Surprising progress in math

[DadDude]

Hi, I am wanting to do more math with my daughter. Where can I learn more about these methods you are using?

Which one?  Well, most of the methods I use need little explanation.  Playing with buttons or other countable objects (we also use dice a lot, we have dozens of dice) and counting them and putting them in cups and moving them around from cup to cup...that's all there is to it.  Endless hours of fun.  The Singapore Math books, when your child can write well enough to use it, are self-explanatory (you don't need the teacher's guide for the kindergarten-level stuff).

I find that most of education is this way.  In terms of actually doing whatever, it's very simple, and I say that not to brag but because it's pretty simple for everyone, I guess.  The hard part for me is keeping up the motivation to keep trying new things, in order to hold my child's interest.

[DadDude]

Then I pointed to the numbers and had him count (initially he didn't really associate the numbers he said with all the written numbers). At first he could only count to 12 or so, so as he got to a number he didn't know I supplied it for him and he repeated all the way up to a hundred. You may find once you get out of the teens that your child can count much higher because the rest of the numbers are named so logically.

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I told him when he could do it all by himself we would go to the dollar tree and he could pick out a prize.  A few weeks down the road he had it no problem.

The incentive was probably a good idea.  I'm pretty sure my boy wouldn't have the patience to do what you suggest, but maybe we'll try it!

[Niniedney]

Thanks. I wasn't sure if you were using an actual method. Sounds like us, lots of games : )

[DadDude]

Thanks. I wasn't sure if you were using an actual method. Sounds like us, lots of games : )

It's a whole mix of stuff...games, workbooks, manipulatives...

[jaluitgirl]

"I'm thinking of trying Saxon math, which is the other one that's been recommended.  And then I'm also thinking about trying something more creative Doman-style but for an older child..."

Hi Daddude,

Our school district has been using Saxon Math for a while now and not seeing much progress with the students so we are switching over to Everyday Math which I'm not so sure about yet.  (I'm a second grade teacher).

Recently I ran across this accelerated math curriculum.  I've contacted the creator and he says his program is based on the ideas of Doman.  Anyhow, I haven't had a chance to review his stuff yet but it looks very interesting.  Here's the link:

 http://jonesgeniuses.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=58&vmcchk=1&Itemid=58

I found that Dr. Jones wrote back to me right away and was willing to answer all my questions and so I"m sure he'd answer yours.

If you do end up trying it let me know what you think.

[Tanikit]

It is interesting to see how well your son is doing and hear what you have used - sounds like he is doing very well.

My DD is 2 years 7 months now and she can count past 20. She is also coming up with numbers like 30 and 40 by herself in various contexts (Mummy will come and fetch me in 40 minutes) I used to show her the numbers of the houses we passed when walking - numbers greater than 10 I initially showed as 2 separate numbers (32 would be 3 and 2) but have recently started getting her to read the two numbers (eg 2 and 5 makes twenty five) and she is getting it. I would love a 100 chart though as have been meaning to start that with her for a while.

We count anything and everything - beads, buttons, sweets, knives and forks (which leads to basic maths - there are 3 people, we need 3 forks and 3 knives, how many altogether)

I started using "I can add upside down" - Dr Seuss with her and after a few pages (she cannot write - I write for her) she is starting to work out basic addition problems herself - she does use her fingers to count sometimes and do addition. I have introduced subtraction but she is not quite getting that yet except with the very smallest numbers.

I would like to start either Singapore Math with her or Math-U-See as she does seem to learn best with manipualtives. She will not be writing for a long time still so I need something she can do physically. She is even battling to circle things well on a form so I am staying away from worksheets for now. I am also looking into Horizons Math and Saxon Math - so many choices, but I won't start any of that til she older than 3.

[hypatia]

Which one?  Well, most of the methods I use need little explanation.  Playing with buttons or other countable objects (we also use dice a lot, we have dozens of dice) and counting them and putting them in cups and moving them around from cup to cup...that's all there is to it. 

This is where I'm not good... once we're over 10, I can't be bothered... do you count quickly, would your son be patient enough to listen/participate if you count over 20, 30... Today I presented her with little cards numbered from 0 to 10 and started showing her how to count and put the corresponding numbers of objects but she wasn't interested. She may be too young? (21m) Other than LM and counting here and there, I'm lost for ideas...

[TheyCan]

Instead of actually counting up to 30, you could say "Look - here are 3 sets of 10!  That makes 30!".  I'm just starting to do more of this now.  Just a suggestion!

[waterdreamer]

I can tell you how I taught my son to count to 100.  It took about a month.
First I went to worksheetworks.com and printed out a hundreds chart (http://www.worksheetworks.com/math/numbers/hundredchart.html) I chose base 10 and 100 percent filled in and then printed it out. 
Then I pointed to the numbers and had him count (initially he didn't really associate the numbers he said with all the written numbers). At first he could only count to 12 or so, so as he got to a number he didn't know I supplied it for him and he repeated all the way up to a hundred. You may find once you get out of the teens that your child can count much higher because the rest of the numbers are named so logically. We did this every day one time (took about 2 minutes), and then later once he could do it almost by himself we added a second time where he counted by rote without looking at the hundreds chart.
 I told him when he could do it all by himself we would go to the dollar tree and he could pick out a prize.  A few weeks down the road he had it no problem.

This is a great idea!!! I've been wanting to get my son to do higher rote counting. A friend of mine lent me a 100s chart book.(Which I have to get back to her *sorry kizudo*) I'll give it a shot tomorrow!!!

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