My secret identity :-) & my essay

[Mae_Jakob_Ka]

Thanks so much for your hard work.

I actually found your method of teaching your son to read through childandme. I started using your method for 1.5 months and have seen positive results.
For example, when I sounded out f-a-n. My son would said "fan". 

We goes slowly through exercises from Felsch book. It's been 1.5 months and we just  started exercise 2 today.
Oh well..I just let my son take the lead and only do the exercise whenever he feels like to.

Elle

[DadDude]

Thanks, Elle and everyone.  I love to hear from people who have actually used Fleschcards.  I'm not surprised that some kids want to take breaks from using them.

What I really wonder, however, is whether anyone has gone through most or all of the cards, and if (as a result?) their kid can now read phonetically.  Of course, if you're like us, you can't say which tool did the trick, because you use many tools.  I'm also curious whether your child's enunciation has markedly improved (as mine did) just when using the cards.

[Chris1]

Cheap baby reading apps might dramatically increase the number of children who can read fluently prior to school age which will force experts to take these claims seriously.

The IAHP lose credibility when they claim that babies can subitize to 100 and continue to use an outmoded patterning treatment which is not supported by evidence.  Their patterning technique has failed when tested under controlled conditions. Research has also shown that babies can only perceive small quantities (1-3) directly by instant recognition.

Makoto Shichida.
Doman and Shichida both claim that babies can perform lightning-fast calculations – again not supported by any credible evidence.
Shichida  also claims that he has a scientific theory and evidence for ESP and teaches ESP to babies!

Child development specialists are unlikely to investigate any claims made by the IAHP or Schichida.

Chris.
This  NeuroLogica Blog response dated 16/09/2009 by John Rullman is very interesting
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=569

This is my last post-thank you, goodbye to all and best wishes.   

[Twinergy]

I can give you our progress report.  We are up to set 12 and my kids are reading CVC words and blends.  They just started watching Leapfrog Letter Factory & Talking Words Factory which has added new enthusiasm to their lessons; they hadn't been interested in the cards since last August.  The twins are now 38 months old and we were having difficulties getting them interested in the Fleschcards at the same time; so of course one would distract the other after only a few cards.  Now they are asking me to read with them.  I am making review books from the Fleschcards, some of the same words and some new words, to make it new for them, and if they get stuck I will sing the Leapfrog phonics song to help them along.  Before we start digraphs I'm hoping to find some resources to introduce the sounds. 

[DadDude]

Cheap baby reading apps might dramatically increase the number of children who can read fluently prior to school age which will force experts to take these claims seriously.

Yeah, I think so too!  And on that, see my latest blog post.

The IAHP lose credibility when they claim that babies can subitize to 100 and continue to use an outmoded patterning treatment which is not supported by evidence.  Their patterning technique has failed when tested under controlled conditions. Research has also shown that babies can only perceive small quantities (1-3) directly by instant recognition.

Makoto Shichida.
Doman and Shichida both claim that babies can perform lightning-fast calculations – again not supported by any credible evidence.
Shichida  also claims that he has a scientific theory and evidence for ESP and teaches ESP to babies!

Child development specialists are unlikely to investigate any claims made by the IAHP or Schichida.

Chris.
This  NeuroLogica Blog response dated 16/09/2009 by John Rullman is very interesting
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=569

This is my last post-thank you, goodbye to all and best wishes.    

This is very interesting.  Are you quoting from something?  "Psychomotor patterning" has nothing to do with Doman's baby reading method, does it?  I didn't think it did.

As to Shichida teaching ESP--that's news to me!  If so (and it seems to be so), that pretty much does it for me--no need to investigate Shichida.  Anybody who pretends to teach ESP is a charlatan, no two ways about it.

That Doman-trained babies either have or haven't genuinely learned to subitize large numbers, that seems like it could easily be proven under carefully designed conditions.  It just requires some properly-designed tests.  I still have a lot of doubts, so much so that I'm not really interested in doing Doman math with my second baby, but I'm open to actual evidence.

The Steven Novella blog is not especially persuasive.  The response to him further down, by John Rullman, really hit the ball out of the park.  Really embarrassed him, as far as I'm concerned.  I still have to post a reply to my essay from Steven Novella on my blog; I just haven't gotten around to it.

Aha, so you are leaving?  Well, that's a shame.  So long!

[DadDude]

I can give you our progress report.  We are up to set 12 and my kids are reading CVC words and blends.  They just started watching Leapfrog Letter Factory & Talking Words Factory which has added new enthusiasm to their lessons; they hadn't been interested in the cards since last August.  The twins are now 38 months old and we were having difficulties getting them interested in the Fleschcards at the same time; so of course one would distract the other after only a few cards.  Now they are asking me to read with them.  I am making review books from the Fleschcards, some of the same words and some new words, to make it new for them, and if they get stuck I will sing the Leapfrog phonics song to help them along.  Before we start digraphs I'm hoping to find some resources to introduce the sounds. 

Thanks for the report--sounds good.  It's a good idea to occasionally review old cards.

Yes, H. started those Leapfrog videos at about that stage, too--they're great.

[Twinergy]

I can give you our progress report.  We are up to set 12 and my kids are reading CVC words and blends.  They just started watching Leapfrog Letter Factory & Talking Words Factory which has added new enthusiasm to their lessons; they hadn't been interested in the cards since last August.  The twins are now 38 months old and we were having difficulties getting them interested in the Fleschcards at the same time; so of course one would distract the other after only a few cards.  Now they are asking me to read with them.  I am making review books from the Fleschcards, some of the same words and some new words, to make it new for them, and if they get stuck I will sing the Leapfrog phonics song to help them along.  Before we start digraphs I'm hoping to find some resources to introduce the sounds. 

Thanks for the report--sounds good.  It's a good idea to occasionally review old cards.

Yes, H. started those Leapfrog videos at about that stage, too--they're great.

Are there any other phonics videos you would recommend?

[Twinergy]

Since there was some interest in how I'm helping my twins interest in the Fleschcards along ( I've gotten some PM's)  I wanted to share some other tricks that I've come up with.  I've recruited the help of Mr. Frog, a puppet, who can't read and needs their help.  He gives them lots of enthuiastic encouragement shouting "you did it"  then talks about the picture everytime they get one correct.  Another thing is that I started emphasizing who's turn it is then give the card to the child who read it. This could also be done with an older child, perhaps a mama's helper, who already knows how to read and could model how to play the game to get them started or when they get stuck.

[kauaiheidi]

Hello DadDude

Thanks for sharing your essay.  You bring up some interesting questions – like why hasn’t baby reading gotten more serious attention by reading experts? Would it be possible to develop a very early reading program that gets 80% children who started a program under 2 reading phonetically by 3?  Or, possibly, 80% of babies who started under the age of 1 reading phonetically by age 2?  Does such a program or combination or programs already exist?  How would phonics be taught in such a program?

We may have to wait for scientific studies to answers some of long-term benefit questions, but I do hope you’re able to find time for the online survey you’ve mentioned.  Forum readers may not be representative of all families using very early reading programs, but it would still be interesting.  How many parents have had success with their children enjoying and responding to a very early reading program?  How many are recognizing words? How many are sounding out new words – and if so approximately how many words could they recognize before they started to sound out new words? What percentage, if any, of the words were presented in phonetic groupings, were individual letters sounded out and blended?  In cases where children learned to recognize words but did not readily make the leap to sounding out new words, did the children keep reading and learning new words, or did they lose interest?  Is there a specific aspect of a given program that causes a child to lose interest?  Short-term or long-term expectations etc?  How do parents feel about their culture’s image of very early reading programs? Do they feel defensive or proud when they tell other parents in their communities that they are using a very early reading program?

You raise some interesting issue in your Defense of Teaching the Very Young to Read. I know a lot of parents who have their 2 year olds in dance, gymnastics, swimming, music, soccer, play groups etc, etc, and who are aware of Your Baby Can Read, but chose not to use it.  Part of this may have to do with a perceived need to prioritize time based on personal interests so that there is still time for creative play.  But for many parents in my community I think their idea of a perfect childhood doesn’t include babies reading.   While I chose to use YBCR with my kids, I appreciate that other parents might not want their kids to learn to read as babies. 

My experience:  Both of my kids picked up word recognition (from YBCR and PowerPoint, with very little phonetic grouping).  Personally, having my kids sign words before they could even say them was a huge thrill for me.  As far as I was concerned they were reading - and loving it too.  I didn’t have any real expectations of them learning to read phonetically, as I assumed Aleka must have learned to recognized lots more words before she naturally figured out phonics.  I was happy with YBCR and think it can even be an excellent foundation for eventually learning to read phonetically, as my daughter did.

Why didn’t my son transition to reading phonetically? Would he have benefited from a more phonetic grouping of words?  I suppose there is always going to be a difference in general aptitude even among siblings (my fraternal twin picked up reading faster than I did), and also my son started when he was a year older and soon had many more competing interests.   And when my daughter was born I had little time and creative energy for continuing a reading program in an engaging way.  My daughter soon started watching YBCR, but my son had long outgrown the program.  I was not inclined to pressure him if he wasn’t interested and while he still loved to have books read to him, he essentially stopped reading for a couple years.  However, recently he decided he was interested again and picked up a Dick and Jane book and surprised both of us by being able to read much of it.

When Amelia was learning to say new words she would often sign “book” or hand me a piece of sidewalk chalk and say the word until I wrote it for her.  I would also add her new words to PowerPoint, until one day she just started repeating absolutely everything and I couldn’t keep up anymore.   I added pictures  of family, favorite toys, whatever she was interested in, often letting her select her own online image of whatever it was (as with YBCR the word showed up before the image).  When Amelia was 19 months her brother got model planets, so I added some of the planet names to the PowerPoint and read them to her.  Then I change the order and showed her again and was surprised that she remembered and read them.  The next day I was even more surprised that she still remembered and read them.  I thought she must have some sort of unusual memory, but when I tried our matching picture pairs with her she couldn’t remember more than 2 pairs.  So I think at that point she may have been beginning to intuitively understand phonetic rules.  She liked to watch phonics alphabet songs and the Silent E song on YouTube, which may have helped.  When she was around 2 she would occasionally surprise people by reading words on their T-shirts, even words she hadn’t seen or heard before. 

[DadDude]

Yes, H. started those Leapfrog videos at about that stage, too--they're great.

Are there any other phonics videos you would recommend?

Just catching up with this page!

Phonics videos for sub-fives are pretty rare.  There are phonics elements in all sorts of early learning videos, even Your Baby Can Read and Little Reader (if you want to call it a video), but I'm not familiar with any that focus on phonics the way the LeapFrog ones do.  That doesn't mean they don't exist, I simply never looked.

[Twinergy]

Just catching up with this page!

Phonics videos for sub-fives are pretty rare.  There are phonics elements in all sorts of early learning videos, even Your Baby Can Read and Little Reader (if you want to call it a video), but I'm not familiar with any that focus on phonics the way the LeapFrog ones do.  That doesn't mean they don't exist, I simply never looked.

Thanks for your reply.  I checked at the library and found Rock N Learn Phonics which has been working very well for us. 
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZmvQx5Uvr6c&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/ZmvQx5Uvr6c&rel=1</a>

[TeachingMyToddlers]

Re: Phonics Videos for sub-fives

The Preschool Prep Company is debuting their latest video, Meet the Phonics in the next month or so. I can't wait! My kids love their series and I am looking forward to using it with my 13 month old. They are cartoons so I'm pretty sure they won't show a mouth like Rock & Learn phonics, but my daughter learned everything else so quickly in their series that it doesn't concern me a whole lot.

www.preschoolprepco.com

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