Kids taught Doman in the 80's, where are they now?

[scottdaleharris]

Does anyone know how children taught reading and other right brain teaching in the 70's and 80's ended up?  Have any of them won the nobel peace prize or had some great invention?  I'm very curious about this.  Or how is Dr. Titzer's daughters from YBCR doing now?  Are they geniuses?

[nhockaday]

Dr Titzer's daughter, Aleka, graduated at 16, and is now a junior in college. She is majoring in philosophy. She took AP classes in high school and earned 45 credits for college. Keelin is already in high school at the age of 13. Both are doing very well, both academically, and socially. They love to read and can do so at lighting fast speeds.

[scottdaleharris]

Thanks for the info, I was really wondering how this translated to success when children became "adults".

[Tanikit]

My sister was taught to read at age 2 using a method based on the Doman method with some modifications. She is now 32 and an advocate with a little girl of her own who is 2,5 years old and also learning to read and speaks Portugese and English. My sister was dux of her school at the age of 16 some two years younger than most of the children in her class.

I do not know many others who were taught these methods then, but do know of many children who learnt to read before school in the 80s and all of them are doing well and are professionals. I am unsure whether this relates simply to the teaching or their IQ or the environment they grew up in, but I do believe that early stimulation can be very beneficial.

[mmetlich]

I had read all of Dr. Doman's books and was also wondering where were the children that started this in the 70's 80's. I know this may be kids above average, but does anyone know if that works all thorughout their student life?
My brother could read fluently in English and Spanish at age 3, but during his teenage years he struggled as a student. I believe this is more than IQ and good habits any suggestion about this?

[carpe_diem]

We used the Doman 'Teach Your Baby to Read' kit and book in about 1966 - it was new here then and other members of the family were very critical of the idea that you could teach reading to toddlers.

We did about a year of it with my DS when he was 13 months old,and he learned a lot of words and short sentences - I remember having to make cards for him as he progressed beyond the scope of the kit. He was ahead of other children of his age for reading skills through school but struggled with other subjects.  He was never a high achiever academically. As an adult he was most interested in mechanics and practical things.

My daughter - born in 1967, had a few months of the Doman method as it was then (in the 1960s) she picked up reading very early - I'm not sure whether that was as a result of having done the cards or the home environment generally. She was also ahead in terms of reading age, an avid reader, and did well as a student.
Since getting her 3 children to secondary school she has had time to develop her own career. She is now a craftsperson with many skills in most areas of practical craft. She has started writing and illustrating childrens books.  In addition, she is now becoming established as a professional artist.
 
On the other hand my younger DS born in 1979 did not benefit from the Doman kit (I think I had lost it by the time he was born), he seemed to 'pick up' reading by himself, becoming a fluent reader by the age of 4. I homeschooled him through to the age of 12. He excelled academically and particularly in English as a student, and is an IT advisor with the Ambulance Service.
So in my experience, it is debateable whether the early reading that I tried with my first two kids made much difference to their adult lives - but I am still an advocate of giving babies and small children every opportunity to maximise their skills in every respect. 
 

[scottdaleharris]

carpe_diem,
Thank you for the real insight you provided.  Yes, I believe you should give them every opportunity as well and it can only help not hurt as long as you never force them to learn.  My daughter is 9 months old now and I have been going on the program for about two weeks.  My wife thinks its great, but hasn't read the book and is kind of making this my thing.  When I told her we need to get "monkey bars" to help with strength and breathing she said I was nuts and starting to get a little weird about the whole thing.  Thats when I thought, hmmmm does doing all this really produce results later or did I just drink the Doman "kool-aid".  Reading is the pathway to learning many other things and I think if your child doesn't have the drive to learn many other things then it just isn't going to happen, but at least you gave them the tools and "reading option" to make that choice.  Anyone else who has or knows someone who did the Doman method and is an adult please post. This is very interesting.

[carpe_diem]

scottdaleharris
Yes i do the reading and all the rest of the development with the little boys with the sure knowledge that it didn't harm my own kids - doesn't harm them when they are 'extended' at school either (I was an infant and junior teacher and worked with special needs so saw it happen )

I do know that kids will do best when they get lots of praise - and when they know you believe in their abilities - if you don't have that faith in them then I think it takes longer.
Our house has always been full of books - and the boys see us getting enjoyment from reading,  and sharing books with them, so from the start they have the desire to learn.
I have always wondered to myself how my three kids would have developed without lots of stimulation in the pre-school years - but I wouldn't have dreamed of testing this out 
Good luck with your daughter - she is at the age when your programme will get her off to a great start - and don't forget the close bonding    you will all benefit I'm sure !!

[kmum]

I don't have any first hand knowedge, however I have looked for results in older kids too.  The only person I came across an adult on another site whose mom had done a Doman program with her & her brother.  She was starting to do it with her new baby.  She said that she was now starting the program with her child.  She said that her & her brother had always done well in school & found the work easy.  They had both graduated from university.   The thing that was interesting was that while she did plan to do a program with her kids she didn't seem overly excited about it.  It was more like - my mom did it so I guess I should too.

The thing that always seemed odd to me is that I can never find any negative feedback either( besides the medical field & their reaction to patterning).  There are the parents who are doing it now & that's it.  You would think someone would be spreading the word, whether it is good or bad.

[scottdaleharris]

Yes I agree, and I am not anti-Doman as I am doing the program and don't think it can hurt.  I am not sure if it is really possible to raise a genius though.  I think what the Doman program will do for my daughter is just make life a little easier.  If Doman really made geniuses then it would be so huge that everyone would be doing it.  It would be something taught to new mothers just like other child care subjects.  I haven't heard of anyone that went through the Doman program doing anything amazing when they were older like you would expect.  Does anyone know any?

[tatianna]

i personally know 17 people who did all or some of doman's programs as kids
(including my 4 siblings)
all of them had a very very easy time in school most going to collage at 15 or 16
there is a big difference in the kids who do just the reading program 
and the kids that did domans full program
of the people i know it's very easy to see difference between the two groups
the kids that did the reading program are very good readers and had a easy time in school
the kids that got the full program are what most people would call geniuses or pretty close to it
they can all still do instant advance math
speak and read three or more languages
play the violin and sometimes 3 or 4 instruments
are so smart it seems they know everything (encyclopedic knowledge program) 
can tell you anything you want to know about art, music, science, history and more
can even tell you who paint a picture they never saw before
are very strong and can run for miles nonstop
and the list goes on and on
when i met a lot of these people i wondered the same thing about why the whole world is not doing it?
i don't know
i just know that it does work and the more you do the more you get out of it
think alot of parent stop before they finish the whole program
and then you don't see the same results

   

[scottdaleharris]

Tatiana,
That was really refreshing to hear that you have actually met these people.  I wish my mom knew about Doman, I feel cheated, haha.  I had thought about dropping my math program and just focus on reading but I'm going to continue on with the whole program.  My daughter likes doing everything so why should I deny her, right?  Thank you for your post Tatiana!

[tatianna]

scottdaleharris

i know what you mean about feeling cheated 

i talked with my mom a month ago about the math program
i thought she had done the whole math program with my two youngest siblings
she said that she stopped after teaching numbers 100 and did not teach addition or subtraction
much less advanced math
she didn't know if it was working or not so she stopped
15 years later my sibling can't do instant advanced math
but of 5 kids they are the only ones that really understand math and can do it very quickly
my youngest sister is 16 and is in her first year of college a math major all A's too
so even a little bit does make a difference
but the kids that got the full math program are amazingly good at math
good luck with your baby girl and keep it up
once she turns a year old it gets way harder
i learned that the hard way but still working at it

     

[Plnkkylemichael]

can i get more information on the Doman studies? It sounds like something I would like to start with my boys...... thanks

[KL]

You could start here:
http://www.brillbaby.com/early-learning/glenn-doman.php

There's also a lot of info about Doman-related stuff in the Teaching Your Child Math and Teaching Your Child Reading boards.

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