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« on: April 01, 2010, 06:09:37 PM »

I have LR 1.6.300 installed – I can’t remember, but I might have upgraded recently  Was there a recent upgrade for LR?

We are on Day 49 of LR’s English (US) Semester 1.

Playback doesn’t seems to be working right anymore.
All my override settings are lost.

It seems to me that each word flash and picture flash session needs to be configured individually yet again – a major frustration!  

I used to be able to create override settings that would apply to each session, but it still only showed words for the Word Flash session, Word/Media for the Multisensory sessions, and only images for the Picture Flash session.

Is this still possible?  If so, how do I do it?
Because right now, Word Flash sessions and Picture Flash sessions behave exactly like Multisensory sessions.

Also, why do some of the common settings have two toggles on them?  
Rotate Media
Pronunciation On
Pic Audio On
Video On

If you count the global set on/off setting, those common settings have like 3 options, which is really confusing.
Not only that, but the last 3 setting have the ‘On’ qualifier.  It doesn’t read like a natural sentence at all.  
Finally, why is Pic not the full word, Picture?  A small pet peeve of mine…

In Words>Letter Case, the ‘Original case’ setting doesn’t appear any different from the ‘Capitalize first letter’ option.
What does Original case mean, anyway?  Wouldn't toggling that entire setting OFF use the letters exactly as they were typed in the original slide (i.e. Original case)?

In Picture Flash Mode settings, why must there be two on/off toggles for one setting?  When the first toggle is off, shouldn’t that be enough to say that setting is off?  Why the duplication of controls

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 10:18:09 AM »

I used to be able to create override settings that would apply to each session, but it still only showed words for the Word Flash session, Word/Media for the Multisensory sessions, and only images for the Picture Flash session.

Is this still possible?  If so, how do I do it?

I think there might be some confusion as to what Override can and cannot do.  What you describe should not be possible with Override.  Override settings (right now anyway) give you only ONE set of settings, which you can see when you click on the cogwheel settings button next to the Override button.  From there, you can choose which of the many settings you want to be activated to override. So you may choose to just override one function, and the rest will not override anything. For example if you want to turn the Pointer ON for all lessons, you activate the Pointer option, and turn it on. Then you make sure your Override button is ON.

But say you only want the pointer during Multisensory lessons and not for word flash lessons.  What you would have to do is to turn Override OFF during word flash lessons, and back on again during multisensory, because if you don't, EVERYTHING will have the pointer ON.

Unfortunately, this is a limitation in the current Override feature.  There is no way you can, say, apply one set of Override settings to word flash lessons, and another set to multisensory lessons.

In future versions, you WILL have the ability to do that - you'll be able to store different Override settings, and choose which type of lessons to apply it to. Maybe v1.7?  It's definitely on the list of 'to-do's' anyway.

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Also, why do some of the common settings have two toggles on them?  
Rotate Media
Pronunciation On
Pic Audio On
Video On

As you will probably understand by now, the first toggle is whether you want to activate this setting to override your lessons' settings.  After you turn it on, you must choose how you want LR to override.  If you turn pronunciation on, then all lessons will have pronunciation turned on, and if off, all lessons will have it turned off.

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If you count the global set on/off setting, those common settings have like 3 options, which is really confusing.

This setting merely allows you to activate all settings on or off instead of having to click on each of them individually.

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Not only that, but the last 3 setting have the ‘On’ qualifier.  It doesn’t read like a natural sentence at all.  

Whether it is ON/OFF, or just have a check box for on/off, these settings are all just duplicated from the Playback Settings to try to make it familiar to you, and they are like that in the Playback settings for different considerations (including space).

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Finally, why is Pic not the full word, Picture?  A small pet peeve of mine…

You mean Pic. audio?  Ah, that harks back to the days where the interface was smaller, and we didn't have space to put the full phrase.  Right now, for people with small screens, it CAN still be shrunk to that size, in which case having 'picture audio' would not fit...
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In Words>Letter Case, the ‘Original case’ setting doesn’t appear any different from the ‘Capitalize first letter’ option.
What does Original case mean, anyway?  Wouldn't toggling that entire setting OFF use the letters exactly as they were typed in the original slide (i.e. Original case)?

Let's say I had one word "U.S.A" and the next word "China".  If I choose capitalize first letter, then it would appear as "U.s.a" and "China", but original case would look like "U.S.A" and "China", and lower case would be "u.s.a" and "china".  Making the override 'off' just means that LR will look to the Category's or lesson's playback settings to see what to apply.

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In Picture Flash Mode settings, why must there be two on/off toggles for one setting?  When the first toggle is off, shouldn’t that be enough to say that setting is off?  Why the duplication of controls

I think you can probably answer this yourself by now after reading the above!

I understand how it can be confusing, because we are dealing with several levels of controls.  We were going to write up an extensive guide to explain this, but unfortunately, so many things to do, so little time (as always)... smile, so we were hoping that most people would figure it out themselves in the meantime, and if not, ask and we shall answer, like what we're doing now!

Let me know if there's any more confusion.  If there's any suggestions you have to make it better, please let us know!

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 07:03:53 PM »

Honestly, I feel like I'm going a bit crazy because ever since the Override feature was introduced, and I configured it I was able to do the following with no problems:

-Play the Word Flash sessions correctly (only word slides).  I never had to adjust the individual playback settings for any future word flash sessions.  They all worked the same.  In fact, I recall another email thread where you told me how to prevent some sessions from taking on the override settings...and it worked back then.

-Play the Multisensory sessions correctly, according to override settings.

-Play Picture Flash sessions correctly, never had to adjust or change any Override switches, etc.

Basically, each lesson played perfectly for me.  All I had to do was hit the space bar or mouse to proceed to the next session.  So, something has definitely changed.  Is it possible that it's a bug?  Is my version a beta version?  Did I accidentally revert back to a less stable build?

Is it possible that I have to uncheck the Playback mode of the Override settings in order for the word and picture flash sessions to work right?

**Update:  I've got it working like I had it before because I unchecked Playback Mode completely from the Override settings which allows the default playback setting on the individual sessions to express itself. :-) 

**Issue:  The red message that one sees in the individual session pages is not really accurate after all.  It says that Setting Override is ON so the settings displayed there will not take effect, but indeed one of the settings will take effect because I turned off that setting entirely in the Override settings.  Maybe one suggestion is to change that alert message a bit.  Is the system aware of which Override settings are turned off?  If yes, then perhaps they can be listed in the alert message to tell users which settings will be pulled from the local settings page.

Wow, all these settings are overwhelming!  There's got to be a simpler way to communicate all the options.  Definitely a work in progress.   yes  big grin



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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 08:08:13 AM »

Glad you got it sorted! smile

Yes, that message is not entirely accurate. It should say that "SOME OR ALL settings may not take effect". Thanks for pointing that out.

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LR will ALWAYS be a work in progress for the foreseeable future!  big grin (You should see v1.1.100! smile )
In the meantime, if you have any specific ideas as to how to improve it, we're (as always) all ears!

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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 07:23:26 PM »

Unfortunately I don't see or a have a "cog wheel" to click on next to my "Override" button (the override button seems to be hogging the entire space as only one button.)...??

(I do have a cog wheel button next to my pointer ON/OFF button...but not next to my override button...so...???)

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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 02:33:55 AM »

Can you take a screenshot?
http://forum.brillkids.com/forum-how-tos-and-faqs/how-to-do-a-screenshot/


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