Too late for Doman Math?

[iLusion]

Hi
I joined this site and was overwhelmed with the vast knowledge it offers. Just few days back I came across the 'Doman Math' method, started reading and assembling the cards. And today to my disappointment, read that this method is not recommended for 3+. My son is 3 1/2. kinda feeling that there is darkness at the end of the tunnel
If it's absolute 'no'..'no' for Doman Math. Are there any other possibilities that I could explore?

[THen]

From what I read, it is usually too late for Doman math, although there are exceptions. 

The part that is too late is the recognitions of randomly placed items.  However, from what I've read, you can group object into 5s and/or 10 and teach number recognition that way.  You can also teach the math concepts.  It may take them a little longer for it to become second nature, but they can still learn to do mental math.  And even though it may not be as quick or as effective as the children started learning at birth, it will be better than children who aren't introduced to math until kindergarten.   

Now, I know there are some in this forum that know a lot more about teaching math than I do.  I'll look forward to your posts. 

[purplefungi]

Domanmom started when her son was 30 months old. This is what she has to say about teaching math and the results with an "older" toddler:

http://worldsbesteducation.blogspot.com/2008/11/math-mystery.html


You could always start with Montessori math which I feel is a natural progression from the way the math is taught with the Doman method and what the next step of math might look like for children who are taught using Doman's method.
A good jumping ground would be: http://eiu.edu/~cfsjy/mts/math/_link.htm

[iLusion]

Thanks THen and Purplefungi
Though I taught him countings 1s,5s, 10s, 100s and 1000s. He also does simple counting in 3 languages. I never had a chance to go for anything visual like 'doman math' and after learning it at this point I was wondering what are other options. Your posts helped! I am gonna look into the link purplefungi gave in detail

Thanks!

[KUAngie]

Fungimom-

Thanks for the links to Montessori math.  I've been told it's even too late to teach my 15mo old Doman math.  I'll check out Domanmom's experience.  I'd like to not pull my hair out.  But it is a bit stressful coming in to this "late" in the game.  I just have to remind myself, my kids will still learn, whether I do this or not. : )

Edited to say that the linkto Domanmom's blog was great.  I'm now thinking about trying the math program again- but probably not with my 4yo.

Angie

[purplefungi]

I love that post from Elizabeth (domanmom)!

Here are some pictures from the web of Montessori math activities (sometimes it helps to have a visualization of what they are):

sandpaper numbers (children not only can put them in order, they can feel them. Tactile learners would do well with these.)




Spindle box (I have these. All you do is place the correct number of spindles in each division. I love that it includes a slot for "0.")


Montessori math is very hands-on. It's great because children who cannot write yet can still participate in math-related activities. It is also very visual. You can see in these pictures that the children can obtain a very good sense of what numbers mean.
(Number rods)



I was poking around the Internet and found some videos on how to teach the math lessons:

http://www.ehow.com/video_4403346_the-hundreds-board-montessori-material.html

Some Montessori things look rather fancy but can be made from items that are found at home or from printables off the Internet:

http://montessorimom.com/montessori-free-printouts-downloads/
http://www.montessoriforeveryone.com/Free-Downloads_ep_35-1.html
http://lapazfarm.homeschooljournal.net/some-montessori-activities/

[mmetlich]

I studied in a Montessori school and loved Math. however I was just trying to get enough points to get a doidcount for LM when I ran into this thread. My boy is about to turn 3. I have shown him the dot cards, but he does not pay much attention to them. when I "test" him he recognizes quantities from 1-10 almost always. I was hoping to get LM since he seemed to like it much more than the cards (I used the beta version). What do you suggest ....should I continue with this, or just hop in to Montessori? Anyone have experience on this?

[iLusion]

Thanks Purplefungi for such a detail post. It shows so much research and time you must have spent! montessory method is new too me and something interesting for people like me who are starting late like me

karma point to you 

[purplefungi]

I studied in a Montessori school and loved Math. however I was just trying to get enough points to get a doidcount for LM when I ran into this thread. My boy is about to turn 3. I have shown him the dot cards, but he does not pay much attention to them. when I "test" him he recognizes quantities from 1-10 almost always. I was hoping to get LM since he seemed to like it much more than the cards (I used the beta version). What do you suggest ....should I continue with this, or just hop in to Montessori? Anyone have experience on this?

My son is 2 years and 2 months and shows very little interest in the math cards and Little Math, but this is just my son. If yours likes the 1-10 numbers then LM might be the way to go for you. I would kill for my little man to be interested in math! It looks like I am in the same situation as you kind of.

I need to try using LM with the Thomas the Train icons and see how my son does. He may like LM better if it has something that he likes.

Thanks Purplefungi for such a detail post. It shows so much research and time you must have spent! montessory method is new too me and something interesting for people like me who are starting late like me

karma point to you 

Thanks! Anything for you guys!

[KL]

The "too late" concept applies to babies' ability to recognize number quantities at a glance (subitization).  Little Math is much more than just that.  LM introduces the whole world of numbers to your child so that he starts to understand the concept of quantity, then numerals, then simple arithmetic concepts all the way to long equations and mixed equations.

[ketty rain]

hi
my daughter is 2 years but not intersted in math!!!!! do i start with dot 1-100 how i do it just tell her this is the number ???????

[staceycanada]

We have the red dot cards and are doing them at 17 months. I hadn't read that 15 months was too late. Yikes am I wasting my time?

kettyrain I holdupthe dot card and say "5" just the number nothing else and move to the next one.

[THen]

Hi!  Here are a couple of threads that talk about a child losing the ability to instantly recognize quantities.  I thought they were helpful.

http://forum.brillkids.com/teaching-your-child-math/anyone-get-results-from-doman-math-method/45/

http://forum.brillkids.com/teaching-your-child-math/anyone-get-results-from-doman-math-method/45/

As for how to do the Doman method, I found the following to be helpful.

http://forum.brillkids.com/general-discussion-b5/gentle-revolution-and-glenn-doman's-method/

I think Little Math is great and a great help in making my prep. time shorter. 

[staceycanada]

excellent information thank you for sharing.

[ketty rain]

thanks for sharing.
LM omly in english and i need arabic
so i will try to understand the concept and try to make my own cards and ppt.but still not conviced about giving dots first and in the middle give addition  substraction on dots!!!!! and so......
i need to  know more

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