Math - giving wrong answer phenomenon

[Aguh]

So far, so good. I'm getting sceptical about Doman Math. The failure rate is high.

e.g. http://www.childandme.com/doman-math-does-it-work/

Nevertheless, I still want to give my child the opportunity.

[Questers]

Though I was intimidated by the high failure rate and the non-verbalization part of it initially, I am now more inspired by Domanmom's blog (http://grhomeschooling.blogspot.com/search/label/Math). It is clear from her blog that she is reinforcing math in many other ways apart from just flashcards, and Hunter definitely seems to have a good understanding of the subject.

I feel it is not fair to generalize that Doman math does not work. If it does not work, then it should not work for anybody. But if a couple of people are having success with it, then I guess it is something do-able. There are several factors which could alter the success of any method...consistency of the program, child's interest (in dots particularly) etc. I do not think teaching Doman math can cause any harm. So I guess we can give our children the opportunity. ..And now that we have LM with the several icon options, it might help keep the child's interest levels up.

After all, if a child has a pleasant feeling toward math and if he is comfortable with numbers later in life, I think that is what matters the most. If Doman math helps them achieve this comfort level with mathematics, then I guess its worth a try.

Questers.

[smartenough]

I have recently seen an infographic with some tips for parents on how they can help their kids with studying. It is not easy still, but at least some hints that can make the life of teaching parents easier. Here it is: http://www.homework-desk.com/blog/parents_helping_kids_wtih_hw_/.

[TriciaGarcia]

I guess wrong answers in maths is one of the major problems that the children face during their school.

[andreasro]

Indeed, it does depend on different factors. I used LM with both boys at different ages and we've had Doman dots in different ways and programs. But I haven't been consistent nor used it beyond the first semester or so, I think.

As for understanding math, I would go for Montessori method and Mortensen Math. The second one is discussed here in the group, you shall see the last post from Sonya, who showed me how fun and easy actually we and the kids can learn and use math http://forum.brillkids.com/teaching-your-child-math/mortensen-math/msg107051/?topicseen#new, and there are parents really into this on the Facebook group designed for that.

As for giving wrong answers, Crewton Ramone from Crewtone Ramone's House of Math (Mortensen Math master trainer) talks a lot about guided discovery, getting the 'no' out of our lessons and instead using questions and positive ways of helping the child see and think. And it's really quite natural for repetition to occur till the child will see/understand things and will give the right answers. We should pursue understanding of concepts, not right answers from the start (and thus frustrating ourselves and the kid if she makes mistakes) when teaching, in my opinion, or at least this is how I understood things.

[andreasro]

By the way, in the download section for Little Reader, under Math, there are Mortensen Math files you can use, in a Doman style teaching, so to speak. They are made by Rachel NZ, and start with "Mortensen Math Blocks...". You can also find them easily in the recently added files in the right sidebar of the forum.

[Orsi26]

One thing that is very important to remember, that unlike many other parts of early learning, math is not a brain function.
In early learning we mostly use the functions of the brain and make sure the input is not random but planned - and so we enhance the speed and quality of learning.
In math we can't do only that. So it takes much more repetition and following the designed steps in a specific way. In my experience Doman math works well if you do it right. The level your kid gets to will greatly depend though on your own abilities in math. I personally feel Doman math works best in the early years when you can't use too many other things to teach amounts and basic addition etc. It has to be reviewed often though. From the age of anywhere after 12 months mixing in/changing to montessori is an effective way to go.
This allows kids a new way of using their knowledge. They also learn different parts of math not only arithmetic, such as how long is a meter, what is a cubic centimeter etc.
Doman's way of dealing with story math problems and teaching negative numbers is also amazingly effective, I taught parents to use it even with their school aged kids and it helped.
 I never used Mortensen, but it sounds like a great method too.
SEMAS math is also great for arithmetic if you have in your area - working with the abacus.

And as in any part of early learning: too many direct questions kill the fun for your kid and he/she will decide to kill the fun for you by being boring in their answers!

[Sophia Mason]

I have recently seen an infographic with some tips for parents on how they can help their kids with studying. It is not easy still, but at least some hints that can make the life of teaching parents easier.

[Angel Dsouza]

Congratulation for the successful working of the brill kids.

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