Phonics vs. Sight Reading

[PokerDad]

Mandaplus3,

I can't recall the authors I've read, but merely the substance. There was a hypothesis put forward that many dyslexics "read" by memory, and the hypothesis in particular was that there was a threshold and when crossed, would indicate dyslexia. It seemed like a plausible argument, but under-developed, IMO. I'm sure I came across this whole line of reasoning sifting through old BrillKids threads. The gist of the argument is that if a person "learns" enough sight words, they become hardwired to read by memorization. In particular, the test I remember in one paper as to this threshold was how proficient a child was with a list of sight words... the faster more proficient were the ones that had crossed the threshold. Does anyone remember this discussion or the papers/articles associated with it?... I think if the two are done simultaneously, it would obviate any potential pitfalls.

Flesch himself goes on at length about some of this sort of thinking (sight words CAUSING dyslexia) - and I can agree that a percentage of the time this relationship holds, but I doubt it explains the entire spectrum of observed instances.

[Kimba15]

I am using whole words and phonics from the start with my 2nd which i did not do with my first. I use LR/YBCR (YBCR to a lesser degree this time) and Reading bear and I think my littlest dd has mastered reading much more quickly the the older one did.Why there are environmental factors at play (dd2 does see dd1 reading to me and doing spelling) It suprises me how much my dd2 knows she regularly points out letters and will say the sound she worked out today the word wry in a book without any help read her first reader and she is 18months my eldest dd while she new all of her letters she did not do her first reader until she was 21months.

from my own observations I believe the combination of both from the beginning has helped my dd2 get to reading faster than my dd1. My dd1 has not really received a huge amount of phonics training and she is an excellent speller with about 98-99% accuracy rate on spelling and dictation.    You can still have a great speller without a huge amount (I did do some) phonics training.

[TeachingMyToddlers]

I exposed my kids to both WW & phonics. With my daughter, we included phonics workbooks from Hooked on Phonics from about 2.5 onward. She was reading basically from the whole word methods but I wasn't 100% on "trusting it" so I was *looking* for holes in her phonics. It helps curb the word guessing a certain amount and the reading practice improved her stamina, but overall she already knew the words I was asking her to read. WW got the job done just fine, I had nothing to worry about, but she really enjoying it and begged to do the workbooks so we did.

With my son, I just started earlier and while he was exposed to some phonics on random videos, but primarily he learned through LR. He has never done a workbook a day in his life but can outread DD age for age in terms of decoding (not for stamina though.) He correctly read the word "crochet" in LMs around age two if I remember correctly, and I remember being surprised because he randomly read it off the screen and had never heard it spoken. My husband would write out words like "Champion," some silent E words, and multi-syllable words with tricky letters, he would get them right 90% of the time or more. There was no drill in asking him to read constantly, just exposure of LR or me reading TO him, and now he can decode whatever I put in front of him. With my daughter, she is a very strong reader but as the words got trickier/longer, her skills built up over time iln a more natural, expected pace (in terms of very early  literacy anyway). Versus with my son, it was just "poof!" he can read everything.

So, whatever that adds to the conversation, that has been our experience. Starting earlier was key I believe to more intuitive decoding, regardless of the words chosen and method used.

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