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« Reply #450 on: December 13, 2015, 04:52:09 AM »

Wow, Robert, thank you so much for sharing that update!. David is doing so phenomenally well! It most certainly was the work ethic you developed with him that gave him the tenacity to take on the extra Google challenge.  And look where he is now, awesome!  clap

At 21 years old he has achieved Academic and career goals that mamy have only dreamed of, and that others may achieve but will take as long as another decade to get to. So cool.

Plus, he got a free ride for his master's, wow.  Well, not free, he was a ta, but still, no debt there!

The article you shared on phonics was interesting, the author even went so far as to say that if you teach sight words, it is detrimental because then phonics is not automatic. I used both sight word and phonics programs with my now 20month old.  He can read pretty well, he just doesn't have much stamina.  Of course, I have no idea which parts of the teaching program were the most effective...

I will say though, it's impossible not to teach sight words at some level... The child  always sees the whole word (like it or not), so they are bound to memorize the whole word for common words even if you use pure phonics.  So in that sense I'd say the author is incorrect, some whole word teaching won't hurt.

So now proud mama moment, here is video of the little guy.  Not the greatest one (he's hard to catch on camera), but super hat with his progress!


http://youtu.be/Bbh3Og3XMoc

I have some other videos where he is identifying numerals, he can also count to twenty.  Can wait to get the math ball really rolling!

Thanks for the update Robert, very inspirational!



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« Reply #451 on: December 14, 2015, 01:32:05 AM »

Thanks Evelyn for the kind words (from both of us...plus mom).

We talked Sight Words a bit before, so I'm probably covering prior material.  And, once again, I only have a sample size of one, so there's always risk if I try to make a general rule out of it, but I'll talk it again a bit.

First, never once did we try to get David to memorize any words by sight.  I'm not even sure they pushing Sight Words 18 years ago (when I taught David reading).  As far as I knew back then, it was either Whole Language or Phonics, and I knew enough to understand the unmitigated disaster that Whole Language is.

So, without ever being told to recognize a word by sight, David quickly developed that capability by being able to read phonetically (i.e., after seeing the word enough times you no longer have to sound it out).  And that's where I think the problem is with Sight Words...all adults that can read, read by sight.  And all adults that can read know phonics.  It's just a matter of timing - when do the kids learn each, and in what order?  To me the main question is when are they taught phonics.  Again, to me, Sight Words, at least as implemented in our public schools, seem like a stalling tactic designed to slow kids down (sounds mean, but I really have trouble coming up with another reason to delay phonics until 4th grade).  I also agree with the author that being taught two ways can be confusing, because I can see the kids trying to figure out whether a particular word is one that they were supposed to remember, or one they are to sound out.

Anyway, just my take.

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« Reply #452 on: April 13, 2016, 03:18:14 PM »

Hello Robert,

I am pleased to hear you live in Houston. We live in Houston too and are on the Saxon path. My 8 yr is currently on 8/7 and my 6yr old twins are on 6/5. I started my kids on soroban abacus mental math with Abacus Brain Gym and thanks to that training they learned to love math. I know you mentioned math isn't fun,  but my kids love doing Saxon and math. I credit that to Abacus Brain Gym though, because their mental math speed and competence set them on a solid path.

It would be wonderful to get the opportunity to meet with you and learn from you. Please let me know if you would be interested in meeting.

Pearl

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