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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2009, 05:47:43 PM »

At a family party over the weekend our family members were telling how they had to wait hours in line for the shot, grandma wasn't able to get one because she wasn't high priority, and the 4 kids got different types of vaccines depending on their priority such as the nasal spray, the shot, etc.

My husband and I do vaccinate our child for measles, mumps, etc. But we have decided not to vaccinate for H1N1, mostly because we think its rediculously overhyped, and think some of the vaccines are more harmful than the virus itself.

Our family was kind of surprised when we said we weren't getting the shots, I said well if we die from it, then we die from it, but from what we've researched it seems like a mild virus and is being incredibly misdiagnosed, and we'd rather take our chances. I think it's insane that the media is causing people to panic.  People are waiting over night here to get vaccines, outside, in the cold. It's COLD here. They will get more sick from waiting outside in the cold than they would get from H1N1

I do feel bad when I hear of pregnant mothers and their babies dying from it, but I am curious to know how often this happens with the regular flu as well. Is it a higher # or are they only reporting H1N1 stats.


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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2009, 07:50:21 PM »

Here is some researched info about this, but for more, you can visit the link:

Facts about Flu Vaccinations, Risks, Pregnant Woman and Babies:

It is interesting to note that babies  respond poorly to either the seasonal flu vaccine or the H1N1 vaccine. One of the largest studies ever done, found that children below the age of 2 years received no protection at all from the seasonal flu vaccine.

 (The Cochrane Collaboration: Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews, 2006 (1). Article number CD004879. In this review that analyzed 51 studies involving more than 260,000 children and found that below age 2 years, the seasonal flu vaccine offered no protection and those older than 2 years, only 33 to 36% had protective antibody response. (See Neil Z. Miller. The Vaccine Safety Manuel for more information).

The recently completed study on the effectiveness of the new H1N1 vaccine reported by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease found that 75% of small children below age 35 months received no protection from the H1N1 vaccine and that 65% of children between the ages of 3 years and 9 years received no protection from the vaccine.

(NIH News: http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/newsreleases/2009/H1N1pedvax.htm.)

Initial Studies Show H1N1 NOT Dangerous or Highly Contagious

Once the pandemic had been declared, virologists tested the potency of this virus using a conventional method, that is, infecting ferrets with the virus. What they found was that the H1N1 virus was no more pathogenic than the ordinary seasonal flu, even though it did penetrate slightly deeper into the lungs. It in no way matched the pathogenecity of the 1917-1918 H1N1 virus.

It also did not infect other tissues, and especially important, it did not infect the brain.
Next, they wanted to test the ability of the virus to spread among the population. The results of their tests were conflicting, but the best evidence indicated that the virus did not spread to others very well. In fact, an unpublished study by the CDC found that when one member of a family contracted the H1N1 virus, other members of the family were infected only 10% of the time -- a very low communicability. We personally have been in contact with number of people who got ill during this season, light case of flu, some confirmed swine flu strain, all these sicknesses were 3-4 days of light flu symptoms. And we have not gotten sick.


This was later confirmed in a study of the experience of New York State, in which only 6.9% of the population contracted the virus, far below the 50% predicted by the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology

(2. Maines TR et al. Transmission and pathogenesis of swine-origin 2009 A(H1N1) influenza viruses in ferrets and mice. Science 2009;325: 484-487.
3. CDC report: http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/surveillance.htm. )

Flu Vaccine DOUBLES Risk of Getting H1N1

It is also important to view this in the face of the new unpublished Canadian study of 12 million people that found getting the seasonal flu vaccine, as recommended by the CDC and NIH, doubles one’s risk of developing the H1N1 infection. It would also make the infection much more serious.

Pediatric Flu Deaths by Year Made WORSE by Flu Vaccine
•   1999 -- - 29 deaths
•   2000 -- - 19 deaths
•   2001 -- - 13 deaths
•   2002 -- - 12 deaths
•   2003 -- - 90 deaths (Year of mass vaccinations of children under age 5 years)
•   2006 -- 78 deaths
•   2007 -- - 88 deaths
•   2008 – 116 deaths (40.9% vaccinated at age 6 months to 23 months)

(MMWR. Influenza Vaccination Coverage Among Children and Adults -- -United States, 2008 -- 09 Influenza Season. Oct 9, 2009/58 (39); 1091-1095.)

Parents should also keep in mind that this study, as well as the Australian/New Zealand Study found that childhood obesity played a major role in a child’s risk of being admitted to the ICU or dying. This is another dramatic demonstration as to the danger of obesity in children and that all parents should avoid MSG (all food-based excitotoxin additives), excess sugar and excess high glycemic carbohydrates in their children’s diets. This goes for pregnant moms as well.

Every Parent Needs to Know Other Vaccines INCREASE Risk of H1N1

One major factor being left out of all discussion of these vaccines, especially those for small children and babies, is the effect of other vaccinations on presently circulating viral infections such as the H1N1 variant virus. It is known that several of the vaccines are powerfully immune suppressing. For example, the measles, mumps and rubella virus are all immune suppressing, as seen with the MMR vaccine, a live virus vaccine.12, 13

This means that when a child receives the MMR vaccine, for about two to five weeks afterwards their immune system is suppressed, making them highly susceptible to catching viruses and bacterial infections circulating through the population. Very few mothers are ever told this, even though it is well accepted in the medical literature.

In fact, it is known that the Hib vaccine for haemophilus influenzae is an immune suppressing vaccine and that vaccinated children are at a higher risk of developing haemophilus influenzae meningitis for at least one week after receiving the vaccine.10,14 These small children receive both of these vaccines.

According to the vaccine schedule recommended by the CDC and used by most states, a child will receive their MMR vaccine and Hib vaccine at one year of age and both are immune suppressing.

At age 2 to 4 months, they will receive a Hib vaccine. Therefore at age 2 to 4 months, and again at age one year, they are at an extreme risk of serious infectious complications caused by vaccine-induced immune suppression. The New Zealand/Australian study found that the highest death in the young was from birth to age 12 months, the very time they were getting these immune-suppressing vaccines.6

The so-called healthy children and babies that have ended up in the hospital and have died may in fact be the victims of immune suppression caused by their routine childhood vaccines. We may never know because the medical elite will never record such data or conduct the necessary studies. Recall also that the seasonal flu vaccine, which is recommended for all babies 6 months to 35 months, is also immune suppressing because of the mercury-containing thimerosal in the vaccine.15

If parents allow their children to be vaccinated according to the CDC recommendations, that is 2 seasonal flu vaccines and 2 swine flu vaccines as well as a pneumococcal vaccine, that will increase the number of vaccines a child will have by age 6 years to 41. This amounts to an enormous amount of aluminum and mercury as well as intense brain inflammation triggered by vaccine-induced microglial activation.16

(12. Nanan R, et al. Measles virus infection causes transient depletion of activated T cells from peripheral circulation. J. Clinical Virology 1999; 12; 201-210.
13. Schneider-Schaulies J et al. Receptor interactions, tropism, and mechanisms involved in morbillivirus induced immunomodulation. Advances Virus Research 2008; 71: 173-205.
14. Mawas F et al. Suppression and modulation of cellular and humoral immune responses to Heaemophilus influenzae type B (HiB) conjugate vaccine in hib-diptheria-tetanus toxoids-acellular pertussis combination vaccines: a study in a rat model. J Infectious Diseases 2005; 191: 58-64.
15. Pollard KM, et al. Effects of mercury on the immune system. Metals and Ions in Biological Systems 1997; 34: 421-440.
16. Blaylock RL and Strunecka A. Immune-glutamatergic dysfunction as a central mechanism of the autism spectrum disorders. Current Medicinal Chemistry 2009; 16: 157-170.)

These are just most important snippets of info, for more, you can check the link

http://products.mercola.com/swine-flu/20091103.htm

I had to study it not just as a parent, but also as a person who works with mothers and newborn babies, so thought to share it with those who are interested... Hope it helps. And in the long run, after informing ourselves, it is totally individual choice of parents what and how to do for the best of their children, not because someone told them what to do and what not to do!


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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2009, 07:28:31 PM »

INTERESTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again look at the information and make an informed decision for your family.

I wish I knew how to download video from youtube but here is the link.



http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/731.html


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