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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2013, 10:46:45 AM »

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when my son was two years old, I created powerpoints with family pictures. I do not know if he got a benefit but he liked them smile
For example: picture with A and tractor. What is it? It is a tractor. What A is doing? He is sitting in tractor. Which color is tractor? It is read. One word per slide, and picture after each sentence. I also prepared tons of other small ppt files on simple subjects.

Great success was this file, with animated clipart. I started with the easiest words and added few words after every few days.
http://library.brillkids.com/download.php?cid=6&tid=&lid=104&fid=9287

I allowed him to operate powerpoint; this definitely kept his interest. He opened and modified files, and changed settings. He had his own profile, all files were saved as "read only", and I often updated the content of his folder. So I kept control on files and his learning. I kept his ppt files very short because usually he watched just the first few words. He choose the files, as he could read their names.

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A bit of general smile

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"Parents often do not become believers in temperament until after the birth of their second child. Before this time, their child's behavior may be seen as a simple and direct outcome of their upbringing, "a tribute to" or "the fault of" the parents. With the second child, management strategies that worked well with the first child may not be effective. Problems experienced with the first child (in feeding, sleeping, coping with strangers) may not exist with the second, but new problems may arise. Such experiences suggest strongly that "nature" as well as "nurture" influences child development, that children differ from each other from very early in life, and that these differences have important implications for parent-child interaction. A number of these individual differences fall under the rubric of child temperament, the subject of this chapter. Here, we define temperament as individual differences in reactivity to internal and external stimulation, and in patterns of motor and attentional self-regulation."

http://www.bowdoin.edu/~sputnam/rothbart-temperament-questionnaires/cv/publications/pdf/1995_Child%20Temp%20and%20parenting_Sanson-Rothbart.pdf

Well, I think often about how different my children are. They have nothing in common except their parents smile

My first kid is "early left-brained" - two years ahead her peers intellectually. she likes, she prefers to follow rules and instructions. she likes to behave well. she likes to watch and listen, and follow. She likes all kinds of EL.

My second one is not interested in rules and instructions. His main interest is imaginative play. At every free moment he takes toys (or non-toy things) and plays with these objects. His toys drive, fly, meet aliens, eat pizza, discuss daily events, relationship and other issues. They express their emotions loudly. He had discipline issues in childcare. He likes to play alone. He is very persistent and strong-willed. He is often singing, and it seems (to me smile ) that he is composing his own songs.

I do not think that one of them is more advanced. My first kid is very "handy" or "comfortable" to all kinds of educators. In her further life, she might become an expert but probably she will avoid leadership because she does not like to take risks, to resist and to look for her own way.

My second one seems to be similar to his grandfather who is very active, laborious, and he also always was leader and wealthy.

When I watch my son playing I sometimes remember texts like these
http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/attachments/1035/imaginary-worldplay-indicator-creative-giftedness.pdf

As he likes to play alone, he is at risk of late talking and little knowledge. I keep his knowledge and other skills in a sufficient level.

Well, I wanted to say that children are very different, and EL is not the only way to happiness smile


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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2013, 01:57:32 PM »

I like what FrukC said about creating files just for him. The more interesting it is the more he will want to pay attention. High interest information also aids in reading comprehension.

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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2013, 04:27:47 AM »

Thank you SO much for the many replies and suggestions!  I have so much to respond to from the above posts!  I wanted to write a quick update though to say that I think my little one is starting to...READ  big grin  !!!  YAY!!!!  His speech has drastically improved since I wrote the first post (it had just started to take off about a week before I wrote it - we had two different vacations with lots of extended family and I think that helped it!?!) and it's made a HUGE difference.  He will now eagerly say any word that ask him to say - so if we're doing LR, Reading Bear, etc - he will repeat the words and he seems so much more into it.  Lately, he has been upset whenever I close the laptop!   

Also...and this is where I'm thinking he is reading, but I need some more time to pass to see how this plays out...I started leaving out words when reading books and I wait for him to say the word before moving on.  It's usually the last word in the sentence or a word that I know is easy for him to say.  Well, he has been able to say the missing word almost 100% of the time.  I didn't give it much thought at first, because the missing words were very obvious at first - either I've read the book a ton or there's a picture of the word right there (ie - the word is pig, and there's a pig on the page).  However, I recently got out a whole bunch of board books that we haven't read in quite a few months and he was still able to fill in the missing word almost every time.  The one that struck me the most was a book about cars and it starts with "I am Sam" and he filled in the word "Sam" when I paused!  This is just one example of many....but I still wonder about it because sometimes he's not even looking at the book at all and is able to fill in the words   blink .....so that makes me think that maybe he was paying way more attention when I read these books to him a long time ago than I thought he was!?  Another thing that made me question, was that (until today!!) he never once was able to show that he read a word that was written on a dry earse board or piece of paper or on the computer, etc.  Howerever - today he read "duck", "baby", "dog," and "cat" after I wrote them on a piece of paper!  Those are all words that I suspected he knew from our "filling in the blank" time.  However..he ignored the word "Sam" when I wrote it smile.  Lol. 

And one more update - when using Daddude's cards...he was actually starting to sound them out yesterday.  He had the word "map" in his hand and he pointed to "m" and said "mmmm" and then to "p" and said "pppuhh". smile

Ahh - one more update! I also found out yesterday that he knows all of his letter sounds (except e)!  I happened to have a bag of chocolate chips and he REALLY REALLY wanted some smile!  I then asked "A says__" and ended up going through the whole alphabet!  Yes, he got a handful of chocolate chips after that  big grin !! 

Anyway, I'm super super excited seeing how much he's grown in the last month or so.  I just can't believe how much can change in such a short time period!  Thank you so much for all of your replies!  I'll have to give another update later!

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« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2013, 04:42:12 AM »

Yay!  Exciting update! 

I agree when you said that he likely was paying more attention than you thought. Kids are sponges when it comes to learning!

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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2013, 01:13:35 PM »


I agree when you said that he likely was paying more attention than you thought. Kids are sponges when it comes to learning!

It will be interesting to find out how much he knows as he starts talking even more.  If he suddenly knows a lot more words or Spanish or his numbers, I'm going to be the biggest believer of this - LOL!   Seriously, when I wrote my first post, there were zero signs that he was taking in anything regarding reading (except showing me awhile ago that he knew most of the letter sounds).   


when my son was two years old, I created powerpoints with family pictures. I do not know if he got a benefit but he liked them smile
For example: picture with A and tractor. What is it? It is a tractor. What A is doing? He is sitting in tractor. Which color is tractor? It is read. One word per slide, and picture after each sentence. I also prepared tons of other small ppt files on simple subjects.


I took some pictures during our recent vacation just for this purpose!  I need to get busy.  I think he would love it.



"Parents often do not become believers in temperament until after the birth of their second child. Before this time, their child's behavior may be seen as a simple and direct outcome of their upbringing, "a tribute to" or "the fault of" the parents. With the second child, management strategies that worked well with the first child may not be effective. Problems experienced with the first child (in feeding, sleeping, coping with strangers) may not exist with the second, but new problems may arise. Such experiences suggest strongly that "nature" as well as "nurture" influences child development, that children differ from each other from very early in life, and that these differences have important implications for parent-child interaction. A number of these individual differences fall under the rubric of child temperament, the subject of this chapter. Here, we define temperament as individual differences in reactivity to internal and external stimulation, and in patterns of motor and attentional self-regulation."

http://www.bowdoin.edu/~sputnam/rothbart-temperament-questionnaires/cv/publications/pdf/1995_Child%20Temp%20and%20parenting_Sanson-Rothbart.pdf


Lol - I had the most opinions about parenting before I had kids...then I got less judgmental after having one child....and then way less after the second smile!

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