What to do when your kids go to school?

[Curly]

Hi all,

I believe most babies can read if their parents have taught them how to read when they were very young.

I am wondering what is going to happen and what we shall do when our kids go to school? Will they loss their attention during class since they have known those alphabets or simple words long time ago. I believe this is a big problem for those kids who have accepted early education and have read a great range of books when they were young. Simple knowledge offered in class will not attract those kids. Because I haven't studied in Western country before, I am very concerned about this issue.

Do you have any experience regarding this issue? What did you do? I also want to know if Western County's schools (I lived in Australia) provide flexibility or some "freedom" to students (such as you may be allowed to read your own book in class or do your own thing quietly.)

I really wish someone could share your experience, That's the same problem we all need to confront with when our kids grow up! Thank you!

Curly

[Aguh]

Hi all,

yes, that's also my question. It seems that lots of parents at this forum do homeschooling or choose Montessori school for their kids. But what happens if those choices is not available and the kid go to a normal school?

Hope that someone would share your experience, too. Thanks.

[purplefungi]

I just got done watching the movie, Teach Your Baby to Read, and in the movie Glenn Doman addresses the concern. He says that when children do movie away from the Institutes of Higher Achievement and go into regular schools, that they are usually the leaders and at the top of their class. This makes since because they have been taught things as babies and toddlers that their peers are now learning in school.

From personal experience of schools in the United States, Minnesota and Michigan schools usually frown upon letting students skip grades. They think that it will be too stressful and even harmful for the child to be in a different classroom with peers of a different age. Teachers would probably not allow students to read different books in the classroom unless you had a very understanding teacher and progressive teacher.

In high school, I was allowed to test out of classes, however I had to do a lot of the work that I would have had to do normally in the year such as reading books, writing papers, attending city council meetings, and so forth. Testing out allowed me to graduate and go to college early, however my school did not make the process easy.

If my parents did Doman with me, I think that I would have been very bored in school. I still would have done well because I have a natural drive to succeed, however I would think that the lessons were stupid. It would have been a waste of my time. As an example, in third grade (in a Minnesota school) I had the same reading book that I had in fourth grade (in a Michigan shool). I was bored out of my mind. It was boring and easy in third grade and to have to do it over again in the fourth grade was just stupid. I even told my teacher that I had the same book the year before, and she didn't care. Oh well. Another wasted year me.

[Curly]

Thank you very much for sharing, Purplefungi. It might be very boring for you to go to school to learn something you've learned long time ago.

My worries is if school doesn't offer any flexibility, my child will definitely loss interest in class. What shall we do as parents? Stop working and homeschooling our kids? or as Aguh said, send them to Montessori school? Is there any other options?

Can any other parents share your story? Thank you!

[Frukc]

When I prepare my materials I try to choose things which are not the same as in the school. I mean, I try not to follow the school program but teach something else which develops my child and is interesting for both of us. For example, I teach her ~20 butterfly species, bird songs and rare wild flowers and I am sure that this will not overlap with the school

[Curly]

Yeah, Frukc. I agree with you. :P

I'm worried kids might get bored in studying and it probably will daunt them to go to school. You know less social life ...less interaction with peers.. either because they are so different or they are studying at home. 

I would love to hear any other good advices if you have successfully homeschooled your kids, helping them thrive academically, socially and mentally.

[jaluitgirl]

HI Everyone,

This is one of my concerns too and I'm trying to do some research on it.  However, being in a rural part of Alaska, makes it a bit hard.  So any help from you will be greatly appreciated too.

Ok - so I"m an elementary classroom teacher in a remote Eskimo village.  So the issues in our school are mainly trying to keep up with the state standards and the standards of the US.  We are economically disadvantaged and most of our students come to school not fluent in either their home language or English.  Basically, our kids are WAY behind.

But my son is bilingual and already reading since he was 18 months old.  He knows so many things...... So I am VERY concerned about school.  Not that I won't be able to supplement from home.   But I feel that by the time my son gets to school he is even going to outgrow even what I can do for him given our limited amount of resources in this rural and remote situation.

So here's the thing, I believe it is federal law - perhaps the Family Educational Rights and Education Act (FERPA)  (I forget) anyhow, Gifted and Talented children fall under the rules of Special Education and by law they must have accomodations and an individualized education plan  (IEP).  Now the problem is when and how are gifted and also special needs children identified. 

Right now there is a big push to "child find" in preschool.  Also from a SPED standpoint it goes much faster if a child has been identified in pre-school.  So in the case of our village if a healthcare worker or a pre-school teacher or a parent suspects that their child has a learning disability, we try to get them to see a medical doctor and a psychologist for identification so that by the time the child enters kindergarten the individualized education plan is already created and teachers know what to do from day one.

Well the problem is that this is a pretty accepted approach for children with learning delays but at least in my village nothing is done for the "gifted" student.  However, I've never seen a student come into kindergarten yet being able to read.  So that might just be an issue here in our village.  I talked with our school SPED teacher and I guess that our district doesn't have a "gifted" program.  However, I find that hard to believe as our state mandates that money go towards gifted programs - so maybe kids in Anchorage get all the money - I don't know. 

So what I need to find out next is at what age can a student be identified as gifted and how it is done.  I suspect that it will be through a psychologist and probably with a test like the Standford-Binet or the Wechsler Preschool & Primary Scale of Intelligence – III (WPPSI-III).  Some states wait until 2nd grade once standardized tests are given and the student scores 90% better than their peers.  Alaska doesn't test until 3rd grade and in my opinion that is just too late. 

Anyhow, I just wanted to bring this up because I am sure that many parents are not informed that gifted students have legal rights just as special needs students do.  And that the schools must make accomodations for gifted students.

I'm running out of time for this post - but anyhow, if anyone finds out the age students can begin to be identified and what the standard process is - I'd appreciate it.  And of course I will share once I know.  But please realize that the public schools have an obligation to serve your child at his or her level. 

[DadDude]

This is another reason we're planning to homeschool.  I explained my take here...

[iLusion]

I am in houston, Tx. Here in public schools, a special program for gifted starts 1st grade onwards. Identification and education for gifted is started at that time.

One more option is there are seperate schools for gifted and talented children here. (I don't know about other states) They have an entrance test for admissions to kindergarten.

[nhockaday]

Here, in SC, the public school system is a joke. We are behind the rest of the country. They determine your grade by age, not by intelligence. Your child's birthday has to be before August in order to be in a certain grade. So if you have a 5 year old who turns 6 on August 15, he will have to be stuck in kindergarten with all the 5 year olds, some of them who will be 5 until the end of the school year. One of my sister's birthdays is September 9. She knew everything needed to get into kindergarten, plus she knew everything needed to graduate kindergarten. She passed all their exams with flying colors, but because her birthday was one month past the deadline, she still had to enter kindergarten. She has always excelled in school. She is an all-a student and she plays 2 instruments. I think she still would have done just as well in school if she was allowed to skip kindergarten. Like I said, she already knew everything they taught her anyways.

[staceycanada]

they are usually the leaders and at the top of their class.

I found this tobe very true with my dd.  She was always ahead of the other children in her class but never seemed to mind. She always understood the concepts easily and was able to help others. There was always new things for her to do as well. Maybe they learned a new song, did an art project, etc.

Luckily my daughter had wonderful teachers who would allow her to read her own books and gave her extra work that was harder.

[purplefungi]

I think that it all depends on the school system. Some are better than others. In my area, they stink.

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