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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2010, 12:00:22 PM »

Not exactly sure if perfect pitch is something I want to give my child.

I've read an article that said people with perfect pitch tend to analyze music like a computer, and forget about the "heart" during music interpretation. Other articles say this is more so if you begin to train your children through single notes as opposed to chords.

The first article was VERY against perfect pitch training, and had it's research based on people with perfect pitch. The author himself had absolute pitch also. He did not like having this skill.

Relative pitch is, in my opinion, more useful.

All I'm saying is, don't just assume perfect pitch is a must. If you want your child to have perfect pitch, do some thorough research first!

Best of luck!

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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2010, 02:35:58 PM »

while i do agree that relative pitch is "helpful" perfect pitch is a great thing to have.  usually the people who don't have it are the ones who are against it! LOL
and i have it and i am very musical AND my analytical skills are fabulous!! laugh
i also know for a fact that the best musicians in the world including singers, conductors, pianist, violinist, etc) who have perfect pitch are NOT computers.  they just hear the notes on the page before they reproduce them... which is a nice skill to have.
i think perfect pitch is very handy for string players and singers... people who just don't press a key to produce a sound.
i say go for it!!  if your child has any musical ability it will come through int he interpretation whether they have perfect pitch or not.
food for thought...
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2010, 02:55:51 PM »

I agree, I think having either relative pitch or perfect pitch will open doors to letting the child play what they want when they hear it.  A lot of kids I know give up early if they aren't good at a task right at the start.  Being able to hear and know exactly what they're hearing will give them excitement to keep learning and practicing.

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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2010, 04:12:03 AM »

anyone found anything good for perfect pitch training?

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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2010, 11:22:37 AM »

anyone found anything good for perfect pitch training?

Let your girl listen to lots of music. And have a perfect pitch instrument like a glockenspiel

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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2010, 03:10:59 PM »

Hi Reei,

Tuning forks are the best way of teaching them perfect pitch, but are a little pricey. Something else which keeps its tune such as the glockenspiel is also good.

Have a look at the rightbrainkids website. It talks about perfect pitch

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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2010, 12:45:37 AM »

tuning forks are a bit expensive. i checked out the glockenspiel in the local music store yesterday, i tested 2 with metronome, one did not not have perfect pitch, another one which is double the price of the first one has perfect pitch but is too big for my home..

anyone taught perfect pitch with tuning forks and found them effective?

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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2010, 06:59:29 AM »

I have used the tuning forks and absolutely l love them! But if you can't afford them, then that's another story. They will last a lifetime, and your kids can use them even when they are older.

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2010, 07:04:08 AM »

hubby said tuning forks are expensive..yet.. he has money to buy PS3 , GT5..  i will buy the tuning forks..i dont care..

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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2010, 09:24:30 AM »

@sarah108

the tuning forks from right brain, the john walker, is it labeled, which fork is for which note?

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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2010, 08:29:46 PM »

tuning forks are a bit expensive. i checked out the glockenspiel in the local music store yesterday, i tested 2 with metronome, one did not not have perfect pitch, another one which is double the price of the first one has perfect pitch but is too big for my home..

anyone taught perfect pitch with tuning forks and found them effective?

you mean you tested with a electronic tuner, right? And yours incidentally comes with a metronome?  smile

How are you going to use the tuning forks to teach, by the way? I don't consciously teach pitching.  This just happens by the way, right? Doesn't perfect pitch develop from the womb? Or at least from birth?  Most will say your child would already be born with it.

Isn't it good enough if they have very good hearing which will lead to good intonation. 

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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2010, 08:19:38 AM »

The ability to decipher between pitches and reproduce pitches is both innate and learned. If we are born with excellent hearing then we have the potential to hear the whole range. But being able to hear the whole range and being able to differentiate between pitches let alone know exactly what frequency has just been played to you or being able to read music and reproduce the note vocally or tune a violin without an electronic tuner etc.

These abilities are learned and like the ability to hear the different sounds in individual languages they become more difficult over time so does training the ear to differentiate between different frequencies. The earlier these different frequencies are attached to the ledger notes they correspond with or the key they press on the piano etc the easier it is for perfect pitch to be achieved.

We can of course learn to pitch later in life but it is a lot of hard, repetitious work. Better to learn it while it's easy.

Tuning forks I think are better for teaching perfect pitch, but I love the sound of a glockenspiel (well a nice one) and it's a lot of fun for a child to be able to hit something and create such a beautiful full ringing tone.


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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2010, 08:23:10 AM »

Thanks TMS. I have ordered the tuning fork from Right Brain. Can't wait to get my hands on it to have fun.. . mellow

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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2010, 09:06:53 AM »

But being able to hear the whole range and being able to differentiate between pitches let alone know exactly what frequency has just been played to you or being able to read music and reproduce the note vocally or tune a violin without an electronic tuner etc.

Yes, my boys who play string instruments can tune their instruments without a tuner.  They certainly have good hearing and they can roughly tell if a note is accurate.  But they certainly do not have perfect pitch. That's why I don't see why it is important.

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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2010, 09:33:57 AM »

My daughter has perfect pitch.  No one else in our extended family has it.  The only thing we did to foster it was playing the Trebellina DVD for her as a baby.  She can now tell you what any note is if she only hears it.  This includes sharps and flats.  In addition, if you strike a key without her seeing it, she can run over and play the same key.  She can sometimes sing a note that you tell her to, but she is not as good at that yet.  Still practicing!

See, it really must be inborn then!  Bc even Trebellina's tones are not pitch-perfect!  Every time I heard that "person" sing the tone of the note, I'd *cringe*. Thankfully it is followed by the correctly-pitched key, but still ... why do they have a person sing a note not accurately in that DVD?!

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