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« on: May 08, 2009, 06:50:32 PM »

I have been doing GD method for word and math for a couple months.(flash the paper card with no picture) My son is 2.5 years old and my daughter is now almost 8 month old. They are normal child.  My son recognize 0-10 since he was 1 year old (I mean he saw the letter and know it noit only counting) . He knew all ABC/since he was 1 year and 4 months(when he saw the letters he know what it is and what the sound of each letter-phonics)

My son was interested in my GD program  just only 2 weeks and then not interested at all. My daughter is not interested at all  since starting the program. I try to make it fun and do it when they are in the good mood.  What s wrong? One day, I stopped the program for a big while and then when we were back , it was the same.

Moreover, I found that they are not interested in books that much even we are reading to them everyday. (I am sure I and my husband read it with fun coz other kids still keep listening to our story except our own kids (they are a little bit older than our kids) ,especially my husband , he did really good as a storyteller.)

Teaching my kids is the thing I love to do and  looking forward to but seem they are not in the accept mode. Should I give up? Or this GD method just doesnt work with my kids? Can all kids learn the same way, if we teach them all the same thing??I am thinking about LM and LR. Does anyone failed with the typical GD method but success in LR/LM or any other methods?  This is really sad for me. I dont know what to do where to begin it again...

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2009, 06:59:00 PM »

My oldest (two) isn't always receptive. I also want to know if the Doman program doesn't work for everyone.

Have you done Doman with Little Reader or by using powerpoint presentations?

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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2009, 07:14:30 PM »

Joel is a lot more interested in the multimedia presentations than just the flashcards. I try to do both, but he always asks to see "Elephant, zebra, pig." He's also 2, and although he's enjoy LR alot, I have no idea what he's actually learning, since I don't test him...but I'm hopeful that as long as we're having fun, he's learning something.


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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2009, 07:17:16 PM »

My son is much more receptive to LR than paper flash cards. It is much more interesting for them, and you can flash pretty fast on the computer. You may want to try a multisensory approach instead of just flashing words.

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2009, 07:17:53 PM »

Hi ING can we have more details ....... can tell your not native english speaking .....

For your son 2.5 yrs old .... can start phonics ...... it will be easier ..... also can try YBCR DVDs .....

For the 8m .....

Actually need to know more, when i started we had problems too and queries .... and the typical qns they ask was did we use the irght size cards and words, did we follow the method etc etc ..... but its not al that hard and fast rules, ... but the fonts you use for the 8mth is quite different from the fonts you use for a 2.5yrs old ..... under 1 yr the fonts are like 2-3 inches, bright red ..... after 2 its reduced to 1 inch and in black etc .... of course they will always tell you oh you didn't do this or that or didn't follow as per accordingly .... some have to be followed others not need .....

but before can help need to know more
 like the materials you used .... etc ..., what else are you teaching .... , is she mobile etc ....

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2009, 07:28:37 PM »

ING for the 2.5 yrs old ..... i think he prefers TV or DVD ... so can get educational DVD YBCR etc .... your 8 mth old girl can use it when she is 10-12mths old too or she could be learning while brother watching ..... also can try monterssori ...activity based program ..... (no i am not montessori agent) .... i first heard about montessori some 20 yrs back .... and there is a montessori school down the lane in my other house in another country .... just sometimes boys are more active and they can learn thru play ..... and i did my research on montessorri way before i have my child .... was surprised not much people knew about it in this forum .... anyway they are mostly for 2.5 - 5 yr olds ..... and i did figure hey if GD method doens't work i can always try montesorri ... so don't despair ......

For the 8m girl ....  don't give up ...... yet .... hmm if you have spend loads on the cards ..... try again .... but with lesser cards and do it quickly .... it could also be the elder brother distrating her too .... anther method is to train the concentration power of the little one .... get a blue dot about 1 inch diameter and paste it in the middle of the large orange board .... and try to get her to focus ....

sorry think got to go sleep now .... been having 4-5 hours sleep a day for the last few weeks ..... excuse the rush up topic i didn't spell check them ....

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2009, 08:23:58 PM »

I use both manual flashcards and slideshows to teach my son. Powerpoint allows me to show the words and pics a lot faster which I think he prefers. I also don't follow the program as it says, but I have adjusted it to fit us smile 

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2009, 09:39:53 PM »

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Just one thing about the books, just make sure the books do not have too many words per page. My baby is younger than yours, but she definetly pays much more attention with book with a few wors per page in big letters.

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2009, 10:19:33 PM »

With the 8 month-old.. Try to adapt the program to her reaction. I believe Doman says somewhere that it is Ok to stop for a few weeks. I really would not keep on showing her if she turns her head away for example.
Or you can try (that's what I did) introducing encyclopedic knowledge while you stop with the words. My daughter loves it now. She's into peekaboo at the moment so I show her the word or picture, and sort of hide it behind me so she gets all excited and want to see it.

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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2009, 10:52:26 PM »

My son is 11 months old and I started reading with him when he was 9 months old. As he never sat still, I thought he would never be interested, but he was hooked within a couple of weeks.

At the begining he didn't seem interested, then I realised I had to go really fast and keep to 1 sentance per page to maintain his interest. Bright bold pictures or ones with textures, flaps or holes (!) are a hit. He also likes ones with (short) nursery rhymes. Also I always raise the corner of the next page so that when he gets bored he will just turn the page (in fact its his favourite thing to do). The idea is to get him as physically involved in the "reading" as possible as he is a very physical baby. A thing that I do now is to point at the words as I read (as part of my effort to teach him to read) so big clear text is important. Again when I first started the pointing, he didn't like it much but now he is used to it and seems to enjoy it.

With the DM method, I haven't read the entire book yet but somehow it seems more intuitive to me to show the flash cards with pictures of the words on the reverse, so I guess I didn't follow strictly the DM method which is to show words with no pictures? I just can't imagine my son being interested in just the words and I am talking about Chinese which already look rather more like pictures than English words do. And also surely I would want him to know what the words actually mean? I have been showing him single word flash cards since 3 weeks, in his high chair just before his meals and so far he seems to enjoy them. My biggest trouble is that he keeps wanting to grab them and gets very upset that I don't let him - anyone got tips on this?  smile

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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2009, 01:43:42 PM »

Hi betty ..... you can try giving him a spoon or something else to hold .... this way he won't want to to grab your card .....

There is also one more problem ..... if he can grab your card .... your showing it to him too close ..... it will create lazy eye movement problems .... if you do it too close and too many cards ...... i think there is a distance your supposed to maintain ..... 

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2009, 01:57:51 AM »

The YBCR sliding cards are fun because when you pull them apart a picture is revealed.  My daughter just turned 2 yrs old about 2 weeks ago.  We have been doing the YBCR program loosely for 6 weeks.  Half of the time, she is uncooperative so then we stop.  She likes their videos enough to maybe watch it once per day.  Again she is in the uncooperative "terrible twos" stage so many times she will refuse it.  I just try to do the program when I can without overwhelming myself or stressing her.  I think the Doman Method might involve more work for the parent.  My stuff came ready to use out of the box.  I just offer her the video twice per day - if she screams "No!" then I turn it off.  Three times a day I "try" to do flashcards.  I'm pretty disorganized about the flashcards.  I can't get into a rhythm, not sure how many I should do, or even at what speed.  I've worried about it but she still seems to be learning despite my disorganization.  Once again, if she is uncooperative, we stop.  Then there are also flap books.  There is a word on each page and the flap lifts to reveal a corresponding picture.  My daughter loves these books and looks at them with or without me several times per day.  Sometimes she won't share them with me so I am unable to tell her the words on the pages. I also have LR and downloaded the YBCR files.  She actually points to the computer and asks for them.  However sometimes she climbs off of my lap after just a couple of words, and again I just stop.  So anyway, it just isn't any harder then entertaining her with toys except for the flashcards.  I still have some stress because I feel like I should have more of an order and process for introducing and retiring flashcards.  Maybe the YBCR program would be easier for you and more entertaining for your kids.  Also it seems like your kids are learning because most 2.5 yrs old don't know their alphabet and phonics.  Your daughter is probably too young to demonstrate what she has learned.

Good Luck and Don't Give Up, Lori

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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2009, 07:48:10 AM »

I have a 12 month old daughter who loves her books. I mean that she will not touch any of her toys, she only wants her books. She will not do anything but bring her books to us (mummy and daddy) to read to her. If we have visitors over she will grab a book and bring it to them.

When she was 7-8months old she was completely NOT interested in books...we would try to read to her and she wouldnt look, it got very discouraging so I stopped reading to her and just played other games.

I only started reading to her again at about 10 months of age.

Now about the flash cards, I tried them and found that my daughter was mainly interested in them if they had a picture with them. I found LR to be a lot better as she would actually watch them all the way through and would actually get grumpy if I turned the lesson off. I found that she enjoyed watching the animal slideshows that had noise included with the pictures.

Dont give up, there are many other methods to teach your children with, just remember to enjoy your time with them as they are only little for so long smile



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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2009, 08:12:08 AM »

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My daughter is 14 months old and when she was younger she will like to look the books for babies, there are some books with baby faces, and baby pictures, babies love to see other babies faces, there are small books.
She likes the flascards also, but I made some flascards using asl, and she loved them(those were their first flashcards)in one side there is the sign and the other side is the picture with the name. You can get her attention with pictures, mom,dad, pet...something familiar.maybe you can try that. but in a different way, until she is used to flachacards and you go back to the program you are using.

For your older boy I will try the ybcr program, kids love tv, or computers...

One more thing ,I think boys and girls learn in different ways so you maybe should plan different activities for them.

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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2009, 09:55:09 AM »

Trinity Papa, thanks for the tips. I hadn't thought about the distance being too close, now that you mentioned, I should definately keep an eye on the distance!

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