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« on: March 13, 2011, 04:49:23 PM »

I'm so discouraged and frustrated.  I might have my son retained in the 2nd grade.  At the moment I can't imagine any accommodation that will enable him to go onto 3rd grade successfully.  He has an aid essentially by his side all day and he is still not succeeding in 2nd grade.  Also he gets special ed for math and reading, physical therapy, language therapy, and occupational therapy.  Amongst other problems, my son has severe attention deficit without hyperactivity.  He walks around in a complete fog all day and can't even get to his classroom or on the right bus without assistance.

Today I'm fantasizing about neurofeedback but I am nervous that maybe these centers are just money pits for desperate parents like me.    Does anyone have knowledge of neurofeedback being used successfully for attention issues?  Not sure if I can even afford it because I'm sure it isn't covered by insurance.

My son is going to hate me if I have him retained but I'm afraid it will be even worse if I just keep allowing social promotion.  He never mastered even all of the material from kindergarten.  It appears that he does bits and pieces from the second grade curriculum, and his aid helps him just copy in the info for everything he doesn't know.  Of course the school presents it differently but I'm not blind and it is impossible for my son to have completed the work that comes home.  I don't think this parallel curriculum has served him well.

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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2011, 06:12:23 PM »

Oh, Lori,

I have no information to help you.  I guess I'm just writing to say sorry to you.  As a former classroom teacher I know that this happens way too often and I wish my "sorry" was more than a word.  I wish I could translate it into help for you.  I hope that by you posting this thread someone will read it and have some helpful insight for you.  Until then, I hope that you will stay strong and continue fighting tooth and nail for your son - he is well worth the energy (and lack of sleep!)!!!


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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2011, 11:56:33 PM »

Hi Lori,

I just wanted to offer my prayers and encouragement. I hope you can come to a good solution for your son!


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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2011, 12:46:56 AM »

Lori,

So sorry. I just wanted to mention that I observed some success with neurofeedback , in a way of determining the causes of concern that body will communicate to the program ( don't know the proper terminology how it is described by the specialist who do that), and then the program determines how to stimulate certain areas of nervous system, etc. I saw some success with in a diagnosing deficiencies or physical problems, so may be it is worth trying. I will definitely pray for you and please know that you have support from us here.

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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 02:39:08 AM »

Hi there Lori,

It sounds beyond frustrating for you.  The first thing that came to my mind, when reading your dilemma, is what is his nutritional program?  Because if he is on a high-carbohydrate diet with little protein, it will put him in a fog and it will be impossible to focus!  He needs balanced meals with moderate amounts of protein relative to healthy carbs and healthy fats, coupled with ultra-refined fish oil.  

I personally follow, along my feeding my daughters, according to Dr. Barry Sears, "The Zone" nutritional program and we all take the Omega Rx.  And my daughters have always had a very high attention span for their age and stay on task better than their peers, masha'Allah; according to their teachers. 

I would encourage you to try it and see how it goes for at least a month:

http://www.drsears.com/tabId/399/itemId/9287/Attention-Deficit-Disorder--children.aspx

http://www.drsears.com/tabId/399/itemId/9418/TV-may-not-cause-kids-attention-disorders-study.aspx

http://www.drsears.com/tabId/399/itemId/10575/Brain-chemical-has-key-role-in-ADHD-studies.aspx

http://www.zonehealth.com/zh/Home

This book explains in general the science behind it:
http://shop.zonehealth.com/product/detail/407.aspx

And if there also behavioral issues, this is a great system for both parents and teachers, by a clincial child psychologist, specializing in ADD/ADHD:
http://www.parentmagic.com/
http://www.parentmagic.com/aboutus-view.cfm

Let us know how it goes!
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2011, 03:03:18 AM »

Ayesha Nicole-

I have heard recommend the 123 Magic Series before and now you are recommending it too. I am always looking for new parenting tips to add to my "bag of tricks."  I just looked and my library carries this so I am reserving it now. Thanks for the recommendation!

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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 03:30:05 AM »

I’m so sorry you and your family are struggling with this.  I have no info about neurofeedback, but it sounds expensive and there may be other options worth exploring as well.  My first thought was have you tried modifying his diet to avoid allergens and additives.  Especially if he is showing other symptoms such as repertory, gastroenterological and/or dermal reactions (or if these conditions are familial.)  A quick google search turned up this article to start. http://www.allergysmarts.com/food-intolerance-new-letters/food-intolerance-your-child.html


Another thought was maybe the diagnosis needs reconsideration if traditional therapy isn’t working.  I haven’t read the book but have heard The Mislabeled Child by B & F Eide has really helped parents find therapy that is the right fit for their child.



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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 03:55:16 AM »

I would definitely second Twinenergy's recommendation : "My first thought was have you tried modifying his diet to avoid allergens and additives." It can make a world of difference.

Oh, and I would probably do that first before considering biofeedback, as you are right, it can be pretty costly.

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 02:06:16 PM »

I totally agree with the nutriention suggestions. Sometimes when children cannot digest products like dairy or gluten they get into a fog. Some people describe it like being on opeium.
Perhaps you could find a good naturopathic doctor to help you detox his little body. If there is one who specializes in the DAN! protocol even better. While he may not be autistic, ADD is part of the ASD classification and can truly benefit from treatment. Since we have started out protocol a month ago we have seen amazing changes in my 5 year old.
Best wishes and stay strong!

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2011, 05:33:32 AM »

It is so hard to get my son to eat anything at all.  I've thought of diet change.  I buy organic fruit and veggies, and during the growing season we belong to a CSA.  However we let my son eat whatever he will within reason.  He will eat normal kid stuff - chicken nuggets, fishsticks, yogurt, pizza, etc.  He does eat a lot of fruit.  He also eats shredded wheat, oatmeal, pop tarts, and waffles.  He loves milk and yogurt drinks.  Except the fruit, his whole diet probably contains milk or gluten.  Food textures used to make him gag.  We got in the habit of letting him eat what he could and we supplemented with yogurt drinks.  When he is stressed he will sometimes refuse to eat anything and will only drink yogurt.  Now he is under so much stress that I don't know if I have the strength to enforce a drastic diet change. 

About the behavior, he is very well behaved.  He is dreamy and inattentive.  Otherwise he is very sweet and compliant.  We worry about him being too passive.  Kids sometimes notice this weakness and pick on him. 

Thanks for all the ideas and support.  But I don't know if I can even take in all the ideas right now.  I contacted an advocate to work on my behalf with the school system and I'm feeling overwhelmed by it all.  The reality of going against the child study team recommendations is stressful.  But again thanks everyone the support here is wonderful.

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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2011, 05:09:41 PM »

Have you read this thread? http://forum.brillkids.com/coffee-corner/eliminating-dairy-products/msg8946/#msg8946

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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 02:41:35 AM »

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Hi.  I have 2 kids ( ages 8 and almost 4).  My eldest has multiple issues - he has a learning disability, ADHD, a tic disorder, language recall issues, gross and fine motor deficits.  Sometimes we worry that he might be developing tourette's disorder because he locks himself in the bathroom to make odd noises.  Unlike the typical kid with ADHD, he is usually good at controlling his impulses and is extremely well behaved.  He isn't on any medicine and learning is a challenge for him.  Despite it all, he is an intellectual kid.  He loves science, documentaries, and books.  He is between 1.5 to 2 yrs behind his peers in reading, math, writing, and physical skills.  This forum gives me hope because it has convinced that anything is possible in terms of encouraging brain development.
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Has anyone ever evaluated your son for Sensory Processing Disorder?  It is often comorbid with ADD and would explain the odd noises, gross/fine motor deficits, picky eating habits, inattentiveness.  My son's OT recommends the book "The Out-of-Sync Child" as a good place to learn more about SPD.  This is also a good website and has a symptoms checklist.

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 05:59:01 AM »

I don't know about neurofeedback, but have you looked into neurodevelopmental therapy?  I've heard lots of success stories with it.

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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 11:51:15 AM »

The sensory processing disorder is an interesting thought.  He has a cousin who was dx'd with it.  Also on the playground, we met a child a lot like my son who was dx'd with sensory processing.  The played well together and I didn't feel like I had to make excuses for my son playing so loud and clumsy.  The other boy was too loud and clumsy too.  My son occasionally still makes me cut the tags off of his shirts although most kids have outgrown this behavior.  He does a few other odd things.  He likes to ride his bike with his eyes closed.  I have to threaten that we will ground him from using his bike if he doesn't keep his eyes open.  He says it feels good.  I'll have to give this some thought and investigation.

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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2011, 04:08:54 PM »

The first thing I thought of when I read your post, Lori, was the book Boys Adrift.  Have you seen it?  See especially the section about ADHD.  Was he like this before starting school?  Is he like this toward the end of summer?

If not, then as a homeschooler, I can't help but wonder if you'd do much better with him at home.  Maybe not, but if you're in a position where you can try it (of course, you might not be), maybe you should.

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