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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2011, 03:51:21 PM »

I am Also a native Arabic speaker and would love to land a hand in any possible way!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2011, 10:50:34 PM »

ASA Nourah,

While it is true that most texts are written without tashkeel/vowel markings; that is for native Arabic speakers who were immersed in the language from either birth or very young age and repeatedly hear the words spoken.  Otherwise, teaching without tashkeel is a disaster for non-native Arabic speakers who wuold then have to study Arabic grammar in depth to be able to determine which vowel markings go on the words and to be able to understand them in context - in short, the native Arabic speaker's approach to learning Arabic, does not work for non-native Arabic speakers in an English speaking environment or non-native Arabic speaking environment. 

I would also suggest to BrillKids that we consult with language specialists who have specialized degrees in teaching Arabic to non-native speakers - because the approach will be both effective and efficient. 

Another non-native speaker's thoughts on the tashkeel issue:

http://readkutubkids.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/to-tashkeel-or-not-tashkeel/

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I can also help you if you want.
My name is Nourah, from Saudi Arabia, and I live in the U.K. I’ve a baby who is five months now.

I have a comment on the issue of tashkeel mentioned by sister Ayesha:
Arabic words are often read without tashkeel as we see in newspapers, magazines and the Internet. So, tashkeel is not a necessary for reading the word in the Arabic language.
But from my point of view, I think it is better to teach the child reading the words without tashkeel; because it is written in most of books without it.

All the best
Nourah

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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2011, 12:46:40 PM »

I've just read this post! I hope it's not too late! I totally agree with Ayesha about being VERY careful about pronunciation, diacritic signs, grammar, etc. I am ready to help. Arabic is my mother tongue, my dad is an Arabic literature professor and my sister-in-law is preparing her PhD in Arabic etymology. So plz don't hesitate to contact me.

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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2011, 01:00:31 PM »

BTW, is there any expected date for the curriculum release? OMG! I can't wait!

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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2011, 10:16:33 PM »

ASA,

I believe the is that LR Arabic curriculuum should have BOTH - just as does Rosetta Stone Arabic does - a toggle switch (or categories) with correct diacritics, and without. 

I can say from experience, that my children are about to begin Noorani Lesson 11, which are exercises; and are able to accurately spell-read/sound out words (and then they memorize them and recognize them instantly) from the Qur'an; whereas before beginning the Noorani reader - they were utterly confused with the whole word approach for Arabic because the diacritics are above and below the letters, and do affect the pronunciation; and without any diacritics; one has to guess at the pronunciation, which may or may be correct, since one vowel change - changes the entire meaning of the word; unless they know the word in context from hearing a million times in an immersed environment.

I think of the diacritics as "training wheels" in the beginning, and then they can be removed, and still understand; but not vice verse, as a non-native learner of the Arabic language.

I also believe that a few Arabic stories should be selected, and the Doman steps created from it (sentences/phrases/couplets/words) - otherwise, it will be a headache from a grammatical/vocabulary standpoint to start from scratch and it actually all come together correctly at the sentence/book stage.

Wa Allahu 'alim.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2011, 08:21:30 AM »

salam alicom
I am a native arabic speaker from morocco, and i would love to help,
P.S: I just logged hurrily...sorry for the short note

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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2011, 05:17:41 PM »

hello
i am Ru'a from Saudi Arabia.
my first language is Arabic. Born in the States and lived, raised, schooled in Riyadh (saudi arabia)
I would love to help :-)

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