Early Reader, Later In Life.

[christinc21]

I have just been turned on to the Early Reader program. I would love my son, whom will be 3 in less than a week, to be reading by the time he enters Pre-K. I think he would benefit from it but I am afraid if he learns too much he will be bored in school when the other children are just learning these things.

Does anyone here have an older child in school that was an early reader? I am curious to know how well they are doing in school since they already know most of what is being taught. I don't want my son to be "to ahead" of the other kids and he get bored and not pay attention. I have heard of kids having this problem and they not be advanced like they should and end up getting bad grades because they just don't pay attention due to boredom.

Please let me know if your older child was an early reader and how they are doing.

[Tanikit]

You do need sympathetic teachers if your child can read early. I was quite lucky that way - I started reading before I went to school and when I got to grade 2 the teacher I had selected books from the library for me to read (most were books that children in grade 6 were reading) which I then read at home instead of reading the class reader for homework or when I had spare time. I still had to read the class reader during class time though.

A lot of parents also homeschool and there is a homeschool board if you ever start thinking about doing that. Personally I don't think you should prevent your child from learning when they do it easiest just so they won't be bored at school.

[nhockaday]

http://www.brillbaby.com/teaching/reading/whyteachearly.php
http://forum.brillkids.com/general-discussion-b5/why-teach-reading-early-t1983/
http://forum.brillkids.com/general-discussion-b5/kids-taught-doman-in-the-80%27s-where-are-they-now/

Check out these links.

[christinc21]

I don't plan on preventing my son to read until school. I just don't know if I should push him into learning so much so early is all.

[DadDude]

I don't mean to discourage you, but I am very sure I'd have the same worry you're having if we weren't going to homeschool.  But since we are going to homeschool, this is not a problem for us.  Your question deserves to be taken very seriously.  What really can be done to prevent social and motivational problems at school later on, if you teach so much early on?

Anybody know of schools for older kids, who were educated early on using the Doman method?

[Ayesha Nicole]

Dear Christinc21, DadDude, and All,

Are you familiar with Dr. Neil Harvey's book, Kids Who Start Ahead, Stay Ahead?

More information below:

Kids Who Start Ahead, Stay Ahead
Dr. Neil Harvey
126 Pages • Softcover Regular Price: $9.95
IAHP online special: $5.95 Product code: 2055

Dr. Neil Harvey examines the unique experiences of more than three hundred preschool home-learners who went on to enter mainstream educational institutions. Did preschool home-learning really have any effect on the children's classroom performance, social life, or behavior? What Dr. Harvey found opens the door to the Gentle Revolution in successful education.

For over fifty years, The Institutes for the Achievement of Human Potential have been teaching parents to teach their babies to read, do math, acquire encyclopedic knowledge, and be physically superb. Over ten million American parents have successfully used The Institutes teaching methods with their children. Its use has spread to more than twenty-five countries, including Japan, England, Australia, France, Italy, and Brazil. But the burning question has been “What happens to these children when they get to school?” After many of these young children grew up or entered school, Dr. Harvey asked parents of these early learners how the children fared academically, physically, and socially.

Dr. Harvey's remarkable book may provide the spark to ignite a revolution in educational thinking. It lights the way to a more effective method of educating our children. With our own educational system ranking near the bottom among industrialized nations, it is time we understand that children who start ahead, stay ahead.

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I have this book and am convinced that it is a benefit to have an early educated child/ren - and almost robbing a child of so much when parents choose not to start early.  The educational statistics here in America are absolutely appalling as compared to the rest of the world.  Here is an article dedicated to it:

Why Johnny Can't Read, But Yoshio Can. (Japanese education)
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-6745944.html

I will try to access the full article and post it later.

Perhaps DadDude will kindly write about the book, Why Johnny Can't Read by Rudolph Fletcher, because I have not read that one - yet.

Sincerely,
Ayesha

[Ayesha Nicole]

Dear All,

More information from Dr. Robert Titzer:

     
Frequently Asked Questions
Knowledge Base > Miscellaneous >


Is early reading placing undo pressure on the parents and babies? Shouldn’t babies just play?

Answer: The natural state of a baby is to be curious and to enjoy learning. Babies and toddlers have tens of thousands of new brain connections forming every second which means they are not making any intentional effort to learn. They learn naturally if they see words at the same time they hear them. Babies and toddlers generally love reading and books. They enjoy the quality time that they receive from their parents. Research shows that the earlier a child is taught to read the more likely the child will actually enjoy reading later in life.

Babies and toddlers have fun playing with words just like they love other types of play. When babies and toddlers learn written language it is in a fun interactive way with a parent instead of in a classroom setting with one teacher and 20 or more children.

http://www.yourbabycanread.com/ce-faqm-faq/miscellaneous/is_early_reading_undo_pressure.aspx


And more for your reading enjoyment:

http://www.yourbabycan.com/titzer-story.php

http://www.infantlearning.com/robert.html

http://www.infantlearning.com/benefits.html

http://infantlearning.com/research.html

http://www.yourbabycan.com/product-research.php

http://www.yourbabycan.com/testimonials-professionals.php

Sincerely,
Ayesha

[Ayesha Nicole]

Dear All,

I also remembered articles and books by a nationally award winning teacher, John Taylor Gatto, who wrote many books, one book entitled, The Underground History of American Education, which you can read online for free:

http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/index.htm
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/aboutus/john.htm
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/bookstore/

After reading several of his books, is one reason that I will NOT wait for the "school system" to educate my children - because it is not an "education" that they receive - they are literally "dumbed down" - and it is a systematic process!  Take it from one of the nation's leading teachers - he should know, he lived it and taught it and has rebelled against it.  And so have I.

Sincerely,
Ayesha

[KL]

This is "Myth no. 8" in our Top 8 Myths of Early Reading article:

http://www.brillbaby.com/teach-baby/top-myths-early-reading/Myth-8-Your-child-will-be-too-far-ahead-of-his-peers.php

Please check it out!

[DadDude]

I think you may be misunderstanding Christin's concern.  There's no question that using the Doman method (and similar methods  ) will put a child ahead of his peers by age 6 or so.  But if a child who is used to learning exuberantly is suddenly placed in classrooms where he is not properly taught at his knowledge level, where his peers are way behind him, where he might think he's a freak, where he's bored and starts to associate learning with boredom...  Well, that's a potential problem, isn't it?  No matter how far advanced a kid is, if his spirit is killed by a school setting, he might lose his advantage.  Doesn't this make sense?

[nhockaday]

I guess no one read this link http://forum.brillkids.com/general-discussion-b5/kids-taught-doman-in-the-80%27s-where-are-they-now/
and what I wrote in that thread about Dr. Titzer's daughters:
Dr Titzer's daughter, Aleka, graduated at 16, and is now a junior in college. She is majoring in philosophy. She took AP classes in high school and earned 45 credits for college. Keelin is already in high school at the age of 13. Both are doing very well, both academically, and socially. They love to read and can do so at lighting fast speeds.

He said himself that both of his daughters were always very well adjusted, very happy, and did very well overall. But besides that, there are other responses on that thread that answer the original question.

[JudyMendes]

I have read thru all of the books by Glen Doman, and I guess in most or every book of his, he has mentioned of what has happened about those childeren who were put on his program in the early 70's. He has mentioned of what are they are now and how successful they are.
If you read his books the first few chapters talk about benefits of early reading and also about these children.

And also since we are talking about early teaching, this is what i know, as i have put my child on this program since birth. You can check my post at this link
http://forum.brillkids.com/introduce-yourself/hello-everyone-from-judy-mendes/msg19404/?topicseen

that young children can pick up and learn anything easily without any doubt unlike adults, Glen has also explained this why in his book too.
If you can train an animal when small, then why not children especially when they brains are like sponges. Any child that stays ahead always remains ahead in everything he wishes to pursue.
If you know an average human uses only 2-3% of his brain, imagine what happens to balance 98%, if try to tap to the uncovere the balance percentage of our brain, imagine how much we can achieve thru our brain power.

Recently on news this month, i also heard music can make smarter babies, i dont remember on which news channel i saw, if i recollect, I'll send you'll the link. And also when a research was conducted on Alzheimer's disease patients, they found that these patients when played a song they could hum the tune of it and could tell when the song was played off beat.

[christinc21]

Thank you all, for all of your advice.

[Ayesha Nicole]

Dear All,

Below is a link to the full article, Why Johnny Can't Read, But Odisho Can:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n21_v40/ai_6745944

Even though the article was written over a decade ago, it is still very intriguing information.  I am absolutely astonished and embarrassed with our American ignorance, while claiming to be the "best".  The very sad and obvious fact is that Americans know nothing - and should learn from those who do.

It has strengthened my personal conviction that early education programs are almost a requirement for parents who want their child to succeed in the increasingly competitive world - because being average by American standards is certainly too low by comparison to the rest of the world.

Respectfully,
Ayesha

[Frukc]

My brother learned to read with flashcards, age 4. Now he is 43.
I learned with ordinary method at 5.

We both are rather talented in literature, music and nature sciences. He was more bright. He wrote poems and stories which were published. His music teachers were surprised that he can read notes all the line together, not single notes.
He did not finish the university (I did), now he works ordinary job as computer repairer.

We had rather unhappy childhood. Our parents did something like "un-attachment parenting", my mother was too sick to take care properly etc.

It would be a long story on how wrong our childhood was. I am sure that psychological aspects are 10000 times more important than encyclopedic knowledge. With my doughter, the safe attachment is the priority, and teaching is just an entertainment.

Very often, happy and self-confident people are more successful than clever people. You know, clever people make suicide sometimes.

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