Too late for Doman Math?

[Dorer]

Thanks purplefungi for the Montessori links.

I'll have to "study" them carefully 

[tina]

Thanks all moms!

I have the same question too as my daughter is 28 month now!!  I have shown her red dots when she was younger but since I have returned to work, I did not have much time to show the flash card and we stopped the program! 

I am now playing the dot card with my 5-month old baby and she seems enjoying it.  Well, each time when I flashed the card, she will wave both her hands and legs and I assume she is excited!  Hopefully I can continue with this one.  But I worry that after I go to work (december), how can I keep this up.

I need to read all the links you all post!  Thanks a lot

[trinity papa]

Too late for doman maths doesn't mean too late for math per se ........

You can try daily activities like counting fingers, cars, birds etc on daily activity or routine ...... lik egoing to pre schools etc .... it gives them a feel of quantities .... this are for older than 2 or 3 toddlers ..... in fact you can start for 15mh child and she gets a rough idea .......

and during meal time if she likes cereals or crackers ..... just do simple counting addition and subtraction ...... they will gradually get a hang of it ..... you just need to use key words .... like "you have 2 crackers in the bowl, i add 3 more crackers and you have 5" "so 2 + 3 = 5 crackers ...... and then clap our hand and laugh together ..... everyday item is quantity and quantity is maths ..... just that they don't know the word add or plus, subtract or minus etc .... so you have to use it to introduce it to them, and then gradually progress to marbles or blocks etc ..... to increase the numbers .... its simple montessori style ..... ( i thought the method was well known ... afterall GD did copy its maths from montessori .....although it did not accredit it) You can see that montessori uses actual physical product for extra tactile effect ..... GD simply puts it on paper .... and he figures babies can be though quantities .... but lets face it all babies and most do know maths ..... just that they don't know the word for it and the word for +. So really we are teaching them language ...... i mean you may know maths in english but if you go japan you have no idea that they are speaking about equations in japanese right?? so they have to write the equation on a board assuming if its the same written .... if not then they have to use figurative means to show you what they mean by "san" means "3" .... so they just show you 3 dots ... and wow you got the meaning straight away but you didn't know it was "san"........ they vocal is to link the 3 dots to the word "san" and subsequently you link the sound "san"to the written word "san".......

[trinity papa]

Oops forgot ..... anyway just wanna say .... don't be too uptied about missing the window of opportunity .... be it LM or Montessori ..... idea is to do it often do it using the right key words ..... and expose .....

the only problem is .... say if you did very succesfuly using GD or shichida maths .... and they gained this instant maths calculation ..... you need to consistently keep it up, keep it interesting, keep it progressive and challanging .... if not they will lose interest and subsequently lose that ability ..... so there is alot of followup ..... and if our own maths are not ..... you know deep enough ..... we will have to dig deep to hire someone to impart such skills .....

its like playing the piano ..... you can teach the basics .... but without further practice and guidance ..... well you know the outcome .....

[Nida_A]

That's a very good reply trinity papa ... I agree, Math is like learning a new language, but it's just a very "different" style of language.  So kids can always pick up on it, the way they would pick up a new language if you immerse them enough ... they will start to see the "pattern" after some time and they will finally "get it".
But ofcourse it's easier to learn a language when you are younger;  however, you can still get the hang of it when you are a little older and even become fluent with practice.
I wish that I had started the math program with my son earlier too.  He is 2 years old now.  He is very interested in reading books, but when it comes to math, I can tell that it's something new for him, something that he is not familiar with ... like he is just trying to put it all together, trying to "figure it out" the pattern.  Like there is a pattern to reading (moving eyes left to right, phonetic sounds, word recognition) there is a pattern to math (quantities, symbols, addition, etc) which the kids have to become familiar with.  So my aim is that hopefully i can "immerse" him in maths enough to where he starts to see a pattern of it.  I don't know if this will work, but i want to be positive and have faith that he CAN learn the math language.   

[trinity papa]

Hi NidaZafar, that's the spirit ..... go slow and gentle at first and then let them get a hang of it, build their interest and curiosity ... once they show interest ... start to do more and then do equations ..... but its a continuous process ..... everyday items and occasions can be a learning experience .....

have fun ..... its a learning experience for all of us .....

[fatima786]

thanx for all your posts.

it makes me feel better about not understanding the method of maths and hence implementing it only 2 weeks ago.

one thing that i have learnt that consistency is the key.
nevermind the late start. just believe again and be consistent.

maths is a language and if taught correctly and consistently it can give success.

i dont want to test Sa'ad but one day i asked him
"how many bites do you have on your plate?"

he mumbled "five"

of course when i pestered him he didnt say it again but it is hope!

[Kappasweet]

We have the red dot cards and are doing them at 17 months. I hadn't read that 15 months was too late. Yikes am I wasting my time?

kettyrain I holdupthe dot card and say "5" just the number nothing else and move to the next one.

Is 15 months too late to do quantity dots cards?  My son is almost 15 months, I wanted to start a program for LM.  Should I just skip that and do counting or something else with LM?  I have been here a long time, I am very relaxed on our program and I want my child to start making progress.  He is making lots of progress in music, but in reading and math he hasn't made much progress and it's my fault for not keeping him on a consistent program.  If he wants to play with his toys, or get into the drawers, I just let him and don't worry about academics.  I realized yesterday he could sing part of the ABC song, he is very smart and I want to teach him.

[THen]

DomanMom started with her son when he was 30 months.  She talks about it in the following thread:
http://forum.brillkids.com/teaching-your-child-math/anyone-get-results-from-doman-math-method/msg3961/#msg3961

What I've read says 3 years old is usually the cut off for quantity recognition.  Some children lose it earlier and some later.  Some carry on until adulthood.  Someone once said, even if you don't do all 100, it is helpful even to do up to 10 or 20.  You can do a lot of math with 1-20.   

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