TweedleWink Languages or PIM

[princessclem]

I know nothing about twiddlewink but I have looked into little pim and muzzy. we rented muzzy from the LIBRARY and it was ok but the kids were SCARED of muzzy and would not watch the parts that he is in. and I am talking about 3+4 yrs. I really like what I have seen in previews of the little pim show and want to try that ASAP (when I can afford it) I have the brainybaby french and that is great my kids love that one. and yeah really cheap too. There is a show called bilingual baby but i think that is almost a direct copy of brainybaby. at least that is what I remember when I saw a few minutes of that one.

[NewWorld2011]

Muzzy is like a cartoon, so probably better for 2+...

I have Muzzys and Little Pim videos and I totally agree with Hypatia that Little Pim is better for babies while Muzzy is more for toddlers.

[tlyoung]

I used Muzzy French for my daughter from about 1 year on.  She loved it and is now fluent without an american accent.  I credit Muzzy along with my hubby and in laws for her learning French properly.  Yes, I agree Muzzy is for older children but that is all I had back them.  I will get Little Pim for our next child and will check out Bilingual baby.  Does anyone have a website for them?  I found the DVDs here 
http://www.babyclassroom.com/bilingual-baby.html

[DrPrimo]

I have to tell you that i was not crazy about Muzzy... yes, it is for an older child, but still... i think LM is leaps and bounds ahead of it.  I disliked it so much so i got my $$ back.  i think the thing i like most about bilingual baby and LP is the fact they use real people/children, which captures the attention more than a cartoon.  we have a cartoon language video in greek (because that is all that is out there in greek) and it does not hold my DD's attention nearly as much as the other videos i mentioned.
there is also something you should check out called Early Advantage... i've asked around on this forum but as of yet no one knows of it...
anyway, they claim to teach reading and advanced math very early.  i saw the video on you tube and inquired about it.  they returned this link and asked me to show it to my DD to get her reaction, then they would assess where she is and plan a program just for her... for a price.  YIKES!  $100/week for 50 weeks! (they had better clean my house for that much$$)
 the reason i mention this is b/c they show lips moving in the video... which tells me that if children can see real people speaking that help them pick, up ANY language... their mother tongue or their own.  something to consider, i think.
here are the links:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/qDPi1NZcx5k&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/qDPi1NZcx5k&rel=1</a>
  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/kQA2oN18oM4&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/kQA2oN18oM4&rel=1</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/osyRCoRyKNI&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/osyRCoRyKNI&rel=1</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/MtPOcxfX42o&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/MtPOcxfX42o&rel=1</a>

would love to hear people's thoughts...  sorry to go a bit off topic but thought you might be interested,
thanks!
the doc

[waterdreamer]

Wow that's expensive. After watching the first video they say it's 1-2 mins a day for $100 a week! That is insane!
I wonder what they do that is so special besides showing the child the persons lips moving?

[DrPrimo]

I'm trying to find out!  it's like pulling teeth to get any information.
when i do i'll let you know.
the doc

[waterdreamer]

I hate when people don't fully disclose what they are trying to sell you.

[2010BEBES]

Thanks waterdreamer, I look forward to your review!

In the meantime, I think Bilingual Baby is so cheap, ill but it anyway

sarah108,
I just read amazons review on 'Bilingual Baby' and 'Brainy Baby French' and they were not good. I was wandering if you got a chance of buying or seeing them?

[2010BEBES]

I have to tell you that i was not crazy about Muzzy... yes, it is for an older child, but still... i think LM is leaps and bounds ahead of it.  I disliked it so much so i got my $$ back.  i think the thing i like most about bilingual baby and LP is the fact they use real people/children, which captures the attention more than a cartoon.  we have a cartoon language video in greek (because that is all that is out there in greek) and it does not hold my DD's attention nearly as much as the other videos i mentioned.

would love to hear people's thoughts...  sorry to go a bit off topic but thought you might be interested,
thanks!
the doc

DrPrimo,
I am lost here. What is LM, is it Little Math? What does it has to do with Muzzy?

I think it all depends on the child. My grandson likes watching Muzzy and listening to the CD on the car. The other day he ask to see the numbers in italian. I agree it is not for babies but it is a very good program for 3 years and up. Maybe little Pim is better for smaller kids or even toddlers but  do you consider Bilingual Baby better than Muzzy?

[DrPrimo]

 Sorry... Typo!  I meant little pim!

[2010BEBES]

... Maybe little Pim is better for smaller kids or even toddlers but  do you consider Bilingual Baby better than Muzzy?

Now it is better.
What about Blingual baby, you think it is better than Muzzy?  NO WAY.    
Is it for your 16 month old baby or you hve older kids?

[DrPrimo]

For me, bilingual baby is better b/c they use real kids, not cartoons and you get quite a Bit of vocab in 30 min.  My point was...  for $5/ DVD it is a great intro to Introducing a young child to a language without spending a fortune.  I have used BB first, then moved on to little pim etc.  Muzzy... For me, I didn't care for the story, vocab, etc.  But my DD was only 9 mo. When I showed it to her And she hated it.  I'm hoping by the time she is 3 her language will be in a place where she doesn't need muzzy.
For the $$, you can't beat bilingual baby.  Especially at the beginning.  Plus they have languages that you just can't find anywhere else.
Just my opinion...
The doc

[2010BEBES]

For me, bilingual baby is better b/c they use real kids, not cartoons and you get quite a Bit of vocab in 30 min.  My point was...  for $5/ DVD it is a great intro to Introducing a young child to a language without spending a fortune.  ...
For the $$, you can't beat bilingual baby.  Especially at the beginning.  Plus they have languages that you just can't find anywhere else.
Just my opinion...
The doc

I certainly respect your opinion and think you are right considering your 9 month baby. No way Muzzy can be for that age.
You find a bargain for US$ 5.  
What languages did you show or are planiing to show him?

[DrPrimo]

I found them on the brainy baby website.  I bought Italian Greek German and Spanish. And she loves them!  Only doing Italian and Greek now.  Saving the German and Spanish for her 2nd birthday. I flash the words used in the videos to help reinforce the language.  Seems to be working.  Anyway, considering how much money all this stuff is, you can't go wrong for $5!
The doc

[AnnK]

Update - Thanks for all the feedback.  You guys were a big help.  I did borrow Little Pim from my local library and my 2 year old loves it.  She wants to see "bamboo" everytime...that's what she calls Little PIM.  I've started her on both the Spanish and French together but now, I'm not sure if I should just be doing both together.  Any thoughts?  I think the literature out there says, it's okay to expose them to more than one language at a time.  We've been looking at Little Pim for about a month now.  How soon did you guys start seeing your little ones actually speaking in different languages?  For instance, my daughter understands quite a bit since she attends a day care where Spanish is spoken and she knows how to count beyond 10 (in Spanish) and say some words.  But just wondering about the French...how soon should we be seeing results?  I know...each child is different but is it like: you expose them and one day, they'll just start talking it or do you see your kids talking in other languages regularly?  And I am doing reinforcement exercises like when we see a spoon, I use the Spanish or French word. 

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