HI Angie,
Well At IAHP (Doman Institutes) they adviced me to start advance math with small numbers; They discouraged me from the dots, with good reason as there is so much more to learn in math than dots. My daughter already knew how to count and identified the numbers to maybe 50 not sure, so doing dots at this point is very very challenging as they find them boring and their first move is towards counting them.
I am a woman of faith so I did Doman anyway and did it as exciting as possible and as fast as possible; Right Brain training ( WINK program) helped me a lot to better understand how to extend the "right brain period" and in that way she was able to get the training while feeling good about it; I wish LM would have been available then!!! as I believe this program is excellent to help older kids keep engage.
Well my daughter will probably never do instant math but I am sure it has helped more than I realize, I noticed for example when we play observation games (which we do all the time, while walking at the mall checking windows, while driving checking out cars, while reading a book (I select the books that I use for this very well following RB tips) and for example I read a page and ask her to look at the pictures for 10 seconds and then I turned and I ask her questions like how many people (easy warm up), how many females, what were they wearing, and start getting to small details little by little, ... the other day we had a clown and she was able to tell me how many stripes he had in each sock and how many dots the neck boe tie had, how many flowers were in his hat and the color for each flower!! I almost faint !!
So somewhere somehow I believe in my heart that the dots helped and I am still doing this kind of training with LM (which I believe is a terrific program).
It is vital that whatever you do, you set up the kids to win - you are to celebrate if they get it right and tickle if they get it wrong, play anyway !! easy small steady steps - make it so easy so they always win and little by little they will be the ones asking you for more.
ok short answer - I do Doman and LM also I am using the books from
www.Criticalthinking.com which I absolutely reccomend to all of you, the mathematical reasoning series is my favorite, second the building perceptual skills and Mind Benders as well- I also use Singapore Math.
http://www.criticalthinking.com/searchByNeed.do?code=p&catalog2=p&categories=bs&subjects=m&gradeLevel=99&code2=p&catalog3=p&x=24&y=11http://www.singaporemath.com/Primary_Math_s/21.htmHope this helps !
Gloria