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« on: October 17, 2009, 07:59:40 PM »

Dear Everyone,

I am setting up Quranic Arabic Sets in LR - and realized that adjustments had to be made to the traditional Doman method schedule.  For English, I show 5 sets of 5 cards for 5 days and discard a card/introduce a new card for each set, using the schedule that was adjusted by Joha. 

http://forum.brillkids.com/teaching-your-child-to-read/daily-schedule-for-reading/

For Quranic Arabic, it is best to start with the alphabet and then teach the sets of diacritics that are written above and below each letter representing short/long/soft/doubled/miniature long vowels, diphthongs, and other sounds. 

At the moment, I am setting up a schedule for the 30 letters x 3 short vowels.  Instead of the usual schedule, I decided to set up 5 sets of 3 cards for (aa, ee, oo sounds of each letter) for 5 days.

And I think this is the best way to discard/introduce a new set (based on 3x/day for 5 days):

Day 1 Set 1
Day 2 Set 1, Set 2
Day 3 Set 1, Set 2, Set 3
Day 4 Set 1, Set 2, Set 3, Set 4
Day 5 Set 1, Set 2, Set 3, Set 4, Set 5
Day 6 Set 2, Set 3, Set 4, Set 5, Set 6
Day 7 Set 3, Set 4, Set 5, Set 6, Set 7

etc. . . .

Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Thanks.
Ayesha Wink

P.S.  Once I complete the spreadsheet schedule, I will upload it for those interested in teaching the al-Qai'dah an-Nooraneeyah/Noorani or al-Qai'dah Baghdadeeyah or Yassarnal Qu'ran methods with the Doman Method/schedule via Little Reader software.

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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2009, 09:22:54 AM »

that would be absolutly fantastic, i was thinking of doing something along those lines but am extremely busy.
so a huge thumbs up to you big grin

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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2009, 02:36:05 PM »

Dear Sophisty,

Have you taught the Arabic alphabet to your child yet?  And are you teaching Qur'anic Arabic (classical) or Fus-hah (Modern Standard Arabic) or 'Ameeyah (colloquial dialects)?  The alphabet is basically the same, with a few differences for Qur'anic Arabic.

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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2009, 07:46:26 PM »

Hiya,
i'm attempting to teach Nawaal the Quranic alphabet. i've got an arabic alphabet word puzzle that she's been playing with, although i'm pretty sure she's just 'playing' rather than actually recognising any of the words... but i'm just trying to make her familiar with them. unfortunatley i'm not fully fluent in arabic, however i can read the Quran and as such my main priority is to enable her to begin to learn and read the quran as soon as possible for her of course. i've attempted to look for a decent program on youtube, however, as yet no luck.

all the best.

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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2009, 08:21:26 PM »

Dear Sophisty,

ASA.  Are you familiar with al-Qai'da an-Nooraneeyah?  It is the best system to teach Qur'anic Arabic:

http://islamicbookstore.com/b9420.html

Sheikh Muhammad Y. ar-Ra'ee authorized me to convert Lesson 1 - The Arabic Alphabet into a Little Reader format with accompanying soundclips.  Shuki is working on reducing the file size so we can add it to the downloads section.  Do you have Little Reader software? 

I have set up my schedule based on the Doman method/schedule mentioned in How to Teach Your Baby to Read, 40th Anniversary Edition.  

And there are some Arabic resources below that may also be useful for you:

Arabic Forum
http://forum.brillkids.com/aal%27rby/

Free Arabic .ppt Downloads
http://forum.brillkids.com/index.php?action=downloads;cat=135

Free Printed Arabic Flashcards
http://forum.brillkids.com/index.php?action=downloads;cat=176

Free Activity Sheets in Foreign Languages
http://forum.brillkids.com/downloads/?cat=224

Free Children's e-Books
http://forum.brillkids.com/downloads/?cat=225

And may I ask what country you are in?  We are in the Northeast, USA.

ASA
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2009, 02:52:55 PM »

Dear Sophisty,

ASA - please try the attached .pps for Noorani Lesson 1 with the soundclips and let me know that it works.

Thanks.
ASA
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2009, 03:09:57 PM »

Dear Ayesha

 i am serious now about teaching tina arabic , she already understands a lot and speak a little but i was taking it slowly because she just started reading in english and is enjoying it , and knows a lot of french , so i didn't want to do a lot .
i am just not convinced flash cards is the way to go , yes they can be helpful to teach vocabulary and meaning of things , but would they learn to read by just memorising words ?? i doubt . so like you i would start with the alphabet . i actually like the montessori aproach and it worked well for us in english which is pur phonic .
i printed out all the arabic alphabets on very fine sandpaper letters and glued them on carboard A5 size , tina can run her finger over the letters and feel them , than she can try to trace them in sand or cornmeal put in baking tray .
together with the alphabet will be useful to have set of picture cards few for each letter , and we can play a sort of i spy game : i spy something that starts with b  , could be bab , battah , bayt ( sorry have no arabic keyboard but I am getting one ) . this is an easy way for the kids to learn the alphabet and also lots of words in arabic begining with the letter or ending or in the middle .
once this is done we can move to what montessori calls moveable alphabet , similar to your fridge magnets , we can choose easy words similar to dad dude list but in arabic , and the kids would learn that by putting letters together they can make words . so maybe we can work on creating such list of simple phonetic arabic words . i am thinking to google montessori arabic and see if other parents have created such list .

i showed tina lots of words in flashcards, ybcr , lr , but only when she saw lists of phonetic words like dad dude lists that she got the idea and started reading .

what do you think ??
oh by the way , i did something i feel a bit crazy ,  i enrolled tina three times a week , for one hour every time in an arabic school , her class is just what they call : hadanah , they teach one letter a week , they sing , and read a story .
so far i am punished because tina won't stay in class without me , i thought she will get used to it , but she is not , she wants to go but mummy should stay . i won't accept the classical aproach of letting her cry and she will accept it , she doesn't have to , i told them clearly if they mind my presence i will take her out , if she doesn't want to stay alone it means she is not ready yet , but still i like her to be around people speaking arabic , so if they don't mind i would stay and i can even help the teacher ,  i can speak read and write arabic , hmmm, i also want to make sure nothing is forced on tina that she is not ready for , you see the traditional way of teaching is so much different that how i am teaching tina and this forum parents approach .

i think why i bother , why don't we stay home and just spend these three hours a week playing reading and singing in arabic . well alone at home we don't do it , and i really thought she will pick it up better if she is surrounded with kids and grown up talking in arabic and has no other choice .

i tried to make similar playgroup at home for free where i get few of tina's friends to play and i teach them at the same time , we tried we yoga , we tried with french , but my house is so attractive with lots of interesting things to do that kids do not really want to learn when they come to us so we end up painting playing playdough , swimming , jumping on the trampoline , dressing up .and because most kids even if arabic is their first language can speak english or french , they immediately switch to english when they know tina speaks english . can you blame them . even her grandmother would struggle to speak english , and ignore me begging her to speak arabic
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 07:37:35 PM »

hi Ayesha,
sorry for the very late reply, i've been extremely busy unfortunatly  Sad . (just started a new teaching job- after a blissfull, wonderful, exhilerating year out) um yes i do have the Little Reader, i've been using it with Nawaal for about three weeks now, prior to that she was watching the YBCR dvds about once a day since she was three months old. However as yet she has not attempted to 'read' in any way...i understand she is still quite small, but when you see videos of nine month old babies read, its astonishing.

i really want to work hard with Nawaal, she is my first baby, and its all the more important for her to exceed because she was born 10 weeks early at an astonishing 995g. the doctors were very unsure if she would even make it. But Alhamdullilah, she's thriving and healthy like any other 10 month old child.

i downloaded the Noorani file, however there doesn't seem to be any sound. i wonder if any one else is having the same problems.

oh, just a quick question when did you baby start to read, i know every child is different but i do hope Nawaal starts reading soon. oh, and Well done to Tina, she sound like she is doing very well, how old is she?

all the best
Munira

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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2009, 08:07:07 PM »

WS,
Ayesha, i'm in London

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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2009, 09:17:07 PM »

Dear Bella & Munira,

ASA. 

Bella - great ideas and progress with Tina!  Glad to hear things are well with you these days.  The Doman (whole word) method works great for English - but not for Arabic.  It is best to learn the letters and tashkeel and then words. 

Munira - Congratulations on your new job.  I hope you enjoy it.  And it sounds like Nawwal is progressing along well, masha'Allah. 

BrillKids has a done a fantastic job with Little Reader and the preset curriculuum.  I have the LR file for Noorani Lesson 1 - if you PM me with your email, I will send it to you.  And  you have the schedule to see how I set up my daily sets that I show at least twice a day.  I also uploaded the .pps to the forums and I hope the sound works for everyone.  If not, please let me know!

http://forum.brillkids.com/free-downloads-flash-cards-slideshows-and-infant-stimulation-cards-%28foreign%29/noorani-lsn-1-for-brillkids-pps/msg42070/?topicseen#new

My girls names are Sarah & Salma and they began YBCR program last December.  I used it while I was learning about the Doman methods, LR, creating the reading schedule, along with creating .ppt of Qur'anic words from the Uthmani Script Madinah mushaaf.  They finished the program during the summer, at the same time I became certified to teach Noorani.  It was then that I realized teaching Noorani was most logical method to teach Arabic instead of whole words because of the diacritical markings.  I have a lot of Qur'anic words ready for once they complete the Noorani booklet.

I think the girls began reading English about 4 - 5 months ago - they understand the words, and they are improving with their articulation.  My husband speaks Arabic to them and I speak English.  After YBCR (which they still will watch 1 video a day) and play with the cards; I then began with 200 words for Doman Step 1 (words) via LR.  We are on Day 25 of 44 and then we begin couplets. It is mostly review with some new words.  And developmentally, children begin speaking with 2 words about 2 years so we are on track with matching their reading with the speaking development:

http://www.childdevelopmentinfo.com/development/language_development.shtml

And what part of London are you in?  Do you know http://www.imambukhari.com/the-shaykh.html

Please let me know about your email address and if the .pps download link above has audible soundclips.

Thanks. 
ASA
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2009, 12:13:21 AM »

Dear Munira,

I figured out the reason why the sounds are not working in the Noorani Lesson 1 .pps. 

It has to do with the file size and changing the sound file from linked to embedded.  I also used mp3 files instead of wav files.   rolleyes  I am using PPT 2007 on Vista; more information here:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint/ha010348231033.aspx

I will correct it tomorrow and upload again.

Thanks for letting me know.

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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2009, 07:25:47 PM »

Dear Munira,

ASA

Here is a modified version of the Noorani Lesson 1 with embedded mp3 sound clips.  I have updated the Free Download also:

http://forum.brillkids.com/free-downloads-flash-cards-slideshows-and-infant-stimulation-cards-(foreign)/noorani-lsn-1-for-brillkids-pps/msg42070/?topicseen#new

Please let me know that it works.

ASA
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2010, 02:10:03 PM »

Hi all, assalamu alaikum

I'm thinking of purchasing Little Reader and reading about the Arabic is helping. I have tons of flash cards downloaded on my computer already (Arabic and English) but I don't feel comfortable doing the Arabic myself as I'm not a native speaker. So, are you saying if I purchase Little Reader, I can do Arabic flashcards as well, with native voices??



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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2010, 03:23:41 PM »

Dear TeacherMom,

WAS. 

There are several downloads for Arabic, and some have voice clips and some do not:

http://forum.brillkids.com/downloads/?cat=94

What I am creating is for specifically for Qur'anic/Classical Arabic which requires very precise pronunciation.  And Modern Standard Arabic is based upon Qur'anic/Classical Arabic, although it needs less precision for pronunciation.  And also remember that various regions will have different dialects/pronunciations.

What is your goal for teaching your child Arabic?  To read, write, speak, comprehend? 

Please let us know how we can help you.

~ Ayesha




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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2010, 06:56:51 PM »

Salaam Ayesha,

Someone else may have already pointed this out, but I was just looking through the noorani lesson 1 powerpoint file and it seems ط ظ are missing. 

How are you and the girls getting on with the other lessons?  I am just working on a LR file with the harakaat on the alphabet (fathah, dhammah, kasra - will upload when it is finished iA) as I am worried the letter forms might be too confusing? Have your girls picked up the letter forms easily?

JAK

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