eliminating dairy products

[Jake]

Kmum You asked what is long life milk .It is the one you buy and use it withen a week.About the milk that i am given fresh from a sheep or goat the doctor told me to boil it and keep it in the fridge. The farmer that is handling it to me he only gives half a litter 3 times a week. Iwas impressed how his stool and another thing he started to gain wieght imiditly.In 2 months he already gained 600gr.I have noticed that something was wrong, one day before he went to school i gave him a cup of milk and after 2 hr they phoned that he was sick.I had from the same milk in the morning and i was not sick so i decided to be tested.Poor child he is autistic and he could not tell us that he felt sick when he had milk.Sombody told me to give broccoli or spinac to have his vit .that is a problem for me .all he like oranges and bannana fruits and veg none not even chips.

[kmum]

Jake - I'm glad to hear he is doing better.  Can you hide vegetables in anything? For example when cooking spaghetti sauce I will put veggies in my blender so they are like a paste then mix them in with the sauce so you can't tell there are veggies in it.

[Jake]

You know how much i try .he has high sence of smelling .Last time i tried to put some spinace with chicken breast .The idea of killing the smell with sauce i will try it .I used to give him the omega 3 cupsols we put them in a pupeta and give them to him direct into his mouth. I bought some that it has cod liver oil and tried to do the same. Because the cod oil is smelly more now when he see us with the pupetta he runs off.We have tried it with choclate ice cream and he smells it. He was getting progress with the omega 3 . thank good night

[nhockaday]

I take flax seed oil for my omegas. It has omega 3s, 6s, and 9s. It smells a lot less than fish oil!

[ZaJa]

I've read from Dr. Mercola's website (www.mercola.com) that dairy is indeed harmful to our bodies, can even cause cancer and other diseases because the ultimate source - the cow - is given different antibiotics and growth hormones that eventually transfer to humans.  I even read one cancer survivor doctor, who completely eliminated dairy in her diet and never since had any remission and claims that dairy is indeed the culprit why she had it in the first place. When I get to find her testimony and the studies she has made in my files I will post it.

With regard to giving milk to babies, this claim should apply too don't you think so? I just checked the milk of my baby and it says that it's CASEIN-DOMINANT and from the IAHP article sent by Nikky, casein is harmful. Now, I don't know whether to change my milk (ultimately it's still cow's milk though) or stop giving milk to my 14-month old baby and substitute with other calcium foods? I will be calling the manufacturer to ask about casein.

Oh well...I'm confused now...

[nhockaday]

Well I'll tell you now that the manufacturer will swear up and down that it's safe.

[kmum]

I just read this on the Holistic Pediatric Association web site

 Flax seed oil is often recommended as an omega-3 supplement for children, but there is a problem. Flax seeds contain the omega-3 fatty acid ALA that must be converted to DHA by an enzyme so that the body can incorporate it into cells. The problem is that children make this enzyme only in small amounts, if at all. If they do not have the enzyme they will not benefit from the omega-3 fat in flax seeds. Newborns are completely unable to convert ALA to DHA. A study of breastfeeding mothers who took a flaxseed oil supplement had no resulting increase in their own plasma or breast milk levels of DHA, showing that adults do not make this conversion either (Francois, 2003). Flaxseeds are not an adequate source of DHA.


I thought it was kind of interesting that kids have very little of the enzyme needed to benefite from the omega 3's in flax seed.  It would sure be easier to  get them to take it.  I have to be very careful not to mix too much in with K's food or she won't eat it.  Sometimes that means spreading it out over a few meals & I forget so she doesn't always get the full dose.

[kmum]

This is such an interesting subject.  I found a couple more interesting links:

Where to find whole milk
http://www.realmilk.com/where.html

& Milk - should your children drink it?
http://www.hpakids.org/holistic-health/articles/96/1/Milk%3A-Should-Your-Children-Drink-It%3F

[nhockaday]

Regarding your comment about flax seed-- I hope that is not true. I have been taking flax seed (for it's omegas) since I was pregnant. I was told, and expected to be getting the full benefits of the omegas and expected to pass those benefits to my son.

And the articles about milk are very interesting and further confirm my original post. Thanks.

What really amazes me is that children are pushed to drink a lot of milk. I am on wic, and I get like 6 gallons of milk a month. I hate milk and only use it to cook with. But the point is that the government is giving all these families huge amounts of it and saying how great and beneficial it is. It's no wonder there are so many health and behavior problems today (and I'm not just blaming it on milk, but other things that the government doesn't choose to investigate or tell us the whole story about). And it looks like a big part of the problem is all the crap that they give cows to make them bigger and "healthier". It's the same problem with all the meat that people eat and the vegetables and fruits that are supposed to be good for you.

I seriously wish that I could afford to eat totally organic, but unfortunately, with this economy, it is way too expensive.

[laidalays]

My son has intolerance to cow's milk proteins so I'm giving him a special powder milk . When he reach the age of two, his pediatrician has advised me to stop with powder milk and start with soya milk and it will be in two months time. There is a lot of controversy about milk so I'm not quite sure about what I'll do. I've heard soya milk has a lot of allergenes. Do any of you know anything about almond milk, is it a better option?

[nhockaday]

I read that it is a good option.

[kmum]

nhockaday - Here is the link to the info on flax seed - I don't think it means it is harmful to the baby, just not useful. The info on flax seed is towards the bottom of the article.

http://www.hpakids.org/holistic-health/articles/63/1/Fats-and-Oils-for-Childrens-Health

[nhockaday]

I know it's not harmful, but I am only taking it to benefit Gabriel. So if it doesn't work then I've been wasting money on it when I could have bought nasty fish oil instead.

[kmum]

I must be a mean mom because I make K take the fish oil herself!  I have to be careful not to mix too much at a time into her food though or she won't eat it.

[Shuki]

laidalays - Almond milk totes many benefits (rich in vitamin D and E, omega fatty acids and low in cholesterol), but also high amounts of allergens (very high in salicylates and problematic proteins, considered a priority allergen by many countries with a 37% likelihood of a person being allergic).  Soy milk also contains proteins that many find difficult to digest or lead to even more severe problems, but its salicylate levels are negligible, so I would advise soy milk as the safer option.  Keep in mind however that both almonds (grouped in the category of 'tree nuts') and soy are both in the top 9 allergens to watch out for by paediatricians

Unfortunately I only know about this because I'm extremely allergic to lots of different foods! 

Cheers,
Shuki

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