Perfect Pitch Videos

[Mandabplus3]

Oh wow! That is amazing! I had never thaught to even show this to my children, that notes in the songs can be "moved" on the piano or even just in singing solfege.... Well I guess that's from a lack of real musical training on my part.
I am sure one of my girls ( my middle one has the ear for this) will be able to hear this and understand it, and my oldest will be able to understand and then hear it ( hope that made sence) but the problem is I don't know how to teach it! How do I teach nursery rhymes in different keys? Hmmm I am off to google it
So how much longer do we have to wait for little musician? the more I see the more i think it will benefit more than just the little kids on this forum.
Oh I LOVE your multi colored hall runner  of solfege symbols. I wonder if I will get away with that here or if hubby will have a spack? Thanks again always an inspiration

[lois1]

Thanks Tmt for detailing all you did, that's fantastic. I can't wait to try out some of your ideas with my little guy. We are going to Canada shortly & I will be stocking up on all that Walmart has to offer

@mandabplus3 Teaching songs in different keys: pick a well known song e.g. twinkle twinkle. Get the music for it in C major (no sharps/ flats), then F major (1 flat), then Gmajor (1 sharp) etc. Then it's just a case of singing it back.

If you can sing at all, you can probably already do it if someone gives you the first note of whichever key they want you to sing it in - most people probably can.

But telling someone just to sing it in G major, or telling them to start on "So" takes perfect pitch.. like Lily  

[Mandabplus3]

Thanks for the guidence. I can match my pitch to the piano so I may get them to sing along with me to the piano. Tiana is developing perfect pitch from using soft Mozart. She is overall pretty lazy with her practice time so I am quite impressed she can already recognize at least 2 notes reliably. She will find this fun! I may find it a challenge 

[Dr Miles R Jones]

Great stuff here!  Music is not my speciality but I thought I might pass on something a music professor did for my daughter.  One of the first concepts in music is timing.  They speak of 3/4 time, 4/4 time etcetera.  The professor took very common and easily recognizable opening sequences of classical pieces that represented each of those timings. My daughter could not even read music at the time but was quickly able to memorize the timing that went with each piece.  It was so simple and so effective.  I am sure those of you who know music could explain it better than I.

[TeachingMyToddlers]

Great idea Dr. J., how old is your daughter now, I assume not a wee little one like most of ours?

I realized I missed this question:

How old were your two when you started doing this?

We started within a few weeks after LMs was released in beta testing, so July I think? That means she was about 2 years, 8 months I think. It took about 6 months or so, but it may have been sooner as  didn't test her all the time although I did gauge her progress from time to time.

Here's another video/song that we use sometimes, someone else shared it on the forum but I will repost it here. The kids know what the signs are when I show them but I'd like to teach them to become proficient at signing them automatically while signing, like second nature. We're not there yet.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/2nygpLfc4BA&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/2nygpLfc4BA&rel=1</a>

[lois1]

Dr Jones: That's a very good idea for teaching time signature. Was your daughter then able to go on & accurately identify the time signature in other pieces of music? If so that's defintely something for LMs.

TmT: You mentioned listening to nursery rhymes: I find I have to slow the tempo down a bit so that the notes being sung don't run into or over each other. Did you notice that too?

I tried the scrolling option but I got motion sickness watching the notes go from left to right.    I noticed on the soft mozart trial verion that the notes fall which might be more appealing to the eye.

KL had an abridged version of hand signals on another thread using body parts. This video though makes the Curwen signs seem pretty accessible to even little ones; better they learn the main or commonest system right from the start than having to go and teach them an alternative when they are older.

Apart from the great fun I have with my little guy, the best thing about EL is how much I'm learning myself   

[TeachingMyToddlers]

I think that may have more to do with the processing speed of your computer, we often speed up the songs by the children's request.

[lois1]

I wondered about that, but my laptop isn't that old. I'll look into it a bit more. Thanks! Lois

[TeachingMyToddlers]

I was able to catch her this morning playing Mary Had a Little Lamb with her eyes semi-closed. She learned it in the default setting on LMs but figured out this version on her own. I think it's correct? I know next to nothing about music!  If not, it's still close enough for me to clearly see her progress!
Excuse Owen being loud in the background, but I wanted to capture the moment anyway.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/RUa8HKCdwc8&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/RUa8HKCdwc8&rel=1</a>

[lelask]

I think that was great too  . Very cute selfevaluation. Well done.

[lois1]

Well done Lily & well done Mummy, that WAS great.

What music class options do you have for her where you live? Would you want to put her into formal teaching at this stage, are you considering other instruments? You would want a teacher who gets that learning is fun but who is prepared to challenge her even though she's little.

[TeachingMyToddlers]

Great question that I don't fully know the answer to just yet!  Right now for piano in lieu of lessons we are using soft mozart, although admittedly we are not following the lesson plans exactly and we are mostly using the gentle piano portion of it for the immediate feedback. The kids find some of the other games on it to be frustrating at times so I am following their lead and just sticking with the gentle piano game. We are considering in-person yamaha group classes for the fall. We attended their preview a month or two ago for the beginner's "music wonderland" level and it was very, very basic music appreciation with not nearly as much playing as I would have liked. For the time and money commitment, it wasn't worth it to me and I decided to wait until the next semester or two when she can skip straight to the next level based on her age to reconsider enrolling her.

She has done 2 or 3 semesters of pre-zuki, which is mostly an interactive mommy n me music appreciation with a violin emphasis. Originally, I thought she would be on a violin path (which is what I initially prepared her for), but we ended up buying the kids a keyboard last fall after they did so well learning with LMs. I bought specifically so they had another outlet to express their knowledge of solfege songs and she has taken to it like a duck to water. She plays so much for fun on her own accord, but when I ask her if she wants to play violin or piano, surprisingly she always says violin even though she has not been to her class since December. Her prezuki instructor told me to wait until the coming fall to start her on private lessons, which I will consider but the time/money commitment is significant for our family. At some point, she will have to choose what she wants to pursue or she can opt to use piano software at home and take violin lessons if money permits. The thing I love about the kids learning to play piano is that we don't have to rent or buy new instruments all the time as the kids grow. Plus, we move frequently for my husbands job and I know it will be easier for us to source an English speaking piano teacher rather than a violin teacher when we move overseas and such.

So to answer, yes we are considering private or group lessons of some sort soon, as time, money, and interest permits, but have not yet figured out the details.

[Mandabplus3]

Interesting to hear your thaughts on having lessons. I am sort of in the same pickle. Although the private piano lessons my girls get from school are aimed at their level I find that their level when using soft Mozart is much much higher than their level using those horid, boring method books they use at school. plus they don't enjoy practicing their school piano homework but love practicing their soft Mozart songs. I wonder if it is worth sending them at all.  I would LOVE for the school to switch to soft Mozart but can't see it in the near future. So I am considering switching my oldest girl to guitar lessons through school and continuing with soft Mozart at home. My 6 year old ideally needs a group music class for pitch and theory training,  but a bit above beginners...which just doesn't exist here for her age group    Her second choice is flute but she is really too young. Flute takes strength which she has and size which she doesn't quite have. I could get her a bent head ( the flute equivalent of a smaller violin) but they are over $600 and I still need to buy the flute as well! Ouch!
I understand the financial issue it certainly adds up very quickly in music and instrumental lessons.
I think I will continue with softmozart at home, piano at school for another few months, and prey that little musician turns out soon enough that my kids can play with it before they are beyond most of it. Soft Mozart is great but I just want " something" else for the theory. Something fun and interactive....

[ShenLi]

Thanks for sharing Lily - truly inspiring what you have achieved with your children! My younger son seems more musically inclined but so far I haven't done much beyond the tuning forks from TweedleWink and a bit of dabbling with LMs. I was sort of waiting for the release of the curriculum but you've convinced me that I should just go ahead without the curriculum!

Loved the idea with the balls! Just brilliant!

[aangeles]

TmT,

Is it worth it to get the WHAP book "Education for Absolute Pitch?" I am more interested in the musical games to teach PP rather than piano technique.

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