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« on: May 22, 2008, 05:48:46 PM »

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"I added a new word to one of the categories in the Word Library, but when I play back the files, the word is not there!"
(An example is this: In the Word Library screen, you add the word "brother" to the Family category. Then you go to the Playback screen, and play back "Family," and the word "brother" does not appear in the playback!)

I think the above has good potential of becoming a Frequently Asked Question, so let me address it here.

If you encountered the above, the probable reason is that you added the word to a CATEGORY, but what you played back was a PLAY LIST.

One thing that encourages this confusion is that after a fresh installation, the Word Library is set to display Categories, and the Playback screen is set to display Playlists.

There are changes we are making that hopefully will help users avoid this confusion in the future, but for now, these are some of the things you can do, and things to note:


1. The simplest thing to do is to go to the Playback screen, and in the "Play from:" drop-down menu, make sure you select CATEGORIES (not Playlists!), and play back the relevant category.  The new word you added will be there when you play back.
Problem with this solution is that you can't save playback settings specifically for each category, so if you change your playback settings a lot, this is not the most efficient way of doing things.

2. Another quick fix is to go to the existing Playlist that you expected the word to be in (in the above example, that would be the "Family" Playlist), and then Edit the Playlist to include the new word also, so that the Playlist now also matches the Category.
Problem with this is that if you add many new words, you have double the work you do by having to make sure the Playlist also includes the new words each time you add some.

3. The best solution is this. Taking the above example, Edit the "Family" Playlist.  Click on the <--ALL button to remove all the words from the right window.  Now, click on the ALL--> button, and you will see one item on the right window, saying "Family (Category)".
Now, you can edit the Family category all you like, and the Family playlist will match it automatically at all times because it just plays back the category with all the words existing in it at that time.


We didn't create the current default Playlists this way, but rather, we added each word separately.  The reason we did this was so that when you click on a Playlist (in the Playback screen or Word Library screen), you would see all the words that were in the playlist, instead of just a one liner like "Family (Category)".  I think that in doing this (which was to make it look 'prettier'), we have inadvertantly caused all this confusion.

One of the changes we are making is to have the best of both worlds: When you click on "Family" playlist on the left window, you will see something like "{+} Family (Category)" on the right (with the extra "{+}" box).  If you click on this box, it will expand to show all the words within the Family category.

A related issue to this is the difference between Playlists and Categories and why we have these 2 concepts in the first place.  We'll be doing more to explain this clearly in the Quick Tour and the Manual, but in the meantime, we will do a dedicated post on this topic separately.


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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2008, 09:34:08 AM »

yeah took me about half an hour to work out how to do that!

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 01:34:54 PM »

Sorry about that, but glad you managed to figure it out in the end! smile

As I mentioned, this problem should disappear in the later beta builds.

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