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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2012, 08:31:06 AM »

Finally as for the amount of time to spend practicing ... it's a really tough question to answer. The best answer I can give you is: generally more practice leads to better results.
........other kids can practice 6+ hours a day when she's 3 years old. I know 6 hours seems like it would drive you crazy, but think about how much time your child might spend playing sports or a video game. If he or she can enjoy the activity 6 hours will really fly by.
Hi Tom,

What is your estimate for the minimum about of daily practice required to develop anzan skills and can adults develop this ability? 
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ygjSioDQZOs&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/ygjSioDQZOs&rel=1</a>

Chris.


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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2012, 03:24:00 PM »

I have read from Cherlyn's blog that she studied abacus for just ONE year (May 2009 - May 2010) when she reached Dan Level-6, which is one of the highest level for CMA Mental Arithmetic (her soroban school). As far as I gathered, she usually studies on her own initiative but her parents helps her for two hours a day in her coursework.

Cherlyn was 4-years 11-months old when she first enrolled. In the video, she's 5-years and 11-months old. So I guess for this age-group, two hours a day of practice is more than a safe bet. smile But we have to consider that Cherlyn has a very strong initiative to learn. I believe that and her parent's dedication are what made her achieve this extraordinary feat. smile


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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2012, 08:03:55 PM »

I am so impressed by that little girl. I've never seen anything like that before. Thanks for sharing the video, Chris1.

Nadia0801, you mentioned that the girl's parents have a blog. Could you kindly paste the link? Thank you.

And Chris1 asked an important question: can adults do this too? Any answers?

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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2012, 09:50:09 PM »

Here's Cherlyn's blog link.

http://cherlynleezhiying.blogspot.com

As for adults learning anzan, I believe it is possible though it is much more difficult as we have to unlearn many things. A couple of teachers in my LO's school have achieved anzan without early learning. That is, of course, not without rigorous practice.  smile

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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2012, 10:41:07 PM »

Here's Cherlyn's blog link.
http://cherlynleezhiying.blogspot.com
As for adults learning anzan, I believe it is possible though it is much more difficult as we have to unlearn many things. A couple of teachers in my LO's school have achieved anzan without early learning. That is, of course, not without rigorous practice.  smile

Thank you so much, nadia0801.

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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2012, 09:18:55 AM »

Edit* Nee1 found an error I meant 1,000 hours of practice not 10,000. Friends don't let friends do math at 4 AM.

Hey Chris,

In my opinion, her level in the video is withen the reach of adults. I would estimate that it would take about 10,000 hours of practice to reach that level. It's a rough estimate I get from my own experiences. So, for an adult to reach her level in a year I would assume about the same amount of time is necessary. In a year, I would guess if a dedicated, motivated and well coached adult would need 3-4 hours of practice a day. (10,000 / 365 = 2.734 and I'm adding in an extra hour for the drop in neural plasticity)

But honestly, I've never done anything that intense for that long of a period. I feel like I'm guessing more than giving you an answer from my experience.

Please take it for what it is.

Nadia> I think you hit the nail on the head. She is probably one of the few kids who can keep their motivation up for such extended amounts of time. And her parents are very dedicated to her progress. I think if you want the best possible results from any student, those 2 are the more important factors in their education.

Tom

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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2012, 09:33:35 PM »

In my opinion, her level in the video is withen the reach of adults. I would estimate that it would take about 10,000 hours of practice to reach that level. It's a rough estimate I get from my own experiences. So, for an adult to reach her level in a year I would assume about the same amount of time is necessary. In a year, I would guess if a dedicated, motivated and well coached adult would need 3-4 hours of practice a day. (10,000 / 365 = 2.734 and I'm adding in an extra hour for the drop in neural plasticity)
Hi Tom,
Thank you for your reply.

10,000 hours /365 days = 27.40   27 hours and 24 minutes is a very long day!

At 2 hours and 42 minutes a day it would take 10 years to reach 10,000 hours of practice.

Chris


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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2012, 04:22:31 AM »

Hey Chris,

Nee beat you to it, check the edit at the top.

Tom

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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2012, 08:32:29 AM »

Hey Tom,

Perhaps I should be concentrating on my reading skills!

An hour a day is probably the upper limit for most young children, provided it is chunked into short manageable sessions. This would enable them to do 1000 hours in around 3 years.
 
This link generates practice sheets   http://www.uitti.net/stephen/soroban/soroban_sheets.pl
Completing these practice sheets is surprisingly relaxing.

Chris.


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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2012, 08:50:33 AM »

Wow! 1000 hours and that good! I can't even imagine how amazing you will be after 10000 hours.


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