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« on: October 20, 2008, 09:41:14 PM »

I am seriously considering this as an option for our family. When I think about it I get all excited at the possibilities and endless opportunities to teach my kids.

But then I get all panicky thinking about it at the same time. For instance, how do you juggle four different levels? How do you keep the house in any kind of order? How do you give each child especially the older ones the individual instruction that they would need, without the little one interrupting every two seconds?

Also, and this makes me a little guilty for thinking it, but do you ever get any personal time?

My kids also fight with each other A LOT. I would hope that being away from the influence of other children all the time and getting used to being with each other would help, but I do worry about this being an issue.

And where to begin? I have so many worries. I know this could be a very rewarding experience for us all. But I would hate to screw it up.

Any insight from those that are experienced??


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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 01:35:45 AM »

i have worked as a home school consultant for 2 years
it is a big decision so it's normal to panic
your first year will be the hardest so be prepared for it  Sad
first off
how old are your kids?
are they in school?
do they like it?
does your husband want to home school?
will you do all the teaching?


go online there is so much you can learn about homeschooling from the internet
there are tons different styles and methods so learn about them before you start
join a support group
there are also a lot of really great books to help get you started

some of the most common home schooling methods are
Classical education (including Trivium, Quadrivium), Charlotte Mason education, Montessori method, Theory of multiple intelligences, Unschooling, Waldorf education, School-at-home, A Thomas Jefferson Education. but don't feel like you have to chose just one. pick what you like out of each and develop your own personalized curricula.

Unit studies

The unit study approach incorporates several subjects — such as art, history, math, science, geography and theology — around the context of one topical theme – like water, animals, American slavery, or ancient Rome. For example, a unit study of Native Americans could combine age-appropriate lessons in: social studies, how different tribes lived prior to colonization vs. today; art, making Native American clothing; history (of Native Americans in the U.S.); reading from a special reading list; and the science of plants used by Native Americans.

Unit studies are particularly helpful for teaching multiple grade levels simultaneously, as the topic can easily be adjusted (i.e. from an 8th grader detailing and labeling a spider’s anatomy to an elementary student drawing a picture of a spider on its web). As it is generally the case that in a given "homeschool" very few students are spread out among the grade levels, the unit study approach is an attractive option.

Unit study advocates assert that children retain 45% more information following this approach.

All-in-one curricula

"All-in-one" curricula, sometimes called a "school in a box", are comprehensive packages covering many subjects; usually an entire year's worth. They contain all needed books and materials.

Typically, these materials recreate the school environment in the home and are based on the same subject-area expectations as publicly run schools, allowing an easy transition into school. They are among the more expensive options, but are easy to use and require minimal preparation. The guides are usually extensive, with step-by-step instructions. These programs may include standardized tests.
some popular ones are
A Beka (they even have dvd's where kids see a teacher teach the class)
SOS which is done on the computer

Student-paced learning

Similar to All-in-one curricula are learner-paced curriculum packages. These workbooks allow the student to progress at their own speed.

Online education

Online schools and educational resources can improve the quality of homeschooling and make it more accessible. Online resources for homeschooling include courses of study, educational games, online tests, online tutoring, and occupational training.


 
Homeschool co-ops
Groups of homeschooling families often join together to create Homeschool co-ops. These groups typically meet once a week and provide a classroom environment. These are family-centered support groups whose members seek to pool their talents and resources in a collective effort to broaden the scope of their children's education. They provide a classroom environment where students can do hands-on and group learning such as performing, science experiments, art projects, foreign language study, spelling bees, discussions, etc. Parents whose children take classes serve in volunteer roles to keep costs low and make the program a success.


Unschooling

The term "unschooling" as coined by John Holt describes an approach in which parents do not authoritatively direct the child's education, but interact with the child following the child's own interests, leaving them free to explore and learn as their interests lead. "Unschooling" does not indicate that the child is not being educated, but that the child is not being "schooled", or educated in a rigid school-type manner. Holt asserted that children learn through the experiences of life, and he encouraged parents to live their lives with their child. Also known as interest-led or child-led learning, unschooling attempts to follow opportunities as they arise in real life, through which a child will learn without coercion. An unschooled child may utilize texts or classroom instruction, but these are not considered central to education. Holt asserted that there is no specific body of knowledge that is, or should be, required of a child.

"Unschooling" should not be confused with "deschooling," which may be used to indicate an anti-"institutional school" philosophy, or a period or form of deprogramming for children or parents who have previously been schooled.


Charlotte Mason education

Probably the best known of Mason's methods is her use of living books instead of dry, factual textbooks. Living books are usually written by one person who has a passion for the subject and writes in conversational or narrative style. The size of the book does not matter nearly as much as whether it is "alive" and engaging. Textbooks are allowed if they meet that criterion. "Twaddle" refers to books or information that is dumbed down and insults the child's intelligence. Living books should be used with as many subjects as possible.

Children are expected to tell about what they have read. The narration can be oral, written or drawn and should be performed after only one reading of the material. This method requires the child to synthesize all he has read, organize it in his mind, and determine how best to communicate all that he recalls in his own words.

Mason encouraged a child's learning the habits of attention, perfect execution, obedience, truthfulness, an even temper, neatness, kindness, order, respect, remembering, punctuality, gentleness, and cleanliness, among others. Usually, a child would work on a specific habit over a four to six week period.

Mason advocated short lessons for younger children, growing progressively longer as the child matures. Elementary-age children's lessons should be no longer than fifteen or twenty minutes on one particular subject before moving on to something else. In this way, the habit of full attention is encouraged and children receive a broad education filled with many varied subjects.

Charlotte used prepared dictation to teach spelling and reinforce grammar and composition skills. In prepared dictation, the child is given a sentence or passage to study until he is sure he knows all the spelling, capitalization, and punctuation. The teacher then dictates the passage to him, one phrase at a time, watching carefully as he writes to catch any misspelled word and correct it immediately. In this way, spelling is taught within the context of great thoughts and rich language instead of static lists.

Handwriting was also taught within the context of ideas, not isolated letters repeated over an entire line or page. For copywork, children are given a phrase, sentence, or paragraph to copy in their best handwriting. The exercise should take only a few minutes each day so as to encourage the habits of attention and perfect execution without becoming tiring.

Art is another place where living ideas are found. The great ideas of men and women of history are revealed in their works, whether paintings or writings or music. Art appreciation is taught through Picture Study, which introduces the child to the works of a great artist one at a time, allows her to look at it undisturbed, then asks for a narration of what she has observed. Music Appreciation is taught in much the same way, listening to the works of great composers.

A Huge amount of time is to be devoted to spending time outdoors. For nature study, children take along a sketchpad to draw and label the different aspects of nature they observe. Regular nature study paves the way for meaningful science instruction.

Mason emphasised the importance of children's understanding mathematical concepts before ever doing paper and pencil equations. They should be encouraged to use manipulatives and to think through the whys and wherefores of solving word problems -- in other words, how mathematics applies to life situations.

Poetry is an integral part of daily life. However, poetry is not presented in order to be analysed, criticised, and told what to think about it. Poetry, as in other subjects that introduce the child to great ideas of the past, is shared together and allowed to stand on its own, encouraging the child to develop his own relationship with that poet and his thoughts.

Students studied Shakespeare regularly.

Since grammar is the study of words, not of things, Mason thought it is a difficult concept for young children to grasp. She recommended postponing the formal study of grammar until the child reached the age of ten. Consistent practice in narration, dictation, and copywork lays the foundation for grammar study.

Mason's method of studying the Bible was simple: read it every day. She gave children credit for being able to understand passages directly from the Scriptures, and she assigned several large portions to be memorised and recited each school year.

History is considered most relevant to children through the use of living books, biographies, autobiographies, and narration. In addition, Mason's students kept a Book of Centuries that was similar to a personal time line in a notebook. They added people and events to the pages as they studied about them.

Just as history is the story of what happened to a person, geography is the story of where he was and how his surroundings affected what happened. Geography is best taught through living books, also. Short map drills can supplement.

Since Mason lived in England, her students learned French as a second language. Consistent with her philosophy, a foreign language is best taught in a living setting.


Classical education

Western classical education has three phases, each with a different purpose.

"Primary education" teaches students how to learn.

"Secondary education" then teaches a conceptual framework that can hold all human knowledge (history), and then fills in basic facts and practices of the major fields of knowledge, and develops the skills (perhaps in a simplified form) of every major human activity.

"Tertiary education" then prepares a person to pursue an educated profession, such as law, theology, military strategy, medicine or science.

Primary education was often called the trivium, which covered grammar, logic, and rhetoric.

Logic and rhetoric was often taught in part by the Socratic method, in which the teacher raises questions and the class discusses them.

Grammar consists of language skills such as reading and the mechanics of writing. An important goal of grammar is to acquire as many words and manage as many concepts as possible so as to be able to express and understand clearly concepts of varying degrees of complexity. Very young students can learn these by rote especially through the use of chant and song. Classical education traditionally included study of Latin and Greek, which greatly reinforced understanding of grammar, and the workings of a language, and so that students could read the Classics of Western Civilization in the words of the authors.

Logic (dialectic) is the art of correct reasoning. The traditional text for teaching logic was Aristotle's Logic.  Training in logic, both formal and informal, enables students to critically examine arguments and to analyze their own.

Rhetoric debate and composition (which is the written form of rhetoric) are taught to somewhat older (often high school aged) students, who by this point in their education have the concepts and logic to criticize their own work and persuade others. According to Aristotle "Rhetoric is the counterpart of dialectic." It is concerned with finding "all the available means of persuasion." The student has learned to reason correctly in the Logic stage so that they can now apply those skills to Rhetoric. Students would read and emulate classical poets such as Ovid and others in learning how to present their arguments well.

Secondary education, classically the quadrivium or "four ways," classically taught astronomy, arithmetic, music and geometry, usually from Aristotle and Euclid. Sometimes architecture was taught, often from the works of Vitruvius.

 A Thomas Jefferson Education

In the book DeMille reinforces the use of what he calls "Seven Keys of Great Teaching":

1. Classics, not Textbooks
2. Mentors, not Professors
3. Inspire, not Require
4. Structure Time, not Content
5. Quality, not Conformity
6. Simplicity, not Complexity
7. You, not Them


that is just a little bit to get you started
hope it helps
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 02:44:44 PM »

Wow Tatianna, that was wonderful. Karma to you!

I still really like the idea, however, after a few long talks with my husband we have decided that we will continue to do what we are doing, which is public school. My oldest son will start middle school next year and I'm just not sure if I can keep up with him and what he needs to learn. Plus, focus on what the little ones need to learn.

I will continue to be very involved in their education though. I just wish there were more hours in the day rolleyes

Thank you again for such a wonderful summary of programs!

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2008, 12:51:20 PM »

Tatianna, thank you very much for your detailed summary on homeschooling. I am really interested in this topic, though homeschooling is not an option here in Ukraine Sad  I would probably homeschool my child because I am not satisfied with the way our schools do it. Unfortunately my daughter will have to go to school in 5 years...

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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 04:49:12 PM »

Diana: I did not know that homeschooling was illegal in Ukraine and always thought that the only countries that prohibited it were China, Germany, and to a certain extent, Brazil. I looked up Ukraine on Home School Legal Defense Association's website (http://www.hslda.org/) and read that the Ukrainian government now allows homeschooling. You can read the article here:

http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/hslda/200306/200306090.asp

Their official statement on the laws of homeschooling in Ukraine say:

Legal Status of Homeschooling: Statute on the Final Attestation of December 14, 2000 provides for homeschooling. However, similar to the United States, local authorities often ignore the federal laws and arbitrarily impose additional regulations.

Estimated Number of Homeschoolers: Less than 100 families


If you're serious about homeschooling it is indeed legal, although, as stated above, local authorities sometimes ignore that just like in the USA. I can't tell you home many stories I have heard of local authorities in the US harassing the parental rights of homeschooling parents and attempting to impose all kinds of imaginary laws on them, even though the laws don't exist. It just comes from the mind-set that children are the property of the state, not of parents, and that is where so many disillusioned authorities base their accusations. But for parents who are serious about it it is more than worth it. If you're still considering it, hopefully by the time your daughter is school-age the oppression in your country will have changed with the help of the hslda and other homeschooling parents fighting it in the courts. The hslda is a wonderful organization and I can't even imagine where parental rights would be without all the work they've done. They're currently working very hard in Germany too, where homeschooling is indeed illegal, and are making a lot of ground.

This is their section on International homeschooling laws for anyone else outside the US who wants to find out more about the laws in their country:

http://www.hslda.org/hs/international/default.asp

For those in the USA who want to learn about the homeschooling laws in their state, the link is here:

http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp

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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 06:14:05 PM »

karma to both of you tatianna and DomanMom.

These information are very useful. Because of what I read, I begin to become interested
in homeschooling my son. I thought that this will be less expensive and less stressful than to enroll him in a regular school.

Homeschooling is not popular in our place. Even 3 yr. old kids are enrolled in either public or
private schools here.

I have so much to ask about homeschooling in our country. I will definitely contact Mr. Mendoza
about this.
Thanks again for the link Elizabeth.

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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 08:31:05 PM »

Dear Elizabeth,
thank you very much for that link. It was really a surprise for me to know that homeschooling is legal in Ukraine. Actually now everything is changing so fast here that we are not able to keep track of all the changes.  wacko I also hope that in several years the situation will change for all homeschooling families here in Ukraine and that there will be more homeschooling families. Another problem here is that we don't really have many internet resources in Ukrainian...  But that's another topic already  smile  Anyway, I am very glad to hear such a great news. Thanks for your attention.

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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2008, 02:12:40 PM »

Dear Tatianna,

I have a soon-to-be 4 yr old boy. I was thinking of using the winter vacation as a practice run for homeschooling. There's so much information that I don't know where or how to start. What do you suggest? Thanks!

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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2008, 08:56:07 PM »

I teach freshman English at a local college. When I saw that several of my students (who had graduated from high school) could barely read, I decided to take my kids education in my own hands.

There are lots of homeschool families in our area and even a homeschool support group. We also enjoy attending homeschool book fairs and conferences.

Good luck to you!!

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2008, 02:04:38 AM »

dear ev
karma to you for thinking about starting out homeschooling
when i first read your post i thought you had the whole winter to try out homeschooling
 i just saw that you wrote winter vacation but i already wrote the post
so i hope this helps please post any questions you have

i like to think of home education as place where ideas flourish
if nothing else give your child one new idea to think about everyday
and you will be doing far better then most schools  
  
you could start out with a complete curriculum which you could buy online
but what i would do is make your own Charlotte Mason style curriculum  
does your son read?
if not i would work on teaching him to read as the main part of your school time

first start off with a simple plan of what you want to accomplish in the amount of time you have
lets say for the three winter months  
i am not sure what your child already know but here is a little idea of what your plan could include

learn in the three winter months
colors
shapes
numbers
simple addition
planets
10 local birds  
10 local trees
10 local flowers
parts of the body
three simple poems
learn to write

get a simple Science book for kids (Science is Simple is one that i really like) do one experiment everyday
spend lots of time outdoors playing and learning about the world  
get a little notebook and keep it for recording all the cool things your son discovers from nature
do nature walks and gather things for a simple collage of the season  

read real books with big words and exciting subjects
start poetry with your son "a child's garden of verses" is a great place to start
after reading some poetry pick one you both like and read it every day till you child learns it by heart
your son can practice writing by copying one little line of the poem a day
he can also draw or paint a picture of the poem

learn some of the music of the great composers start with one composer and play there music everyday
you can also read about the composer and look at a picture as well

practice narration ( having your child retell in his own words what you just read to him)
this is a wonderful tool for learning everything  
read one page of a story then ask your child what happened in the story

keep the lessons very very short
15 minutes is long enough for any one subject
try to have long breaks with lots of outdoors time

now is a wonderful time to start art
learn about one artist at a time
(brillkids has lots of great downloads of painters)  
let him use paint and some brushes to create his own masterpieces

most of all just enjoy being with your son
don't feel pressured to do more then your ready for
start slowly try one new thing a day
just have fun, the most important thing right now is that your son is enjoying learning
you will feel overwhelmed but that is okay we all feel that way yes


remember your the expert trust yourself
you are your son's best teacher

God bless
tatianna
 

 


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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2008, 06:40:13 AM »

Dear Titianna,

Wow I'm really blown away by your post! Thank you so much for that inspiring, detailed suggestions! I'm really motivated now. Karma to you!

God bless you!

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2008, 07:45:54 AM »

Dear Tatianna,

It's so wonderful to see your encouragements! And the start guide for homeschooling is awesome! I'm trying to come up with a lesson plan for each day. I have English and Chinese reading and math everyday. Then history, art, music, science once a week. That would add up to about 1 hour everyday. Does that look about right? The rest of the time he will be cycling, swimming, playing with his toys... maybe some outing.

Thanks!
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2008, 08:42:38 PM »

Tatiana,

What, exactly, does a homeschool consultant do? Do you meet with parents and determine what the best way to teach a child would be?? Or...?

Do you work for an organization, or are you self-employed. And should all homeschool parents see a consultant?

Sorry--I've just never heard of one before!

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2008, 06:29:52 AM »

dear Joan

it sounds like your doing a great job homeschooling
about how long you should study each day depends on a lot of things like:

where you live (every state or country has it's own laws about homeschooling)
how old your kids are (if they are 9 or under your totally fine)
what your goal for home schooling is
what program your using(you don't really need one)
and most importantly how you and your kids feel, if you guys are happy then your doing great yes

a good book to read is Homeschooling Odyssey by Matt James
Oftentimes we think that Homeschooling has to take 4-6 hours a day in order to be effective. Yet the James family has been able to send their children to one of the most prestigious universities in the country by homeschooling one hour a day. very cool


as to what a homeschool consultant is and do you need one let me try to answer
i am self employed, i work mostly with moms and dads with little or no knowledge of how to homeschool
and also with long time homeschoolers that just want to try something new
most of the parents i work with do not have access to homeschool support groups
i help parents write a philosophy of education, decide on a method that works for them, plan a curriculum, learn about record keeping, homeschool laws and basically where to begin
you do not need a consultant
but many parents are very nervous about homeschooling and are unsure of how to get started 
i always tell parents that they know there kids better then anyone else so you really don't need anyone else
a good support group is wonderful to have
and there is so much information easily available on the internet,in homeschooling magazines and really great books that with a little time you can learn so much
hope that answers you questions
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2008, 09:28:48 AM »

here are some more ideas of things to add to your plan

geography is a wonderful subject to start with any age
all you need is a good map(if you can get a laminated one even better)
a big world map as well as a map of the country you live in is a must
with very young kids you can just start with a simple drawing of the shape of a country then point it out on the big map (online you can find outlines of most countries of the word and A Beka Books makes great map cards)
with older kids researcher the country online or in a book
draw a picture of the country(you can get as detailed as you like)
paint a flag of the country
learn about any famous people from there,what language they speak etc 

learn more about the world around them
get a compass and learn all about north, south, east and west
see how long it takes to walk to the mail box or to the end of the road, count how many steps it takes
learn about what measurements really are
weigh and measure as many things as you can find, then compare them

plant a garden and learn about how food is made

visit a farm
after ask your child to describe what he saw

read to your child
even if your child already knows how to read continue to read to him
this way you can introduce more challenging vocabulary and subjects
remember to use living books and avoid Twaddle(books or information that is dumbed down and insults the child's intelligence ) always read books that are just a little advanced to encourage intellectual growth   

train your child to concentrate
a few minutes of focused learning is far better then 2 hours of unfocused school time
concentration is a skill not something you are born with so start slowly and with time you will see improvement

if your child has been in school expect some adjustment
it will be harder to keep the home in order so have your little one help and learn as you go
house chores can be a great learning tool( counting, colors, finding pairs, learning another language etc)

learning does not have to be kept inside the home
homeschooling give you the freedom to enjoy learning anywhere
if a school morning is not going well pack up a lunch and count the trees at a park
read a poem, paint, practice some Spanish 
don't feel trapped by your schedule
 
plan time for yourself
a happy mommy is a better teacher
having some time off will keep you inspired about your wonderful career as a home educator
and that enthusiasm will be contagious
 


 

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