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« on: April 09, 2011, 12:24:10 AM »

I have been looking to differentes products for babies or children to learn Chinese and will like to here your opinion before making a mayor investment.

So far i have been looking into:
Baby Learns Chinese
Wink to learn Chinese
Little Pim Chinese
Muzzy Chinese
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LR Chinese curriculum.

Please if you have been using any of this products and can contrast between any two of them i will appreciate your comments.
Also emphisize if it is for a certain age.
Thanks in advance for sharing


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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2011, 07:39:23 PM »

Ella started watching Baby Learns Chinese at 9 months (but you can certainly start earlier if you want). The BLC videos are multisensory videos much like YBCR. The videos flash the Chinese words followed by pictures and/or videos of the meaning of the words and are great for introducing Chinese words and sounds to babies. There are also two songs within each lesson that use the vocabulary taught in that lesson. Ella learned to read her first Chinese words using these videos. You have the option of choosing between Simplified and Traditional Chinese.

The Wink to Learn DVDs are also videos for teaching Chinese vocabulary and reading but are more right brain than BLC. The pictures are flashed quickly followed by the Chinese words in true Doman style. There are 6 volumes of Chinese and the latter 2 cover couplets and sentences. Thus, the WTL videos cover much more vocabulary and progress to phrase and sentence construction. If your baby likes flashcards and right brain methods, these videos give better value for the money. But if you can afford it, I would get both BLC and WTL so that there is variety and reinforcement. I also have the Sing to Learn music videos which are a nice complement to the DVDs. The WTL DVDs can be viewed in either Simplified or Traditional Chinese as well.

I have checked out Little Pim but I don't use it to teach Chinese. (I do use Little Pim French and Spanish though). The reason is because for volumes 1-3, simplified characters are shown on-screen but for volumes 4-6, English Pin-Yin is used. For teaching Chinese, I would steer clear of showing Pin Yin to a child until he is reading phonetically and fluently in English. It may be confusing for them since the same letter has different letter sounds in English and Pin Yin, e.g. the letter "q" is pronounced like "k" in English but more like "ch" in Pin Yin. In addition, the Chinese language is particularly suited for teaching via the whole word approach because each character actually represents one word. And if the child learns to read Chinese via the whole word approach, he/she would actually be better off because he wouldn't need to rely on Pin Yin or Zhu Yin (another pronunciation guide used mostly in Taiwan) or any other crutches to read Chinese later on. Pin Yin would still be useful though for parents who don't speak Chinese, for typing/inputing text into the computer, and for looking up things in the dictionary, so I will still be teaching Ella Pin Yin but much later on - maybe when she is 5 or 6.

I have Muzzy Chinese but I also don't use it for Chinese. Ella watches Muzzy in French and Spanish but I have so many other better resources for teaching Chinese that I don't think she is missing anything by not watching Muzzy. Also, this is a cartoon with a fairly complicated plot and storyline that would probably be more suited to children 3 years and up.

As for LR Chinese, I don't think you can go wrong with it! I had downloaded the trial version and I think it is very well done. Ella liked the trial version a lot too! The only reason I did not buy the curriculum is because, by the time BK came out with LR Chinese, Ella was already reading very well in Chinese (sentences and short paragraphs). I was using the Wo Hui Du Chinese readers to teach her to read Chinese so I decided to just continue with them.

There is another program that I really like for learning Chinese called Qiao Hu (Smart Tiger). It is a program that you subscribe to and every month, they send you a DVD, a storybook/activity book, and an educational toy or audiobook or music CD with lyrics book. The DVD features the Smart Tiger character and children talking and singing in Chinese. It has several segments in the DVD each month - Science (teaching about a different animal every month), Math, Music and Movement, Storytime, Good Manners segment (like being polite, taking turns, saying I'm sorry, etc.), Good Habits segment (like eating your veggies, hand washing, brushing teeth, using the potty, etc.), and EQ segment. It comes in different levels for different ages and I subscribed to the 3-4 year old edition for Ella. They also have DVDs that focus solely on Math, Science, Chinese Poetry, or Chinese Language. It really helped Ella develop her grammar and conversational skills in Chinese.

And then, of course, once your grandchild is older, you can let her watch cartoons in Chinese. The ones I like are Winnie the Pooh, Elmo, Sesame Street, Big Mammoth series, Finding Nemo and other Disney cartoons, Anpanman, and Hayao Miyazake animation in Chinese. I typically don't let her watch Dora or Ni Hao Kai Lan in Chinese because I am using the immersion method for teaching her languages. I don't like using translations or having different languages within the same program as much as possible. And also, I only started letting her watch cartoons after she turned 2.

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2011, 02:04:53 AM »

Aangeles,

Qiaohu looks very interesting, how do you subscribe to it? Can you send me the link and is it traditional or simplified chinese?
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2011, 02:30:01 AM »

Yes, Qiao Hu sounds fun. My daughter has been very interested in Chinese lately. She's been enjoying the Chinese trial we have. I'd love to look into other things for her too since her interest is so high at the moment.

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2011, 04:12:00 AM »

Aangeles,
Your reviews enlighten me a lot. How i would like to have the means to get all of them.
Do yo speak mandarin?

I think i will have to learn some but find it so difficult...
I look for Qiao Hu and found a lot of examples in you tube. It is a good way to start listening to the conversation just to get used to the pronunciation.
One issue that troubles me a lot is that normally they do not ship to Peru or if they do, either it is very expensive or things get lost or we have to pay a lot to take it through customs.
Nevertherless it is good to know about those products and maybe there is a way of getting a POBox in florida.
I will certainly look into them.
Your review give me more insights and shows the differences among the varios options.


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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2011, 04:55:40 AM »

reei,

There are two different companies, one in Taiwan that uses Traditional Chinese and the other in Mainland China which publishes in Simplified. I subscribe to the Taiwan version because I am teaching Ella Traditional. Their customer service is excellent! Also, the Taiwan company ships overseas while the China one does not (not even to HK or Macau). Here is the link to their website: http://www.benesse.com.tw/kids/ You can see the whole year's curriculum for the 2-3 year olds here: http://www.benesse.com.tw/html/yoyo_2010.htm and for the 3-4 year olds here: http://www.benesse.com.tw/html/happy_2010.htm. They have different editions for kids 1-8 years old. The reason I like it so much is because the program not only teaches Chinese language and conversation but also values, EQ, good manners, and good habits. Ella has also learned a lot about Chinese culture which is important to me because we live in the US.

Tracy,

I'm sorry their website is entirely in Chinese but you can contact them in English and they will let you know how to go about subscribing if you're interested. Their email address is: [email protected]. I can also help you email them or translate some of the stuff on the website for you if you'd like - just send me a PM. Just to let you know, the monthly storybook/activity/sticker book is also in Chinese only and has some simple pasting/cutting that the parent has to do. But it is quite simple and self-explanatory so I don't think you'll have much difficulty even if you don't read/understand Chinese.

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 12:51:07 AM »

Thanks a lot aangele. Karma to you.

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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 11:39:17 AM »

Aangeles

Your post is a wealth of information thank you.  I am very interested in the Qiao Hu curriculum.  Can you tell me how much it is to subscribe please?

Keeli

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 01:20:13 AM »

Aangeles

Your post is a wealth of information thank you.  I am very interested in the Qiao Hu curriculum.  Can you tell me how much it is to subscribe please?

Keeli

Keeli,

I sent you a PM. Sorry for the delayed reply. I missed your post somehow and just happened to come across it today.

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 08:11:37 AM »

I am also interested. Would you please let me know how to subscribe it overseas and the price / postage to united states? Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 06:20:10 PM »

It is so sad we can't get the simplified version. I would love something that teaches more than words and simple sentences. Is there a lot of written words on the dvds etc?

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2011, 09:42:28 AM »

I am also interested. Would you please let me know how to subscribe it overseas and the price / postage to united states? Thanks in advance.

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I sent you a PM too.

It is so sad we can't get the simplified version. I would love something that teaches more than words and simple sentences. Is there a lot of written words on the dvds etc?

MummyRoo,

A few segments in the DVD have subtitles in Traditional Chinese (I think the Music and Movement, Science, and Poems/Rhymes segments) but it is not a reading program per se, so there are few written words on screen. However, the accompanying activity books, sticker book/math workbook, storybook, music book, and toys are all in Traditional Chinese.

I am using it mostly to expose Ella to conversational Chinese. There was a significant and very noticeable improvement in her Chinese vocabulary, grammar, and sentence construction after I started subscribing to the program. I would estimate that her Mandarin vocabulary and fluency is currently at the level of a 5-6 year-old child living in China or Taiwan. I am really quite happy with this as I was the only one speaking Mandarin to her for only a few hours a day after I come home from work.

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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2011, 10:30:04 PM »

We are very interested in having our 4 yr old attend a Chinese immersion grade school (he is currently fluent in Spanish and English) so I started showing him some Chinese videos on youtube to see his reaction. He absolutely loved the sounds of the language. After watching the Sing to Learn Chinese clips on you tube only a few times, he has started singing them around the house. I always wonder if he is saying the right words or making them up, so i secretly go watch the videos again and sure enough he is getting most of the words correct.  I decided to buy the set to start exposing him to the language before 1st grade\immersion program age. I hope he will watch them and learn from them. Please keep the Chinese learning suggestions coming.

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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2012, 07:52:38 AM »

You can check out Read With Me Mommy if you are interested to purchase Sing To Learn DVD. http://www.readwithmemommy.com/product_info.php?products_id=126

There are also popular storybooks that comes with DVDs for parents who are not able to read to their kids in chinese, for eg the Tao Shu (桃树)series. This series has very very nice illustration that will captivate your kids.
http://www.readwithmemommy.com/product_info.php?products_id=120

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2012, 10:40:52 PM »

Aangele,

Thank you for the info.  Your daughter has always been an inspiration since I started to join this forum a few months ago.  My daughter is just over 3 and I speak Cantonese to her at home and I just started LR Mandarin (traditional) about 2 months ago. She prefers speaking in English since everyone else around her does.  I am going to send her to a mixed-age Mandarin class for once a week (play based) with Daddy and hopefully she will be more interested in learning Chinese.  I saw your recommendation for Qiao Hu (Taiwan).  I tried to e-mail them earlier and had no response.  Could you PM me for more information on pricing and how it works?  Since she just started learning Chinese, do you think I should subscribe the 2-3 year-old edition?  Would you recommend me to use wink to learn in addition to LR?

Thanks so much in advance.

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