Knows about 100 sight words, when to expect sounding out words? Early phonics?

[DrPrimo]

i got the leapfrog phonics after reading a post on this forum.  and man, does it work!!  i bought all 3, the letter factory, the talking words factory and the complex words complex (or the word caper or something).  within 2 weeks of watching the letter factory she knew the sounds of about 10 letters when you showed them to her and with the rest of the videos she now knows how to sound out words... she doesn't quite get that you have to say them fast, but she knows the sounds of the entire alphabet including long and short vowels.  she is 16 months!
yes, i have been working with her to reinforce everything but to me it was all leapfrog. 
i have also been using the dr. jones reading and math since they teach reading from the beginning and not just sight words.  i have to say the combo is great, because the leapfrog phonics have a great easy way to teach the rules of reading (at least the basics) that is very easy to understand.  i will say dr. jones is VERY left brain, but with all the right brain stuff i do i'm not going to worry about it.  this has really made a difference in her interest as well.
just my 2¢.  hope that helps everyone!
take care,
the doc

[TeachingMyToddlers]

THANK YOU for sharing that! We have them, but have only watched them a couple of times. I thought the animation and storyline would be over her head. I skip to the part on the letter factory where the letters start making sounds. I'm have to add it to our regular rotation. She has upper and lower case letters down pat and seems to know some of the sounds, but not quite how to sounds words out yet.

Glad to hear you had success with it, we will give it a shot!

[tlyoung]

Glad to know you made the cross over the phonics.  I think this is a big step for total reading sucess.  Thank for letting us know sbout the Leap Frog program. Congrats Tracy

[DrPrimo]

yes... do skip over the beginning story bit and go right to the meat of the video.  they are long, and i let her roam around the the den and play with toys, the dog, etc. while its on... and she still got it!  look up dr. jones, too!
good luck!
the doc

[fma001]

My daughter started watching YBCR at 9 or 10 months and was reading phonetically at 21 months. She is proof that kids can figure out phonics for themselves. 

However, my 2.5 year old watched for more than a year and sight reads a little and can't do phonics at all. So, YBCR does not work for all kids. She has lost interest in the DVDs, so I have been doing the Little Reader trial. Hopefully, this will work for her.

My older daughter is now 5 and is a really really fast reader. I think early reading may produce significantly faster readers based on what I see with my older child. I really hope that my younger daughter will learn early enough to have the same benefit.

[DadDude]

So what's this "Dr. Jones" stuff?  Got a link where I can check it out?

[DrPrimo]

yes dad dude!  it is below:
http://www.jonesgeniuses.com/
the great thing is that you can talk to dr. jones directly.  he is a nice guy and respects what we are all doing on this forum.  he is a bit religious, but don't let that scare you off.  if you need help with anything he is always available for guidance... and i really like that.  i am having a great time and much success with his program.
good luck!
the doc

[TeachingMyToddlers]

DrPrimo- I read your reccomendation of the Jones Geniuses early reading and math and I think I am going to get it for my daughter soon (primarily for the math really). Do you find that you need to purchase manipulatives to go along with it? It looks like the package is only books.

Jones Geniuses is on facebook, there is an article posted there on the progress of the inner city kids and it was was very impressive. It's really pricey though, I assume you feel it is worth it? I have to remind myself it's for both reading and math which justifies the price a little I guess, instead of covering just one subject.

An update- we're working on phonics with the leapfrog word factory DVD, some flashcards, phonics songs, and we're bridged over to couplets and short sentences. I don;t think she's reading phonetically yet, but her reading vocabulary is improving so quickly sometimes it's hard to tell, maybe she is? She speaks in 2 to 3 word sentences and I think has a great vocabulary, but of course it is still somewhat limited at 20 months. Yesterday I printed off the LR Musical Instruments "Twinkle twinkle Little Star" file (one of her favorites) and surprisingly she could read just about all the instruments, I guess she's seen it enough online, or is she using some phonics to help her decode words like "timpani" that might be familiar but she doesn't know by sight immediately....I don't know.  She knows all of her letter sounds, but I haven't heard her verbally sound anything out, but she could be figuring it out in her head of course. But she's going great regardless, we're plugging away! I think she is up to around 150-200 words now. Maybe I will pull out some new words tomorrow.

[DrPrimo]

that just sounds great!! before you purchase, i would call/email him and he can talk to you specifically about your child, what they need etc.  for the price, i felt it was worth it as all manipulatives and parent guides with very detailed instructions and DVDs are included.  i really thought it was a good deal.  tell him you hear about it through me (leanna) and he might give you a discount (no guarantees!! )
anyway, i'm really pleased and i think with where your child is now they will make the leap to reading with this program.
good luck and let me know how it goes!
the doc

[Martusia]

LilyAndOwensMom,

With my baby Eaton I was using Montessori House DVD's  http://www.mymontessorihouse.com/DVD.html

here is a youtube sample
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/MiNZiHXwWEE&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/MiNZiHXwWEE&rel=1</a>

I own "Sounds words", "Make Big words" and " Big vocabulary". I was showing them to Eaton since he was 12 months old. Highly recommended for simple version of dvd's. No background distraction.
My baby is reading phoneticly now at 19 months

By the way this is great post!

[TeachingMyToddlers]

I called Dr. Jones today, he picked up but it was his day off...oops! I don't know if it was an home number, office number, or if he was just in the office doing other work on his day off. He's going to call me back on Monday but after looking at the news clips on his website I am pretty much sold on his program anyway.

I really want to get my hands on the Montessori House DVD's, those look great! Thanks for the recommendation!

[waterdreamer]

I also plan on using Dr Jones products. I talked to a sales guy from there name Chris, I think the calls are transfered to their cells because he to answered on his day of a few weeks ago. But I want to finish math u see primer first because he is learning from it still, I spent good money on it and I want to teach him you finish what you start. I mean we are in lesson 19 and their are 6 pages per lesson, we do 2 to 3 in average a day, so I doubt it will take us long to get to chapter 30.
Doc: how does you little one like this program does she look forward to math time?

[TeachingMyToddlers]

I would love to get a side by side comparison going of math u see and JG. This thread is derailing, I would start a new one in the math forum but I don't want to lose all this participation.


http://www.and-designs.com/~jonesgen/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=65

From the Math U See website, I see the primer level is the intro but it doesn 't say what grades it is for? Those little manipulatives do look like choke hazzards though. My dd is 20 months, but I am more worried about her dropping them on the floor for my 7 month old to find. To get everything offered for the primer level would be $135, but DD is too young for work books anyway.


Versus:

I look at the JG website and only see books and a dvd or CD rom in the kit, no manipulatives? That is why I figured I would have to buy some separately.

Early Learning Accelerated Homeschool Curriculum Kit
 ( Jones Geniuses Accelerated Education )    Early Learning Accelerated Homeschool Curriculum Kit
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$162.38 (including 8.25 % tax)

The Jones Geniuses Early Learning Accelerated Homeschool Curriculum Kit is for children 2-6 years old. It starts at the very beginning teaching recognition and writing of number and letter signs, phonics and the foundational mathematical skills of counting, addition and subtraction. By the end of the program, your child will know the basics of reading and math!

I wish BK would get some discounts going with JG with the affiliate program!

Are there any other suitable math programs out there for an almost 2 year old?

[waterdreamer]

Math U See primer is designed for kindergarteners. I agree the blocks are small for young children and could be choking hazards, which is why I only do math with my son in the evenings when my daycare babies are gone. We started this program when he was 4 years 10months old, I could have proabley introduced it at 4years old and did one page a day, but now the program seems very easy for him and like I said we do 2-3 pAges a day.
I think it's a very good program, I'm not switching programs because Math U See is bad in any way, only because Jones Geniuses seems to be a better fit to my ideas how children learn. And I like that after the first year kids have learned basic math, something that takes kids in public school YEARS to learn.

[DrPrimo]

hi waterdreamer!
she loves both math and phonics time with dr. jones' materials... it comes with directions AND manipulatives.  we are doing them on conjunction with our leap frog videos, LR and the dolch sight words videos.  he also recommends the teach your child to read in 100 lessons.  i am starting that when i get home from my travels in a few weeks.  i find it comforting to have both a phonics program and sight reading program.  i feel like i'm getting the best of both worlds.  she is just 17 months and knows her alphabet and short and long vowels and combinations, etc. because of dr. jones.  and then with the phonics from leap frog... a winning combination!!


i'm also looking into another program called visual primer.
http://www.visualprimer.com/

they just came down in price and they also have languages and a FABULOUS math program which if they get enough orders will come down in price as well.  totally different than anything on the market. after talking to the guy who invented it (jo mamone) i'm going to try it.  it is not cheap, but i'll let everyone know how it goes. 
i was most impressed with the math program because it has advanced levels, so it doesn't stop after basic mathematics... how great, right?  but he says you have to get the reading down before you start the math program.  he is a nice guy as well, but he is in australia and doesn't always get to his email right away.
anyway, i will keep all of you up to date on our progress.
take care!
the doc

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