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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2012, 06:51:06 PM »

Is the book Bill Handley Teach Your Children Tables worth getting and useful for my 4 year old?  Also, I am just learning about the Soroban method of math in these posts, how should I get started in trying to teach my kids?  What is needed?

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2012, 03:15:30 AM »

I was asked for a link to the Bill Handley book so here it is
http://www.bookdepository.com/search/advanced?searchAuthor=Bill+Handley
He has a number of books and althought they are easily obtainable in Australia ( at half the price or less!) they seem to be out of stock in a lot of places that ship worldwide...guess they are popular perhaps. The page link has a number of books, the one we were playing around with is "teach your children tables"  but the book I have is a two for one which also has "speed math for kids" ..if you give me til the end of the week I will go through both books and post a summary or something.  He teaches methods that work with all numbers, they seemed simpler than what was explained above.
As to age groups, well my 4 year old would have no chance at it, he is average math ability for a four year old ( maybe slighty above, he counts well...forever and always! LOL ) My 6 year old managed it on paper but will take a fair amount of practice to get it mentally and my 8 year old found it easy. So I would say you need it for your kids when they can figure out their two times tables and are curious about multiplication. So some brillkids kiddos would be ready at age 4 but its not a beginners program...it fits in to 2nd grade math in Australia.  I think it would be very useful for parents to work at it first, see if you can get it mentally! ( optional not necessary of course) he has a website...I think it was called speedmath and it had an explanation of the times tables technique we were playing with.  I will add the link soon.
Here is the website link, it is strait to the times table technique not the home page.
http://www.virtual.net.au/~bhandley/lua2.htm


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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2012, 12:41:46 AM »

Thank you, Mandabplus3


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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2012, 06:37:43 AM »

interesting post here... I know what you are going to describe the math technique where has been shown upper part...
Vedic Math . I also have a book but yet to finish all... anyway good post here.... thanks...

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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2012, 10:26:51 AM »

So if you only want to buy one Bill Handly book get "speed math for kids" it has all the stuff in the times tables book plus division, and other things. If it is specifically multiplication by mental means you want to teach, the detail in the times table book is better, but not necessary for success. The books are quite similar.
 I can give a more detailed summary if any one asks me too. These are a great first step for parents wondering what is possible and are a cheap introduction to developing math skills mentally. I can now after a few days of practicing while lying in bed at night, do some double digit multiplication in my head. Eg 97x 94= 9118  yep I did it in my head smile (once you get the book you won't be surprised by that one!) It's an easy fun read at the least.
One of the things he teaches is that it's important to use the fastest and easiest way to solve a problem. For instance if you can remember the 9 times tables trick and it is quicker than this other method, use it! I can't believe how much little effort it was this week to get my daughter to practice her tables! good advice anyway.

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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2012, 11:14:14 AM »

Hi Mandabplus3!

I am interested in a more detailed summary of "Speed Math for Kids." I am so tempted to just order it but am wondering whether it would be much too advanced for my daughter and would just be collecting dust on my bookshelf. She is a few months shy of 4, but has skip counting and her times tables 2-12 down pat. She can multiply two-digit numbers from left to right using the abacus/soroban, but is still working on doing it mentally. She thinks and talks about numbers all the time! She was practicing violin the other week when she excitedly blurted out, "Mama, I discovered something in my head! Divide is the opposite of times! So, 6 divided by 2 is 3, and 8 divided by 2 is 4, and... (so on and so forth)" At that time, I had not started teaching her division yet, except for showing her Doman equations and Tweedlewink. Btw, I am also doing Jones Geniuses with her, and I wondered if there is a lot of similarities (if any) between the two programs?

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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2012, 11:34:50 PM »

What an amazing opportunity your daughter has had! To be able to learn math young enough that she has the time and opportunity to figure out divide all by herself is quite priceless. She completely understands the concept now for life  big grin She could use the book now. It is quite different to abacus and if you are in an Anzan based program you may need to make the differences clear. Otherwise she ay use one when you want her to be learning the other smile I don't think it's much like jones genius, but i don't have it so....
Ok so my book report  LOL
Teaching times tables
Times tables- intro
Multiplication- this teaches the simple method of mentally calculating out the times tables as well as how to set out written work using this system. This is why I bought the book.  It also teaches us what to say in out heads and what order to do the problems in and how to beat the calculater. It teaches how to calculate 8x7 98x135 and 16x14. It includes some practice sheets for each level of the technique at the end of my book.
Checking work- teaches how to cast out nines, I found this fascinating and a great technique to teach kids how to quickly check answers, not unique to this book though well explained.
Multiplication- part 2 teaches how to do the more difficult multiplication problems mentally and with paper. These are the ones with numbers further away from 10,100 or 1000 it uses factors which never made more sence to me smile
Shortcuts- as shown in previous posts. Talks about using the simplest method possible. Lots of tricks to play with. Probably not useful for brillkids but parents this one is for you  LOL
When to use direct multiplication is the next chapter. It explains that sometimes their is an easier way. And encourages kids to look for them.
Alphametics- using letters instead of numbers for some fun Wink Ummm isn't that algebra in disguise? It's learnt to teach the properties of numbers, good for kids who like to think.
Factors that determine intelligence! - well this one I wasn't expecting in a math book! Essentially intelligence is developed  big grin
Helping your child develop intelligence- contains some useful discussion topics you can be prepared for. This chapter gives strategies as well as a heap of puzzles to get the brain working. Probably too hard for a four year old but some could be adjusted and drawn with pictures.
Practice sheets and answers-says it all.

So Speed Math for Kids
It's part two in my book but is sold separately. This is the one you want to buy. It has ALL of the above plus
Multiplying decimals
Addition and subtraction, including giving kids ideas on the easiest way to do subtraction. Some speed strategies you may not have thaught of yourself ( although some will already use them smile )
Division and devision using factors.  I have only skimmed these chapters they require a brain to play around with it in order to give you a summary. My brain was sleeping  LOL Beyond early learning but good for my older kids.
Fractions- an easier way to add fractions with different denominators.  yep I remembered that word from high school  big grin 
The last bit of the book has a bunch of interesting stuff including Japanese and Russian tally marks, estimating and some more tricks ( for the record he doesnt like us using the word tricks Wink )
Buy it and if you find it sitting in your cupboard gathering dust ( because like me you find it hard to even start reading a math book!) take it on a plane trip with lots of pen and paper to practice...you will enjoy math! challenge the person sitting next to you with a calculator app  LOL


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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2012, 11:14:19 AM »

Mandabplus3, thank you SO MUCH for taking the time to post all that info! I really appreciate it! After reading through your summary, I think that it might still be too advanced for my daughter at the moment. However, it looks like it might be very useful for me to brush up on my own math skills and, hopefully, also learn a few new techniques along the way.

Thanks again and karma!  smile

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