing.

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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2010, 11:05:56 PM »

Twinergy! Once again... you're all over it. I hope you're publishing somewhere? 

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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2010, 05:29:32 AM »

The leapfrog dvds are awesome and also the leapfrog clickstart!!!
The male species are usually more hands on rather than verbal like girls -in general.  The brain is different in the area of communication.  I do not think boys are "slower" than girls they just have different wiring of the brain than girls.

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