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« on: August 12, 2013, 04:51:15 AM »

Hi, I am wondering is it good to let them know about grammar at this age?For example, do you teach is, are, was, were to them at 3.5years old? I am trying to speak to her in proper English.. however, I was thinking whether I should also tell her why did I use past tense or present tense in the sentence. Will I confuse her? For example, "Just now, we were at the petshop.. Now, we are at the supermarket" .... She always mixed the "were" with "are" in the "just now" and "now" sentence.

 If you are teaching them about grammar, how do you tell them so that they will not get confused?

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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013, 05:19:30 AM »

I have taught my son parts of speech such as nouns, verbs, prepositions, predicates and subjects. I have also taught him punctuation quotation, question marks, full stops etc.
I teach it informally though. Recently when we were out walking he said something about foots. And that led us to a discussion about irregular plurals.

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2013, 04:27:24 AM »

Do you tell him which words is "noun" or "adjectives" at this age?

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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 04:44:36 AM »

Grr. I just typed up a whole thing and I come back and the page is blank and those bottles are laughing manically at me. Does anyone else feel that way?



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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2013, 04:54:53 AM »

Take 2

I define things for James. He can often figure out what they are. Here are some of the things we have covered.

Parts of speech
Subject: who or what the sentence is about. Often, but not always a noun.
Predicate: it a what the subject does.
Object: it is who or what the subject does it to.
Noun: person, place, thing or idea. We have not covered pronouns yet. Naming words.
Verb: what is done. Doing words.
Adjective: qualities of a noun. Describing words.
Adjverbs: enhances verbs and adjectives. They describe intensity and measure. Often end in -ly.
Prepositions: we have only really covered the positional words.

Basic tenses.
Past: has already happened.
Present: is happening right now.
Future: it will happen.

He knows 1st, 2nd and 3rd person.

We seem to often focus on irregular things. The rule breakers because childred untuit language. As Doman wrote, they are linguistic geniuses. As mentioned above irregular plurals come up. Tooth-teeth etc.  irregular tenses. Like do-did.

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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2013, 11:44:07 AM »

We are using parts of speech. We started with them when she was 2,5y and she really liked it. We are about to review it. Thanks for the reminder  laugh

 http://www.amazon.com/Parts---Speech-Tales-Motivating-Super-Funny/dp/0545164583/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1376394129&sr=8-8&keywords=parts+of+speech

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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2013, 01:01:01 PM »

I printed this out and put it by our toilet.  My kids read it extensively until it got torn and we threw it away.  I admit that besides this and School House Rock videos, we haven't done anything to specifically address grammar.  But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't.  smile  The poem's author was unknown, it's old, and I don't feel like digging to figure out where I got it.  Sorry.  smile

Three little words you often see
Are ARTICLES - a, an, and the.

Every name is called a NOUN,
As field and fountain, street and town;

In place of noun the PRONOUN stands
As he and she can clap their hands;

The ADJECTIVE describes a thing,
As magic wand and bridal ring;

The VERB means action, something done -
To read, to write, to jump, to run;

How things are done, the ADVERBS tell,
As quickly, slowly, badly, well;

The PREPOSITION shows relation,
As in the street, or at the station;

CONJUNCTIONS join, in many ways,
Sentences, words, or phrase and phrase;

The INTERJECTION cries out, 'Hark!
I need an exclamation mark!'

Through Poetry, we learn how each
of these make up THE PARTS OF SPEECH.

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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 04:22:14 PM »

I can not write much now ( and promise I would write more on the topic later!  yes ) but wanted to mention "Simply Grammar - An Illustrated Primer" by Charlotte Mason.  (http://www.amazon.com/Simply-Grammar-An-Illustrated-Primer/dp/1889209015)


It is REALLY good and I highly recommend it for basic grammar with little children, EL kids can start on it pretty early and go on their own pace. It gives an excellent "spine" and you can add different practice activities throughout the day to re-enforce the short lessons.

Of course they say it is for 4th grade and up  smile  but it is a good fit for 3-4 yo EL child  yes  Enjoy!

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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 05:07:54 PM »

Oh, Tamsyn, you know I am loving that poem.  It is so cute.  These are all great ideas.  I have not used the Simply Grammar books, but I did start First Language Lessons with my 3-4 year olds.  They are completely scripted, so you don't have to come up with anything to say.  You just read it to your child and have them answer you.  We would take this further and play naming nouns, verbs, pronouns and so forth throughout the day.  I really like that book.  It was easy to use, very thorough and my kids loved it.  There is lots of chanting to help them remember definitions.  Even now my 9 year old quotes these back to me when he is asked the definition of a part of speech.


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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013, 06:27:55 PM »

Thanks, Krista.  smile  And thank you for the Grammar recommendation books everyone.
I am remembering now a game Sidney Ledson describes in his "Give your child genius IQ" book.  One player thinks of a nursery rhyme, and thinks of a couple of words to be substituted, and tells the other player, say, I need two nouns and one verb.  Let's say they come up with "Chicken, Fork, and spin."  Well, the poem was Jack and Jill, so the new version would be, Jack and Jill went up a chicken to spin a pail of forks."  Tee hee, everyone laughs, and players switch roles.

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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2013, 08:27:12 PM »

Oh, Tamsyn, that reminds me of Madlibs.  My kids LOVE these.  They are a really fun and funny way to learn grammar.  You can buy the Madlibs books, I am including a link so you can see them, or play them online.  Lots and lots of fun!!  So much so that your children will want to know the parts of speech so they can join the fun.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=madlibs

http://www.funbrain.com/brain/ReadingBrain/ReadingBrain.html

http://www.itsamadlibsworld.com/

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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2013, 04:41:39 AM »

Absolutely teach grammar as soon as possible! As well as literary terms and devices, and anything else you might find in a lit class. Honestly, I have found it far easier to teach Alex with examples from children's picture books than anything else even college-level lit books might use as examples. The next time you open a picture book, take notice of the huge range of everything from sentence structure, punctuation, and literary devices. I think Alex was not even two when we introduced parts of speech, punctuation, and things like onomantopeia, alliteration, hyperbole, personification, etc.... So many more vivid examples in children's books. I will list some of our favorite resources below, but I also made little 10-inch long cards of all the parts of speech and lit devices and put them up on a wall near where we do our bedtime reading so that she has them in view. As we do our night time reading she likes to point out examples for me:)

So, as Lelask recommended, we started with the Scholastic Parts of Speech Tales, Grammar Tales, and Punctuation Tales, which have a separate little book for each individual topic.

Very soon I stumbled upon a series of fabulous and fun to read books by Brian P. Cleary. I can't say enough great things about them as each book concentrates on say, a part of speech. (Or similes, metaphors, whatever). With titles such as 'To Root, To Toot, To Parachute: a book about Nouns' or 'Hairy, Scary, Ordinary: a Book about Adjectives' they are just too cute. Most libraries carry these, so have a look.
Here is a list of some from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_15?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=brian+p.+cleary&sprefix=Brian+P.+Cleary%2Caps%2C995&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3Abrian+p.+cleary

Oh! There is a great vintage book called Grammar Land by M.L.Nesbitt that she enjoyed tremendously, it is very silly and fun. Listening to it really helped her solidify the ideas as well. Here are the links to download the free PDF and the audio recording if you like:

http://archive.org/details/grammarlandorgr00nesbgoog

http://www.booksshouldbefree.com/book/Grammar-Land

We did some of First Language Lessons as well, but I honestly find much of it very, very redundant and Alex gets very frustrated and uncooperative it I try to make her rehash something she already gets. Exactly how many lessons does one need on nouns? LOL

I just bought her two levels of Michael Clay Thompson LA and I think this will be much more appropriate given all the EL she has already done in this area.

Tamsyn-
It's funny, that is one of the very first poems that I gave Alex for memory work after buying the Living Memory book by Andrew Campbell! We love it as well:)

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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2013, 04:42:21 PM »

Yes!
We teach literary devices also. Alliteration, onomatopoeia, and we do it as we read. I don't do any separate grammar lessons. I do intend to search Discovery Plus for a suitable video lesson.

Keri, I am glad we aren't the only ones that found FLL rather slow. I am going o check out some of those silly books for fun.

Tamsyn, I have that poem and I keep meaning to print it out.

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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2013, 03:59:24 AM »

I used a game called the very silly sentence game. Taught nouns, adjectives, verbs, articles and prepositions. It is made by DK and it gets the point across quickly and effectively.


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I used a game called the very silly sentence game. Taught nouns, adjectives, verbs, articles and prepositions. It is made by DK and it gets the point across quickly and effectively.


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