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Teen maths prodigy offered Cambridge place
 
 

 
A 14-year-old maths prodigy has been offered a place at Cambridge
University which, if he accepts, would make him the youngest student there
for almost 230 years.
 
 
Arran Fernandez, who lives in Surrey outside London, passed exams set by
the university last year and he now only needs to pass his A-level physics
exam to enrol.
 
 
In the British educational system, A-levels are commonly taken by
18-year-old students, but Arran Fernandez - who was home-educated - has
already passed the exams in maths and further maths.
 
 
His father, Neil Fernandez, says if his son takes the place at Fitzwilliam
College, he will be the youngest undergraduate at Cambridge since William
Pitt the Younger studied there aged 14 in 1773 and went on to become prime
minister.
 
 
"Fitzwilliam College decided to make Arran a conditional offer after
considering his application very carefully," said David Cardwell, who will
be teaching the boy.
 
 
"The college looks forward to welcoming Arran in October 2010 should he
meet his offer, and to helping him develop and fulfil his considerable
academic potential."
 
 
Arran first hit the headlines in 2001 when he took a GCSE maths exam -
normally taken by 16-year-olds - at the age of five.
 
 
"Maths has been my favourite subject for as long as I can remember," said
the teenager, who aspires to become a research mathematician.
 
 
"There are a few things I want to work on," he said, adding that he would
"like the solve the Riemann hypothesis" - a theory about the patterns of
prime numbers that has baffled the greatest mathematicians for 150 years.
 
 
- AFP
 
 
Tags: education, human-interest, united-kingdom, england
 
 
  ABC (Moderator):
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 9:03:58am
 
 
      Are 14-year-olds too young to go to university?
 
 
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            OurCognitiveSurplus:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 9:11:59am
 
 
            Go for it. What else is he going to do if he has passed school?
            I can't think of anything better than going to uni.
 
 
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            Dad:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 9:12:39am
 
 
            No. Good on him. He could be the next Einstein, Feynman or
            Hawking.
 
 
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            ingenuous:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 9:14:36am
 
 
            Mathematics is full of harmless cranks. University is a
            generally nicer place than the real world. I say "Good on him!"
            and hope he gets in. He will thrive there.
 
 
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                  Tim:
 
 
                  08 Jan 2010 12:16:23pm
 
 
                  Exactly. If there is any field where a prodigy can
                  flourish while being young it is in mathematics. It lacks
                  the social pressures of other courses and allows the
                  academically hyper-focused to concentrate on their study.
                  Given that most major theorems have been discovered by
                  men under 25 it's a field for the young more than any
                  other.
 
                  But only time will tell whether or not he makes a huge
                  impact or not. Just because you can learn early and
                  quickly does not mean you have the depth of understanding
                  to unravel the big mathematical problems.
 
 
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            pabs:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 9:15:47am
 
 
            I think he might be too young. It depends whether he is
            emotionally and socially mature enough to endure university
            study. But then, if he is that bright he might be wrapped in
            cotton wool, protecting him from a potentially harsh
            environment. Good luck to him!
 
 
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                  spin sick:
 
 
                  08 Jan 2010 10:55:35am
 
 
                  While I agree with the emotional concerns.... whats the
                  alternative? Holding him back is clearly not one of them.
 
 
                  I just hope that his parents and the university help him
                  to learn the social and emotional aspects of life.
 
                  If you have the talent it must be nurtured and allowed to
                  advance. I notice that we have just had a 15 playing in
                  the Hopman Cup for England and there is a 16 year old
                  circum-navigating the planet - maybe kids playing in the
                  adult world is more common than we think!!
 
 
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                        M:
 
 
                        08 Jan 2010 11:12:10am
 
 
                        I think child prodigies are still rare. We just
                        hear about them more these days thanks to mass
                        media and the Internet.
 
 
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            Gilligan:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 9:15:55am
 
 
            He obviously has the academic smarts but most likely will lack
            the social savvy to really benefit from all that a University
            has to offer.
 
            Education is more than academic brilliance and will be wasted
            on this youngster, sad really.
 
 
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                  Arthur:
 
 
                  08 Jan 2010 11:11:22am
 
 
                  Of course if he is at Uni for 10 years or more he will
                  have matured quite sufficiently to have some good
                  immature grown up fun.
 
 
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                  scotto:
 
 
                  08 Jan 2010 12:07:42pm
 
 
                  There are plenty of older people whom lack 'social savvy'
                  too...
 
 
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                  Jake:
 
 
                  08 Jan 2010 12:08:57pm
 
 
                  Of course he's too young to waste half his time at uni at
                  the bar so he'll probably do very, very well and have
                  shining career prospects by the time he's old enough to
                  have his first drink to celebrate. Good on him.
 
 
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                  Realist:
 
 
                  08 Jan 2010 2:20:18pm
 
 
                  Note that mathematics isn't arts, so therefore by doing a
                  real degree he will have no time nor need for
                  socialising.
 
 
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                  Gilligan:
 
 
                  08 Jan 2010 3:44:49pm
 
 
                  I wonder why the responses all assume that I thought he
                  might be sitting at or in the bar? Says a lot about
                  people does that... but what about sports, drama, liberal
                  arts, philosphy and the classics, thats really where I
                  was alluding to him not having an opportunity to spread
                  his wings and grow as an individual.
 
                  Maths is great and he is obviously a very talented kid,
                  envy is my middle name, but unless he can see outside of
                  that sphere then we may not benefit from him, nor he
                  himslef benefit, as much as he might with a wider social
                  savvy!
 
 
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            Leaping Antidote:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 9:31:30am
 
 
            Don't know, depends on the individual I suppose. However I DO
            know that in the 1930's my father at 16 was refused entry to
            study engineering at Birmingham University on account of his
            age....seems silly now.
 
 
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            Roy G Biv:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 10:16:13am
 
 
            It's been said that, in the field of mathematics, most trully
            original work is done before the age of 25, after that people
            tend to just build on their previous achievements. It's not
            laziness, just that as the brain matures it may lose a certain
            plasticity that suits original mathematics.
 
            So this kid could effectively double his peak working life.
 
 
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            Lucy:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 11:57:30am
 
 
            A brain like that should not be wasted.
 
            He'll have social issues anyway being that smart with success
            so young. So he may as well make the most of talent and live
            his own choices, rather than dumb himself down to be able to
            make a couple of friends his own age that will loose touch when
            they head off to uni.
 
            Different things come to different people at different times.
            We owe it to ourselves to take the opportunities when they
            present.
 
 
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            Arsenio le Voyeur:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 12:11:14pm
 
 
            Well if parents are prepared to pack them off on solo trips
            around the World what's wrong with University?
 
 
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      meg:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 9:14:23am
 
 
      Socially - Yes.
      Academically - of course not.
 
      If the appropriate support structures are in place to assist this
      young person on a social level -
      university seems to be the best possible place for this gifted young
      person. If he has the emotional intelligence required to exist in
      adult world, success will be his on all levels. Good luck to him (if
      this is what he really wants)
 
 
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            Mr Burns:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 10:49:43am
 
 
            It seems that 230 years ago it was right but our industrial age
            education system has made it wrong. Some children are held back
            a year because they don't get it. Many many more children are
            disadvantaged because they are not advanced when they do get
            it.
 
        
           08 Jan 2010 11:10:57am
 
 
            having a high IQ and a talent for maths does not exempt one
            from the usual trials of adolescent hormones
 
            there are many child prodigies who never lived up to their
            potential for these kinds of reasons
 
 
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            Steve:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 11:33:23am
 
 
            I agree, and find comments about social 'maturity' even more
            amusing given what many undergraduates actually get up to.
 
 
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      R See 1:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 11:07:52am
 
 
      I was at Uni at 15 although turned 16 early in the academic year. It
      was no big deal. I probably did not have as serious a dose of the
      smarts as he has, so I say - go for it.
 
      Uni will help him expand his horizons..........it tends to do that to
      most individuals!! As others have said - Uni is not just about
      academic achievement, it is also about [ hopefully] exposure to
      ideas, thinking and a wide array of people, even some sport and
      recreation.
 
 
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      Katie C 14 Years Old:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 11:14:21am
 
 
      Good on him! WOW what a accomplishment, if he is that smart then he
      might be bored at school, so why not, well done Arran!
 
 
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      Frustrated:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 11:43:14am
 
 
      14 is not too young. Why do people want to prevent someone else's
      opportunity?
      Of course in Australia any such opportunity is entirely Verboten by a
      nanny state bureaucracy. My own son, 8, is prevented from even taken
      maths at the next grade level by the over zealous (or possibly plain
      lazy) ACT education bureaucracy.
 
 
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            Another angle:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 1:46:54pm
 
 
            I was offered to go up a year level at my school but my mum
            didn't let me. I was angry at first, but looking back I
            couldn't be happier. My fort was maths as well and I don't know
            how many good experiences I would have missed out on if I
            hadn't have had a bit of time to "waste" while others worked.
            It was my social skills that needed to developing not my maths
            and maths classes became the perfect platform for me to chill
            out and talk to people. Obviously to get away with it you need
            to be more or less talking about maths and so I just naturally
            went into teaching my class mates. There are a lot of dodgy
            maths teachers out there and I often ended up teaching myself
            and then my friends. Teaching the concepts helped me to
            understand them better, I made life-long friends and it added
            to my confidence. Even more importantly than that though, it
            introduced me to the high of doing things for other people.
 
            So why is it that so many people think it is a great idea to
            rush through education. Taking it as it came gave me so much!
            Childhood is a part of life many would go back to if they could
            and as school is the last fortress of childhood in our society
            why cut it off at the knees?
 
 
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      Catch22:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 12:13:15pm
 
 
      Considering the previous person holding the record went on to become
      prime minister, I can't see that it would be a problem.
 
 
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      Carl:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 12:43:04pm
 
 
      No way should he go! Whoever said he's mature is insane! He's smart,
      no doubt, but intelligence is not wisdom or experience... Every kid I
      know who went up a single year at school had massive social problems.
      He's skipping 4 years and entering an adults world! What an absolute
      waste of a great mind to be thrown into something so specific before
      his mind has a chance to broaden. The poor guy won't get a chance to
      taste life!
 
 
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      Liz:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 1:30:48pm
 
 
      I suspect that behind this child is a pushy ambitious parent who has
      protected him from having to mix with a normal school population in
      case of behavioural contamination. Most child prodigy's were
      conditioned by an over zealous parent from an early age . Is this
      really in the child's interest?
 
 
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      More Frustrated:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 1:34:08pm
 
 
      I was offered to go up a year level in my school and my mum didn't
      let me. I was angry about it at first but looking back I couldn't be
      gladder. My fort was maths as well and I don't know how many good
      friends I would have missed out on if I hadn't had a bit of time to
      "waste" while other people worked. It wasn't my maths that needed
      developing it was my social skills and Maths classes became a
      fantastic opportunity to just chill and talk quietly with others.
      Obviously to be having a chat in your maths class you need to be more
      or less talking about maths (lest the teacher gives you detention)
      and so I just got into teaching my fellow class mates. There are some
      crap maths teachers out there and I often taught myself how to do
      things and then went on to teach my friends. Teaching the concepts
      helped me understand them better, I made life long friends and I was
      able to start tutoring people in maths for good money the second I
      left school but even more importantly than that it introduced me to
      the high of doing something for someone else!
 
      So why is it that so many people think that rushing through your
      education is a good thing? Childhood is a part of our lives many of
      us would go back to if we could and as school is the last stronghold
      of childhood why cut it off at the knees?
 
 
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      WS:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 2:02:37pm
 
 
      It would depend on the 14 year old, of course. If I were considering
      Arran for candidacy, I'd ask for an interview to check that he could
      handle the social environment with everyone being years older than
      him, and the pressure that a degree at a university like Cambridge
      can place on someone. But otherwise, sure.
 
      I would suggest that there would be some way for him to associate
      with people his own age, but that's up to him and his parents, not
      the university administration.
 
 
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      Angela:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 2:11:13pm
 
 
      No he is not to young not with the talent he has, he is interested in
      Mathematics which for most of us is a challenge, well done to this
      young man and I wish him all the best.
 
      Only a small minority have this kind of talent who are we all to stop
      them going and starting out earlier.
 
 
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      wayne:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 2:44:38pm
 
 
      I just think it was odd to see a mathematical mistake in the article.
      Here's to study!
 
 
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      trog:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 3:00:14pm
 
 
      all very good, but a girl from my school won a scolarship in
      history/english to either oxford or cambridge (it was a looong time
      ago) at an early age and did have some problems coping with the
      environment. last i heard, she was doing some relatively mundane job.
 
 
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      gazza1:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 3:26:29pm
 
 
      If Arran Fernandez is really a boy-genius, he would be wasting his
      time through the standard schooling system.
 
      Go for it, mate and good on you!
 
 

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    Having assisted gifted students in accelerated programs for
            years the only factor to consider is whether the people around
            the child are prepared for the day when normalisation occurs in
            the kids early 20's. Around that time academically the
            knowledge / ability gap is usually closed, the prodigy is no
            longer special and no longer being special is devastating.
 
 
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      Dylo:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 9:22:09am
 
 
      I think so, but then some people are just special.. i still think its
      a little sad a young boy spending the best years of his life working
      out maths problems. each to their own though and good luck to him
 
 
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            ingenuous:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 10:17:35am
 
 
            They don't harness you to a wheel and make you do maths until
            you drop! Mathematics is amazingly satisfying if you have an
            interest in it. Why is it sad when someone gets to do a lot of
            his favourite thing and also make a career out of it? What
            should he be doing instead?
 
 
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      Mark W:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 9:26:57am
 
 
      What a fantastic opportunity for Arran and I wish him all the best.
      We should be encouraging our best students and giving them every
      opportunity to advance as these are the people who will solve
      tomorrows problems and produce a better future for us all.
      To often the bright students are held back with money and resources
      spent on those that lack the talent and work ethic to succeed.
 
 
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      Albert:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 9:28:28am
 
 
      14 is not too young.
      It's not our decision.
      Many are unaware of the value of mathematics, without it we have NO
      space travel and NO internet.
 
 
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      MT:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 10:00:59am
 
 
      he will need quite a lot of special treatment if he is to manage
      socially and emotionally over the next few years
 
 
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      Nice:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 10:07:45am
 
 
      If he invents an OS that is actually stable or faster internet or a
      cure for cancer whats the harm? We have been sadly lacking in real
      academic brilliance for many many years now. It would be nice for
      another giant to take the field and make the others lift their game.
      It takes about 3 months for an academic to produce a HERDC journal
      publication? What a load of crollop.
 
 
 
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            MT:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 10:53:54am
 
 
            lacking in real brilliance for many years now?
 
            what rubbish!
 
            how about our very own Fields medal winner Terence Tau?
 
            or Grigori Perelman?
 
            the world has never had so many geniuses as it has now
 
 
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                  Gilligan:
 
 
                  08 Jan 2010 3:39:48pm
 
 
                  "the world has never had so many geniuses as it has
                  now"... wow, and look at the mess we've created. Less
                  genius might then be a better solution :<)
 
 
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            Dr D:
 
 
           
 
         
 
                 
 
                  Is that a case of the writing being both original and
                  interesting... the original bits not interesting and the
                  interesting bits not original?
 
 
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      Ideas Man:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 10:15:32am
 
 
      If a 14 year old Joan of Arc could lead the French Army to win the
      battle over Brittain, why can't a an obviously mature child be
      enrolled at Uni. It is interesting to see that he was home schooled.
 
      If he had gone to school, I could only assume he would be the
      brightest in the class and labelled a geek , pet and outsider. Some
      dull witted teacher would not of had the energy to elevate him higher
      than the status quo.
 
 
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            Ed:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 10:27:49am
 
 
            If he had gone to school he would by now be scribbling graffiti
            on the backs of bus seats.
 
            I do not think he will be socially too immature. In my
            experience university students spend most of their time in a
            drunken stupor having sex with each other. Twice a year they
            awake bleary eyed to cram for exams.
 
            I think Aaron will do just fine.
 
 
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            MT:
 
 
            08 Jan 2010 10:56:34am
 
 
            Its a bit rude to label teachers who are not geniuses 'dull
            witted'
 
            schools are not well suited to maximise the potential of people
            who are well outside the norm. Its not the fault of the average
            teacher who has many other ordinary kids to cope with.
 
 
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                  Aims:
 
 
                  08 Jan 2010 12:47:41pm
 
 
                  I think you'll find Ideas Man wasn't calling all teachers
                  'dull witted'... just pointing out that its much more
                  demanding for teachers to adjust programs to accommodate
                  highly intelligent students. Some schools have talent
                  programs for students with significant potential. For
                  those (many) schools that do not offer this, it is up to
                  the teacher to extend the student to their full potential
                  and this involves drafting alternative lesson plans. Do
                  they get paid to do this extra work? No. Are they thanked
                  for their time? No.. so unfortunately, unless you are
                  lucky enough to have a particularly selfless and
                  energetic teacher you are unlikely to be extended if you
                  do happen to be one of those special kids who race
                  through the lesson and digest information quickly.
 
 
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      granny:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 10:26:09am
 
 
      Seeing that he was home educated, I hope he has developed the social
      skills needed. Go for it.
 
 
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      kenj:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 10:45:16am
 
 
      Good luck to the young guy, but he is still not in the same league as
      Australia's own Terry Tao who was doing university mathematics from
      the age of 11, competed in the world maths olympiad at ages 10,11 and
      12 (winning bronze, silver and gold respectively). Tao was ready for
      university maths at 11 but was held back for social reasons. He
      earned his BA at 15, his masters at 16 and his PhD from Princeton at
      19. By 23 he was the youngest fully tenured professor ever at UCLA
      and later went on to win the prestigious Fields Medal, the
      mathematical equivalent of the Nobel Prize. Most professional, high
      level mathematicians might produce 3 or 4 high quality maths papers a
      year -- Tao averages about 60! That will give some idea of his
      genius. Getting into uni at a young age is not the challenge; doing
      something when you get there is. It will be interesting to see if
      this young man is up to it. Good luck to him.
 
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao
 
 
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      sevanclaig:
 
 
      08 Jan 2010 10:48:18am
 
 
      Am I the only one who finds it amusing that so many repsondents here
      and there (adults, I presume) are concerned that the 14 year old
      prodigy lacks some specific level of social development or maturity
      to attend university at his age.
      What?
      Suddenly these folks assume themselves capable of making expert
      analysis of 14 year old math phenoms- from their own previous
      experience as what, pray tell- as 14 year old kids who couldn't
      remember to wipe the snot from their noses at the table much less
      master algebra 101?
 
 
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